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Title: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 03, 2016, 06:09:51 AM
I have an idea based upon Tom Beardens overunity circuit with my additional  gravity concepts added to his circuit, using 40 years of research notes and information gleaned from 39,500+ books of every subject and discipline. My input may give you information you may have never heard of even with your experience using measuring equipment. I am fluent and cognizant in all of physics and metaphysics.

The MetaQEG deliberately bypasses all (e) electric, (m) magnetic and backEMF problems using the counterwound coils and accesses the third force, gravity, which is not in the 3rd dimension.

Im giving you, TinselKoala, permission to work with this MetaQEG PDF (pages 1-3) and build a circuit according to its design and with my additional, ongoing input, all documented here on this thread for all to see, so we have a record.

I cannot build seeing I have no measuring equipment nor a home that allows such projects. You will be building it with my permission and I will be the holder of the copyright of the written posts and pdf material. We will share equally, any prize monies from OverUnity.com resulting from your successful building of the MetaQEG and it will give you a chance to claim the MetaQEG does not work, if you fail to build three working models, two of which shall be delivered to J. Naudin for testing according to OverUnity.com policy and protocol.

The two coils are caduceus coils which, Ive noticed, only you are familiar with, so you will have no major problem in construction of them, on 2 rings of 8 inch diameter styrofoam, 1 1/2 inch thick. You can get about 4 turns on this core on one go around, keeping all dual windings at 90 degree crossings. Use as much wire windings as you wish to.

Remember, to criticize, before through research, is the height of stupidity.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: conradelektro on April 04, 2016, 01:58:16 PM
.............................
, using 40 years of research notes and information gleaned from 39,500+ books of every subject and discipline. My input may give you information you may have never heard of even with your experience using measuring equipment. I am fluent and cognizant in all of physics and metaphysics.
.............................
Remember, to criticize, before through research, is the height of stupidity.

The hight of what is this?

Because you are fluent and cognizant in all of physics and metaphysics, you should have been able to draw a conclusion after 40 years.

I guess you read the wrong books and research notes. If you are lucky, you have an other 40 years to get it right.

Greetings, Conrad

P.S.: Sorry for the sarcastic comments, but the temptation was just to great. You are the first one claiming to be  fluent and cognizant in all of physics and metaphysics. Counting 8 hours reading time per book, 40.000 books means about 37 years of reading (straight through, no breaks). A most strange claim as well.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: tinman on April 04, 2016, 02:48:19 PM
I have an idea based upon Tom Beardens overunity circuit

Well you have failed before you even began,as Tom Bearden never had an overunity circuit. ::)


Brad
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 04, 2016, 02:59:38 PM
Get off my thread, presumptuous assholes.

And it was 6 books a day for about 18 years....
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: memoryman on April 04, 2016, 03:53:36 PM
Name calling is the result of reading all these books?
"I have an idea based upon Tom Beardens overunity circuit.
Well you have failed before you even began,as Tom Bearden never had an overunity circuit. ::)
Brad"
Of course, neither did anyone else...
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Pirate88179 on April 04, 2016, 10:52:19 PM
I have an idea based upon Tom Beardens overunity circuit

Well you have failed before you even began,as Tom Bearden never had an overunity circuit. ::)


Brad

100% correct.
 
Bill
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: TinselKoala on April 05, 2016, 04:58:21 AM
I have an idea based upon Tom Beardens overunity circuit with my additional  gravity concepts added to his circuit, using 40 years of research notes and information gleaned from 39,500+ books of every subject and discipline. My input may give you information you may have never heard of even with your experience using measuring equipment. I am fluent and cognizant in all of physics and metaphysics.

The MetaQEG deliberately bypasses all (e) electric, (m) magnetic and backEMF problems using the counterwound coils and accesses the third force, gravity, which is not in the 3rd dimension.

Im giving you, TinselKoala, permission to work with this MetaQEG PDF (pages 1-3) and build a circuit according to its design and with my additional, ongoing input, all documented here on this thread for all to see, so we have a record.

