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konduct

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Looking for ... I got it!
« on: November 02, 2006, 06:27:48 AM »
      I have been researching different attraction configurations for a mag motor.  Of  course, the sticky spot is the worst enemy of the attraction motor.  I am pretty sure I can effectively shield a flux field.  **(Let me rephrase, I have already effectively shielded flux with minimal resistance. :o)  What I am looking for is a static configuration that would not need moving parts other than the rotor of course.  Also, no external power.  Needs to be self running.  Post any suggestions.

ok... :-\

      All I can offer is the open source materials on any working replication as well as the opportunity to work further on research and dev.  I've already got about $1000 USD in small parts alone ready for this project.  Some of you have probably seen me lurking around here every day, waiting on that next little revelation to help put the pieces of this puzzle together.  Every possible minute I've had has been spent building, testing, revising, theorizing on a working motor configuration.  I'm not Part Time.  I run a major marketing firm in the US and plan to use it to help aid in the complete and proper implementation of the technology. I applaud those like Hartberlein and Jason O etc... for maintaining resourceful websites on this subject!

Just a side note...I don't want my name in history books, nobel prizes, etc...I just want the financial security for my family, as well as the overall worldwide benefits of a clean, abundant fuel.  I think we all just want to be able to go home at night and feel like we earned our living and left the world a better place than we found it at the same time, correct?

Any Ideas?  ???

     (I used to breed AKC Labrador Retrievers when I was younger.) I'm thinking of breeding two motors together and I'm pretty sure this is the one that will actually self run with considerable torque.  ;D  I've got enough hands on experiece with Neos and my shielding to "see" what's happening.  I think the problem with many initial concepts and theories is just a slightly skewed perspective of what they are actually dealing with.  It's kind of like a vehicle mechanic working on engines.  He may know everything about how a gasoline engine works...but that doesn't mean his knowledge will apply in the same way if he has to work on a diesel engine.  It's basically the same, but just a few differences in operation make all the difference in whether the engine will run.  Experiments with distance are also necessary for any magnet setup. Come on guys...we've come this far..."This, is a game of inches..."  Get those creative juices flowing.  I can get the investment money quickly...as soon as I've got a proof of principle model.



K~

Not sure why there hasn't even been one response.  70 views and not even one response?  That's pretty gay.  You guys will look at the same old ideas over and over, but god forbid anyone come up with something original!  I'm kind of glad.  I've always had to do things on my own anyway.  The temptation to share what I came up with in the past 48 hours is immense, however, I will spend tomorrow finishing my design rather than talking about it. (The neighbors don't appreciate my Ryobi router too much at night.) I also have three other possibilities that I think may work, but I am going with another one that seems to put out the most torque. I got all of the concepts that make up the motor from this and other sites though.  Good work guys.  Any ideas on naming it?  =)


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« Last Edit: November 04, 2006, 07:48:32 AM by konduct »


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Re: Looking for ... I got it!
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2006, 12:03:30 PM »
Why not post some pictures of your ideas and there are plenty of people on here that are willing to try them out.

You are asking others for designs on a static configuration and for them to post them in here, but in the same breath you are not willing to post your ideas?

If it is a commercial product that you want your ideas kept safe, then design and test it away from the public eye.
If it is going to be an open source project then post some ideas and you will probably find you will get some feedback.

Regards

Sean.



      I have been researching different attraction configurations for a mag motor.  Of  course, the sticky spot is the worst enemy of the attraction motor.  I am pretty sure I can effectively shield a flux field.  **(Let me rephrase, I have already effectively shielded flux with minimal resistance. :o)  What I am looking for is a static configuration that would not need moving parts other than the rotor of course.  Also, no external power.  Needs to be self running.  Post any suggestions.

ok... :-\

      All I can offer is the open source materials on any working replication as well as the opportunity to work further on research and dev.  I've already got about $1000 USD in small parts alone ready for this project.  Some of you have probably seen me lurking around here every day, waiting on that next little revelation to help put the pieces of this puzzle together.  Every possible minute I've had has been spent building, testing, revising, theorizing on a working motor configuration.  I'm not Part Time.  I run a major marketing firm in the US and plan to use it to help aid in the complete and proper implementation of the technology. I applaud those like Hartberlein and Jason O etc... for maintaining resourceful websites on this subject!