I cannot build seeing I have no measuring equipment nor a home that allows such projects. You will be building it with my permission and I will be the holder of the copyright of the written posts and pdf material. We will share equally, any prize monies from OverUnity.com resulting from your successful building of the MetaQEG and it will give you a chance to claim the MetaQEG does not work, if you fail to build three working models, two of which shall be delivered to J. Naudin for testing according to OverUnity.com policy and protocol.

The two coils are caduceus coils which, Ive noticed, only you are familiar with, so you will have no major problem in construction of them, on 2 rings of 8 inch diameter styrofoam, 1 1/2 inch thick. You can get about 4 turns on this core on one go around, keeping all dual windings at 90 degree crossings. Use as much wire windings as you wish to.

Remember, to criticize, before through research, is the height of stupidity.

I am afraid there is nothing I can do to help you. You are clearly reaching far beyond anything I might be capable of.

Quote
Incorporated in the switch are the two single pole/double throw switches. This one Fast Switch chip
must be rated at the Relaxation time of the electron. This is far faster than 1ms as designated. It should be in the GHz or
nano/picosecond range.

There are a few other problems I can see in your pdf, but it's not necessary for me to go into them here. You should have your idea reviewed by someone more "fluent and cognizant" in physics and metaphysics. Maybe you can get TheoriaApophasis to help you; he's the only one I know of that might have the right qualifications.

Thanks for your... er... "offer" anyway, and good luck.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: ARMCORTEX on April 05, 2016, 05:13:59 AM
An invitation that goes like this: Tinselkoala will build things and I will broom the lab, split 50/50, deal?
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: AlienGrey on April 05, 2016, 10:25:55 AM
Strange ainit how things keep repeating on the QEG negative equity disposal? How many times can salesman reinvent them self ?
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 05, 2016, 12:09:08 PM
I am afraid there is nothing I can do to help you. You are clearly reaching far beyond anything I might be capable of.

omitted

Thanks for your... er... "offer" anyway, and good luck.

Re: TinselKoala

Come on Sir,

I dont bite unless you turn tail and make outrageous claims why you can't do it. You're very close to what this project is about, anyway. I can almost see the gravity beam in the center axis of the caduseus tube affecting the radio in the Faraday cage, instantly....you just have to bend the tube into a ring, a toroidal ring, and you will have captured the gravity beam running in the axis of the ring just like in the centers of Leedskalnin's motor or the Ankh (PMH).....you're gonna head in that direction anyway, you know. Once the ring is formed, you will have a gravity field of potential around the ring, or the dual rings in the case of the MetaQEG, which nothing can stop, in its communication with loads or with another dual, toroidal coil/gravity receiver. Please reconsider before I go through the lenghty process of trying to contact TheoriaApophasis.

PS, Dont look down the axis of the caduseus tube beam...one tube end beam is death, the other end is life.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: minnie on April 05, 2016, 02:37:56 PM



 Meta,
       why not try asking UFO Politics? He's made a video supporting Theoria, trouble
 is the title includes "magnetic particles" and Theo adamantly denies the existence of
 particles.
    If you get a chance ask Theo "How does drain cleaner work?",or "How does the
 photo-electric effect work?", or "How does a fuel cell work?".
            John.
 





Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: AlienGrey on April 05, 2016, 03:00:49 PM
Have you ever noticed haw politicians don't do any work but get paid 4 or 5 times what we do, don't pay any tax and have an interest in a Palestinian destroyed culture ? No! ever tried migrating their and had it refused, this sounds like one of those type of deals to me, what about doing it all for free and nick nacks to greed ? You could make  living from it just amongst your pals and locals, come on you lot !

Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: tinman on April 05, 2016, 03:15:42 PM
Re: TinselKoala

Come on Sir,

I dont bite unless you turn tail and make outrageous claims why you can't do it. You're very close to what this project is about, anyway. I can almost see the gravity beam in the center axis of the caduseus tube affecting the radio in the Faraday cage, instantly....you just have to bend the tube into a ring, a toroidal ring, and you will have captured the gravity beam running in the axis of the ring just like in the centers of Leedskalnin's motor or the Ankh (PMH).....you're gonna head in that direction anyway, you know. Once the ring is formed, you will have a gravity field of potential around the ring, or the dual rings in the case of the MetaQEG, which nothing can stop, in its communication with loads or with another dual, toroidal coil/gravity receiver. Please reconsider before I go through the lenghty process of trying to contact TheoriaApophasis.

PS, Dont look down the axis of the caduseus tube beam...one tube end beam is death, the other end is life.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 05, 2016, 07:11:46 PM
 :-*
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 05, 2016, 07:13:14 PM
Have you ever noticed haw politicians don't do any work but get paid 4 or 5 times what we do, don't pay any tax and have an interest in a Palestinian destroyed culture ? No! ever tried migrating their and had it refused, this sounds like one of those type of deals to me, what about doing it all for free and nick nacks to greed ? You could make  living from it just amongst your pals and locals, come on you lot !

Get off my thread.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 05, 2016, 07:14:55 PM


 Meta,
       why not try asking UFO Politics? He's made a video supporting Theoria, trouble
 is the title includes "magnetic particles" and Theo adamantly denies the existence of
 particles.
    If you get a chance ask Theo "How does drain cleaner work?",or "How does the
 photo-electric effect work?", or "How does a fuel cell work?".
            John.

I will contact him if necessary.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 05, 2016, 09:08:17 PM
I have an idea based upon Tom Beardens overunity circuit

Well you have failed before you even began, as Tom Bearden never had an overunity circuit. (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)


Brad


100% correct.
 
Bill

Bearden's MEG

http://www.cheniere.org/megstatus.htm (http://www.cheniere.org/megstatus.htm)

http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm (http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm)

Patented US Patent 6,362,718 (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=0&f=S&l=50&TERM1=6362718&FIELD1=&co1=AND&TERM2=&FIELD2=&d=ft00): Motionless Electromagnetic Generator

Inventors: Patrick Stephen L; Bearden Thomas E.; Hayes James C.; Moore Kenneth D.; Kenny James L.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Beardens Over Unity circuit

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tbfrenrg.htm

Seems you two are a couple of lying dogs.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Pirate88179 on April 06, 2016, 12:27:31 AM
I have an idea based upon Tom Beardens overunity circuit

Well you have failed before you even began, as Tom Bearden never had an overunity circuit. (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)


Brad

Bearden's MEG

http://www.cheniere.org/megstatus.htm (http://www.cheniere.org/megstatus.htm)

http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm (http://jnaudin.free.fr/meg/meg.htm)

Patented US Patent 6,362,718 (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=0&f=S&l=50&TERM1=6362718&FIELD1=&co1=AND&TERM2=&FIELD2=&d=ft00): Motionless Electromagnetic Generator

Inventors: Patrick Stephen L; Bearden Thomas E.; Hayes James C.; Moore Kenneth D.; Kenny James L.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Beardens Over Unity circuit

http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tbfrenrg.htm (http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/tbfrenrg.htm)

Seems you two are a couple of lying dogs.


Lying dogs?
 
More like dealing with what we like to call...reality.  There has NEVER been a documented and third party verified overunity device...ever...period.  Therefore, Bearden does not have one and NEVER did.
 
If you don't/can't understand this that is fine but because you do not understand the truth does not make me a lying dog...Tinman either.
 
Bill
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: citfta on April 06, 2016, 12:51:47 AM
Meta,

Maybe you should try reading what you post links to.  Here is a quote directly from your link to Beardin's Overunity circuit:

I hope that, with this short description, I have been able to clarify a bit the Tom Bearden's " Final Secret of Free Energy ". Now, only a real working device will prove if his claim can be more than a simple overunity dream...


Then that page links to another page where we find this quote:

The HEP/TEP device is not yet a true overunity device is energy term, but it is able to produce a highly efficient mechanical work by converting motion of charges which has created itself than any conventional solid state device.

So your links do not match up with your claims.   I have also studied overunity claims for many years and have even seen what I am convinced was actual overunity so I am not saying I don't believe it is possible.  But no where have I found any evidence the device you are promoting has ever worked as claimed.
When someone says it doesn't work that does not make them lying dogs or any other derogatory name you want to call them.  They are telling the truth and until you or someone else shows a working Meg or whatever you want to call it their claims are still true.

Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: verpies on April 06, 2016, 09:03:09 AM
Get off my thread, presumptuous assholes.
Name calling is the result of reading all these books?
No, he resorts to profanities when he runs out of substantial arguments.
See below:

You condescending, arrogant, dismissive asshole. Fuck you.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 06, 2016, 09:15:18 AM
Your accusation was......