Just a side note...I don't want my name in history books, nobel prizes, etc...I just want the financial security for my family, as well as the overall worldwide benefits of a clean, abundant fuel.  I think we all just want to be able to go home at night and feel like we earned our living and left the world a better place than we found it at the same time, correct?

Any Ideas?  ???

     (I used to breed AKC Labrador Retrievers when I was younger.) I'm thinking of breeding two motors together and I'm pretty sure this is the one that will actually self run with considerable torque.  ;D  I've got enough hands on experiece with Neos and my shielding to "see" what's happening.  I think the problem with many initial concepts and theories is just a slightly skewed perspective of what they are actually dealing with.  It's kind of like a vehicle mechanic working on engines.  He may know everything about how a gasoline engine works...but that doesn't mean his knowledge will apply in the same way if he has to work on a diesel engine.  It's basically the same, but just a few differences in operation make all the difference in whether the engine will run.  Experiments with distance are also necessary for any magnet setup. Come on guys...we've come this far..."This, is a game of inches..."  Get those creative juices flowing.  I can get the investment money quickly...as soon as I've got a proof of principle model.



K~

Not sure why there hasn't even been one response.  70 views and not even one response?  That's pretty gay.  You guys will look at the same old ideas over and over, but god forbid anyone come up with something original!  I'm kind of glad.  I've always had to do things on my own anyway.  The temptation to share what I came up with in the past 48 hours is immense, however, I will spend tomorrow finishing my design rather than talking about it. (The neighbors don't appreciate my Ryobi router too much at night.) I also have three other possibilities that I think may work, but I am going with another one that seems to put out the most torque. I got all of the concepts that make up the motor from this and other sites though.  Good work guys.  Any ideas on naming it?  =)


.....!!!!!!!!!!Hahaaaaaaaaaa...I got it, I got it...I got it..........................


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Re: Looking for ... I got it!
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2006, 04:48:46 PM »
I will take a guess here, you have got it-a magnetic shield,but you cannot shield a magnetic field so you have redirected it like the steorn LEMA does. If you have I applaud your efforts, but you realize if you try to patent this your screwed, if you start a company your investors will probably gang  you, and like everyone else in the past 100 years you will end up penniless. But here's another option- full disclosure here on this site,at which point the impossible becomes possible regardless of what the scientific community believes, you then form a company based on known and proven technology,your technology and make a shwack of money and retire on a beach in mexico.
the perfect scenario ;D

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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2006, 04:56:32 PM »
Lunch break update.... The LEMA patent is nothing special and refers heavily to a "linear motion" as well as using Netic / Conetic material.  Any patents for my device wouldn't resemble, nor take claim to the LEMA...and I'm sure Steorn would sell or license the LEMA technology (If I needed it for something.) for the right price anyway.  No one gets screwed Canadian cuz everybody has a price! =) My investment consultants are lawyers for the biggest alternative energy firm in the world! 

And Sean, this will be a commercial product. I could give the "cure for cancer" to someone and there is a 99.999% probability that it won't make it to market!

I could show you guys how I did it, but all that would really do is start confusion and controversy when some ego decides it was "thier idea".  Quite frankly, the motor is a buch of other peoples' ideas.  I'm sure in about 10 years, after I've already made a boatload of money off of it, somebody will put two and two together and try and sue me.  But today...nobody cares but me.  Maybe I'll get lucky and nobody will actually realize, or care, how I did it.  The consumer just knows that it does what they need it to and how much it cost them! The real important thing is who developes and sells it, not who patents it!  Who can get a fuel-less generator systems into homes the fastest!  The damn thing markets itself!!!!!!!    Besides, I wouldn't have to go to court, the lawyers do.  Don't think I couldn't hide enough money to go "bankrupt".  (You think Kenneth Lay  (Enron) is actually dead or broke?)

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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2006, 06:02:17 PM »
Still not sure what answer you want from the these forums regards your discovery?

You have a method of shielding the magnetic field which will get past the sticky point, it is a commercial product that you are going to produce and make shed loads of money.