"Well you have failed before you even began, as Tom Bearden never had an overunity circuit."

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I showed you the circuit. You are still lying dogs.

My offer still stands, for anyone.

Which of you losers wants to build it and prove Bearden and myself wrong...its your perfect opportunity....Do you realize its not Beardens circuit any more? Its Bearden with a twist.......or do you fall under my warning as quoted in my original offer.....

"Remember, to criticize, before through research, is the height of stupidity."  .....

Which is exactly what you're doing.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: ramset on April 06, 2016, 02:10:56 PM
Atem
sorry I meant
Meta...
*we have a rude fellow named Atom comes thru every now and then to cause confusion here.
he was shown the door ...he changes his handle and sneaks back in  but likes to use Atom as some part of it.

AnyHoo
You keep bragging about all the Books you read , seems you imply its a path to your unique understanding.

I am a terrible speller and sentence writer so I usually can't throw a stone in this department

But your the potty mouth  bragger here , and since you reposted it now twice ,,,

its spelled

thor·ough.


[ˈTHərō]
ADJECTIVE
1.complete with regard to every detail; not superficial or partial:
"planners need a thorough understanding of the subject"


-------------
perhaps you should read a bit slower ...more thoroughly
you might actually absorb more useful info.

I think your fibbin about all them books ,unless they were in Chinese ??



Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: tinman on April 06, 2016, 03:53:48 PM
Your accusation was......

"Well you have failed before you even began, as Tom Bearden never had an overunity circuit."

------------------------------------------------------------------

I showed you the circuit. You are still lying dogs.

My offer still stands, for anyone.

Which of you losers wants to build it and prove Bearden and myself wrong...its your perfect opportunity....Do you realize its not Beardens circuit any more? Its Bearden with a twist.......or do you fall under my warning as quoted in my original offer.....

"Remember, to criticize, before through research, is the height of stupidity."  .....

Which is exactly what you're doing.

The height of stupidity is not knowing the people you are dealing with,and not knowing what they have and have not done.

I see you pride your self in metaphysics.
I can see that clearly-->an abstract theory with no basis in reality.
Suits you well.


Brad
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Pirate88179 on April 06, 2016, 04:45:39 PM
Your accusation was......

"Well you have failed before you even began, as Tom Bearden never had an overunity circuit."

------------------------------------------------------------------

I showed you the circuit. You are still lying dogs.

My offer still stands, for anyone.

Which of you losers wants to build it and prove Bearden and myself wrong...its your perfect opportunity....Do you realize its not Beardens circuit any more? Its Bearden with a twist.......or do you fall under my warning as quoted in my original offer.....

"Remember, to criticize, before through research, is the height of stupidity."  .....

Which is exactly what you're doing.

Well, you have once again proven to everyone that you have very little grasp or understanding of reality.  Next time you read 39,000 books, (which is total BS, the math does not support this remote possibility unless you are 150 years old) try reading at least one or two that are non-fiction and based upon science.
 
Bill
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: derricka on April 06, 2016, 11:31:17 PM
Quote
Incorporated in the switch are the two single pole/double throw switches. This one Fast Switch chip must be rated at the Relaxation time of the electron. This is far faster than 1ms as designated. It should be in the GHz or nano/picosecond range.


I am afraid there is nothing I can do to help you.


TK will NEVER give away the secret of DPDT. It is the secret of secrets. Even members of MJ-12 don't have the required level of clearance, and are sent packing if they dare ask about it.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 07, 2016, 03:16:04 AM
So far none of you have any skin in the game, you just like to hear yourselves mouth off.

You have no standing since you refuse to build.... shut up and leave my thread.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: memoryman on April 07, 2016, 03:28:51 AM
You may have started this thread, but you don't OWN it. What 'skin' do you have in the game?
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: AlienGrey on April 07, 2016, 09:21:38 AM
Calm down Meta   your sounding just like that Atom guy, Go back and read your reply to each comment you have I'm sure it says much about you!

life is for learning and control is Satanic demonic even.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: citfta on April 07, 2016, 12:40:27 PM
So far none of you have any skin in the game, you just like to hear yourselves mouth off.

You have no standing since you refuse to build.... shut up and leave my thread.

Meta,

You really don't seem to understand how to work with people.  Most of the people on here you keep telling to get off YOUR thread are serious researchers that have been building for years.  If you want someone to build based on your ideas then YOU have to build first and show some results.  Then other researchers MAY choose to build and help you verify your claims.  If you don't believe in your idea enough to build it first then why should anyone else spend time and money to do it?

Every week on this and other forums like this people like you show up making unsubstantiated claims.  Most of us don't have the time or money to go chasing every wild idea someone else has.  So we concentrate on ideas that have ALREADY shown some promise.

Build it your self and show us what you have.  Then MAYBE someone will decide to try your ideas.

Respectfully,
Carroll
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: tinman on April 07, 2016, 12:54:31 PM
So far none of you have any skin in the game, you just like to hear yourselves mouth off.

You have no standing since you refuse to build.... shut up and leave my thread.

If all here that refuse to build your -um-twisted up Bearden what ever it is,then the thread would be empty,and you would be talking to your self.

Now-first thing you need to do,is build the device,and show your OU result's--just as Bearden didnt :D
Then maybe--just maybe,some one will have the time to waste,as they did not see the mistake in your measurement's on the device you are yet to build. ;)

So ,you have made the claim,and so,it must be you that back's up this claim.
We are not here to bow down to your demand's,so best get use to that fast-hey ;)


Brad
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: conradelektro on April 07, 2016, 03:07:17 PM

Which of you losers wants to build it and prove Bearden and myself wrong...its your perfect opportunity....Do you realize its not Beardens circuit any more? Its Bearden with a twist.......or do you fall under my warning as quoted in my original offer.....


It has been said very often in this forum that negative proof is not possible (or better said: a negative proof is a logical fallacy), but I want to repeat it for Meta and all people who still do not understand what can be proved and what can not be proved.

Look at this web site, it explains very clearly why Meta is wrong by demanding "Bearden or himself should be proved wrong":

http://www.qcc.cuny.edu/socialsciences/ppecorino/phil_of_religion_text/CHAPTER_5_ARGUMENTS_EXPERIENCE/Burden-of-Proof.htm (http://www.qcc.cuny.edu/socialsciences/ppecorino/phil_of_religion_text/CHAPTER_5_ARGUMENTS_EXPERIENCE/Burden-of-Proof.htm)

https://youtu.be/KayBys8gaJY (if you prefer to watch a video explaining the burden of proof)


For all who can not read and understand the above web site, I explain it in very simple words:

- One can not prove that Bearden's MEG does not work. Whatever one builds and if it does not work, someone can claim that an essential feature has been overlooked or that it was implemented in a wrong way.

- But one could prove that Bearden's MEG works indeed by demonstrating a working MEG. Of course the demonstration must be clear and measurements must be verifiable by third parties.

Said in even simpler terms: The burden of proof is with Bearden or Meta.

Greetings, Conrad
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: verpies on April 07, 2016, 08:44:14 PM
It has been said very often in this forum that negative proof is not possible (or better said: a negative proof is a logical fallacy),
More precisely an existential negative proof is a logical fallacy.
This happens because:  the lack of proof of existence, is not a proof of non-existence.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: verpies on April 07, 2016, 08:50:22 PM
Then maybe--just maybe,some one will have the time to waste...
It is not only about time.

To make a SPST bilateral switch that switches-OFF high voltage below 10ns costs ~10kUSD.
...and switching-OFF below 1ns costs at least ~100kUSD.

But the MetaQEG requires two SPDT bilateral switches, with unknown delays between the throws (MBF?).  You can only guess how much that would cost!


P.S.
Switching ON high voltage with speeds around 1ns is cheap because an ordinary spark-gap can do that.  Krytrons and Sprytrons are better of course, albeit not cheap ;)
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: ARMCORTEX on April 07, 2016, 10:19:35 PM
So you wanna build gravity device?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zofLzxcc5AE&nohtml5=False
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 08, 2016, 02:31:09 AM
Calm down Meta   your sounding just like that Atom guy, Go back and read your reply to each comment you have I'm sure it says much about you!

life is for learning and control is Satanic demonic even.