You are not going to release your findings here but you need input towards the design of the device maybe?
So what do you need from these public forums to help you to do this?

Regards

Sean.

Lunch break update.... The LEMA patent is nothing special and refers heavily to a "linear motion" as well as using Netic / Conetic material.  Any patents for my device wouldn't resemble, nor take claim to the LEMA...and I'm sure Steorn would sell or license the LEMA technology (If I needed it for something.) for the right price anyway.  No one gets screwed Canadian cuz everybody has a price! =) My investment consultants are lawyers for the biggest alternative energy firm in the world! 

And Sean, this will be a commercial product. I could give the "cure for cancer" to someone and there is a 99.999% probability that it won't make it to market!

I could show you guys how I did it, but all that would really do is start confusion and controversy when some ego decides it was "thier idea".  Quite frankly, the motor is a buch of other peoples' ideas.  I'm sure in about 10 years, after I've already made a boatload of money off of it, somebody will put two and two together and try and sue me.  But today...nobody cares but me.  Maybe I'll get lucky and nobody will actually realize, or care, how I did it.  The consumer just knows that it does what they need it to and how much it cost them! The real important thing is who developes and sells it, not who patents it!  Who can get a fuel-less generator systems into homes the fastest!  The damn thing markets itself!!!!!!!    Besides, I wouldn't have to go to court, the lawyers do.  Don't think I couldn't hide enough money to go "bankrupt".  (You think Kenneth Lay  (Enron) is actually dead or broke?)

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Re: Looking for ... I got it!
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2006, 06:18:41 PM »
Great you have come here with nothing to offer but your vanity and greed! you do realize tesla and some of the greatest minds on this planet have failed to market this technology not because of an outside influence but vanity. In the last 100 years no one person has succeeded but you will in your infinate wisdom. The truth is your wasting our time- you will end up next to a dumpster sucking a bottle of stale cooking sherry wearing a womans old matted fur coat to stay warm, wondering what the hell happened?, where it all went so terribly wrong?, What have I done?
Good luck

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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2006, 07:47:06 PM »
Hey Sean...Sorry to seem confusing, but I had edited my post from it's original version...I know you are personally working hard at these motors...I originally was looking to collect ideas from everyone for an attraction based motor using shielding.  I've seen diagrams scattered around, so I wanted to see if there was anything I missed before the first design / build.  Two days and not one person bothered to post anything?  Soooo...

Who's dedicated here?  Not a problem...but AllCanadian, you can stay off your high horse when you ask about me posting pictures when no one has posted a picture for me to look at in this post.   

Nobody took any time to share anything so I worked on it myself.  I've got a genius IQ and have tackled seemingly tougher challenges.  (Although this adventure has proven to be one of the more challenging ones!)  I have never been into anything like free energy or "overunity".  I didn't even know what overunity was 6 months ago!  Or care really!  But the thought of it...well...It's an undeniably useful technology!

How sir am I vain?  Vain is looking into a mirror and thinking how people will love me because of my accolmplishments.  Survival is not greed.  In this world you need money to survive, so wanting to earn money so you can survive comfortably is far from a sin.  I've lived well beneath my means for years and been a happier person than most. And quite frankly, I know how to handle my business. Thank you for your concern Canadian, but I don't need a magnet motor company to pay my bills ...I am quite warm now and can afford all the fresh liquor I could possibly drink!  With a successful product...I could pay my bills and then some!  The only money I've had to part with has gone towards parts for the prototype so I'm sure my fiscal future will remain sound enough.

Folks, this isn't a popularity contest...I'm not doing this to be cool or go down in history books...I don't care if you like me, think I'm a good person, or think I deserve to be successful.  I am looking to collaborate with like minded people, already hands on in this field because even after any successful prototype, there comes even more research and development!  I couldn't build the genset end I will need to save my life, but I bet someone here could!  I can make this thing run in circles, but I'm sure someone here knows how to make it faster, or more powerful!  Why not hire / pay folks that have been in on it since the early stages, rather than some kid, fresh out of college with a degree in Engineering?  There is no reason a profitable company can't be a grassroots operation.  Quit hating canadian...you're taking this way too personally! =) 
The first one is just the beginning!  I don't want to do everything myself!  I'm actually kind of lazy...only my obsessive compulsive personality keeps me balanced.