Since when did my thread become an examination of the messenger rather than the job I give to you to examine the message, which you consistantly fail to do.

You assholes consistantly turn every thread into the erroneous premise that

If the messenger is a saint, the messengers device will work.
If the messenger has errors, at all, the device is unworthy.

Listen up assholes, my devise doesnt care who I am and I will be anyone I want to be, toward you.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 08, 2016, 02:43:27 AM
- One can not prove that Bearden's MEG does not work. Whatever one builds and if it does not work, someone can claim that an essential feature has been overlooked or that it was implemented in a wrong way.

______________________________________________________

OK if you got over the negative proof, let me make it easy for you......

I give you the task of building the MetaQEG if you have the tools and test instruments.....any one of you....you have two days to respond.....we will work together....if you build and test it with instruments and it doesnt work as advertised then both of us have failed and we will drop the machine off to a third party to have it verified.....deal or no deal.

My guess is you will reject this offer and continue skirting the actual doing of it, with more worthless blab.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: ramset on April 08, 2016, 02:52:00 AM
Well
this would normally be the part where somebody gives you a slight attitude adjustment whilst dribbling your Noggin down the Bar. 

but Stefan doesn't let us do that anymore..... :'(

careful with that door it closes quick ... Don't let it hit you on the way out...






Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 08, 2016, 02:56:42 AM
More precisely an existential negative proof is a logical fallacy.
This happens because:  the lack of proof of existence, is not a proof of non-existence.

Permit me to even further explain concerning your proofs, that all of science loves to use as a block to all new theories.....

For proof to exist, it must be attached to an Absolute, in some way. I know of only two absolutes and one is the ratio of a diameter to a circumference of a circle, no matter how large or small the circle and that is 3.14159xxx infinitum. The other is the ratio between the outer and inner volumns of a torus, that always being 3....I have the maths for that.

Since no one has ever converted any letter, sentence or paragraph to number equivalents and associated them with these Absolutes, all so called proofs, all facts, all truths and all words we hold dear are mere speculations, arbitrary, relative and mere opinion, sometimes backed up by strength of will and weapons....that all...it just your worthless opinion against my worthless opinion and I favor my opinion over yours.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: ARMCORTEX on April 08, 2016, 02:59:28 AM
Yeah Meta, if you talk that talk, you must walk the walk.

Having an attitude is good and sometimes funny, but you must also work and produce.

So far I see no work, I dont have much respect for slackers who talk like Nasa generals.

GTFO.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 08, 2016, 03:01:34 AM
Well
this would normally be the part where somebody gives you a slight attitude adjustment whilst dribbling your Noggin down the Bar. 

but Stefan doesn't let us do that anymore..... :'(

careful with that door it closes quick ... Don't let it hit you on the way out...

Ohh so you are that cretin who will theaten with violence rather than resort to your higher form of law you allegedly possess? We know your type. Get off my thread.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 08, 2016, 03:05:35 AM
Yeah Meta, if you talk that talk, you must walk the walk.

Having an attitude is good and sometimes funny, but you must also work and produce.

So far I see no work, I dont have much respect for slackers who talk like Nasa generals.

GTFO.

You've already missed the deal I offer in the very first post....I give the project to anyone who has the time and tools to build the circuit.....Im not the one building it, you are....if you want to stop your big mouth and do it. You GTFO if you dont have what it takes, loser.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: ARMCORTEX on April 08, 2016, 03:12:40 AM
I understand that you are yound and very immature.

But you are showing boxes diagram, based on assumptions from Tom Bearden, a man who has never shown a working device, and to my knowledge, nobody has replicated nothing worth anything based on his information.

The first thing to become an inventor, learn and do, be logical.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 08, 2016, 03:14:21 AM
To make a SPST bilateral switch that switches-OFF high voltage below 10ns costs ~10kUSD.
...and switching-OFF below 1ns costs at least ~100kUSD.

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Bearden once said,

"the electron is the (fast) switch".

Can you grasp it.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 08, 2016, 03:19:23 AM
The first thing to become an inventor, learn and do, be logical.

________________________________________________

I'll repeat it just once more for you.