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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2006, 08:22:20 PM »
I should think any of the designs on these forums will work as most if not all of them eventually hit the sticky point.
If you have a way of shielding it with out spending more energy than produced and get over the sticky point, then you are on a winner.

I think alot of guys in here are in on this just for the satisfaction and not any commercial gains, so hence why you have had no replies.

For me personaly I make enough money using my skills in other areas of life and this is just another bit of fun that uses all the experience I have gained over the years making other things (electronic and mechanical).
Must admit if I do stumble upon anything that works then it will be released here for eveyone to enhance with their skills and will hopefully do the world some good, as it needs it right now!

But fair enough if you are taking the commercial angle, then good on you and I wish you luck.

I can see why allcanadian got wound up, because of the way you have worded some of your posts and also inmature remarks such as 'That's pretty gay' when you were not getting responses back that you expected.

You should see the angle that people will see you coming from, you are asking for designs and ideas that people have worked on, yet you want to keep the solution of the most vital problem that people have been working on for years to yourself. This is fair enough but by pushing it in peoples faces can wind them up, so if you get rebuff, expect it, thats human nature.

Again good luck and I will be the first to buy one of your commercial versions, so I can pull it apart and see how it works!.

Regards

Sean.


Hey Sean...Sorry to seem confusing, but I had edited my post from it's original version...I know you are personally working hard at these motors...I originally was looking to collect ideas from everyone for an attraction based motor using shielding.  I've seen diagrams scattered around, so I wanted to see if there was anything I missed before the first design / build.  Two days and not one person bothered to post anything?  Soooo...

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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2006, 08:35:07 PM »
I don't hate anyone, this is maybe my twisted way of making a point. No one has been able to do this in the last 100 years, to get working technology out. Everyone without exception has tried and failed, that is not to say you will fail, but your post implied you have it and will flaunt and tease us with it and offer nothing tangible we can work with. Do we deserve to know how you have succeeded? maybe not, but we are here trying to help one another and I think everyone here just wants to personally see a working machine, thats it. I just heard on the news all fisheries will permanently collapse within 40 years, the ph of the oceans are rising, if we cannot substantially reduce CO2 levels within 10 years we are poached it will not matter. It just goes on and on, and everyone I know is completely stressed out about this, it's all going down the shitter in my lifetime and what about my two children what will they have to deal with. If you think Im uptight, really you have no idea! We need solutions now-not later, Im here as an engineer to help anyone I can succeed, I ask nothing in return except that the technology gets out sooner rather than later. Because later is too late, it will not matter, it will mean nothing, every shread of research I have done say's what happens in the next 10 years will dictate our fate. So here we are, do we work together with a common cause,honestly and transparently or boast of things we cannot prove and what might have been?

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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2006, 09:26:41 PM »
this forum site is a bit different from others, here we don't fuck around! either it's open source technology or take it to another forum site. people are tired of investing money on empty claims it's that simple. good luck.

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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2006, 09:56:29 PM »
lol...don't need investment money...just looking for brains here...

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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2006, 10:01:46 PM »
ok then people are tired of investing energy on empty claims it's that simple.  ;)

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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2006, 11:42:04 PM »
dude ... put up or shut up ... open source it.   Our brains are not yours to mess with!


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« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2006, 01:30:50 AM »
hey guys,

has anyone checked out "free energy's" site?  well let me rephrase. have you looked at the site by free energy?  i think it is the best!!! if you want to prove overunity.  i have seen alot of stupid ideas but, if you think about playing with "HOTWHEELS", when yiu were a kid, all you have to do is put a verticle loop at the end of the track.

i guess that you wanted videos, but just think of those hotwheels cars running through the loop.  maybe you had the "johnny lightning set"  with the little wheele house that shot the cars through.  which ever this seems alot better to me.

all you have to do is put a track off the end and put a verticle loop in the track bringing it back to the magnetic accelerator. BAMM!!!!! THERE YOU HAVE IT!!!!!!

lol
sam