Im giving you permission to build it for me because I dont have the tools for it. Clear enough?
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: ARMCORTEX on April 08, 2016, 03:32:27 AM
Its not about money, its about the fact that it dont work. Its an easy excuse.

Money is only 1/4 of the problem, and sometimes it is not an issue if you have the knowledge

And it something costs so much, you should move on to something else, or it needs total redesign.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: verpies on April 08, 2016, 01:23:15 PM
To make a SPST bilateral switch that switches-OFF high voltage below 10ns costs ~10kUSD.
...and switching-OFF below 1ns costs at least ~100kUSD.
Bearden once said,

"the electron is the (fast) switch".
So now you are changing the Modus Operandi of your device from:
electrons being switched, to
electrons doing the switching themselves
...BTW: switching what?
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: ramset on April 08, 2016, 02:49:29 PM
Noo
Now He's switched Venues too

His Zeal is commendable and in an odd way endearing ..
its like Monti Python Zeal ,roaming from castle to castle ..clueless about the occupants ..getting Cows thrown at him whilst looking for the Holy grail.

his offer is like the little Red Hen fairytale on LSD ," is there Nobody in the Kingdom to make me a feast ??"

funny Guy ...

I wonder if he's a mix of somebodies A. I. and a public relations R+D tune up ??
40 thousand book data base ..but no manners , personality or common sense ??

Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: verpies on April 08, 2016, 05:05:23 PM
His Zeal is commendable and in an odd way endearing ..
I think so, too.

its like Monti Python Zeal ,roaming from castle to castle ..clueless about the occupants ..getting Cows thrown at him whilst looking for the Holy grail.
I gotta see that!

funny Guy ...
I find him entertaining, too.  That's why I am posting here.

I wonder if he's a mix of somebodies A. I. and a public relations R+D tune up ??
Interesting theory.  I hope he is not representative of mature A.I. 
Maybe A.I has to develop like a child and go through stages from infantility to adulthood.

40 thousand book data base ..but no manners , personality or common sense ??
Hmm, but that tickles me the right way because his esoteric view on the universe is quite close to mine.  If the conclusion from 40k books correlates positively with my way of thinking, then it lends credence to my worldview.
His common sense and engineering skills seem to be nonexistent, though.

Unfortunately esoterics alone, rarely leads to real working devices.  Take the sub ns SPDT HV switch for example.


Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 09, 2016, 02:56:16 AM
So now you are changing the Modus Operandi of your device from:
electrons being switched, to
electrons doing the switching themselves
...BTW: switching what?

_____________________________________________________

No electrons will be injured in this device.

We are switching cold, virtual, spatial electron potentials, not hot electrons.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: massive on April 09, 2016, 10:43:07 AM

is anyone familiar with Ford model T coils or induction coils ?   (alot of people are oblivious)

every school science lab used to have them

electrons travel the conductive path of the primary coil , the iron core becomes energized , the reed switch is pulled opened, there by breaking the flow of the electrons .... the core becomes de-energized and the reed switch closes , so now electrons flow again ... process repeats

so .....are electrons capable of switching ?   


I dont know Tom Bearden but alot of people say stuff about him . the guys a researcher and thats good enough , some one has to compile info .

most people hang off patents of all things , figure that one out . there doesnt seem to be too much Patent bashing going on , so they must be unquestionable it seems ....
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: verpies on April 09, 2016, 03:03:37 PM
is anyone familiar with Ford model T coils or induction coils ?   (alot of people are oblivious)
"Yes", to the latter, "no" to the former.

electrons travel the conductive path of the primary coil , the iron core becomes energized , the reed switch is pulled opened, there by breaking the flow of the electrons
The current might be interrupted in the primary winding, but the electric current keeps flowing in the secondary winding, ...which takes over the flow.
If the secondary winding did not exist, it would be impossible to suddenly interrupt the current in the primary winding.

so .....are electrons capable of switching ?   
being switched or switching something else? What?
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 09, 2016, 07:13:09 PM
- But one could prove that Bearden's MEG works indeed by demonstrating a working MEG. Of course the demonstration must be clear and measurements must be verifiable by third parties.

Said in even simpler terms: The burden of proof is with Bearden or Meta.

Greetings, Conrad

_____________________________________________________

Said is even more simple and repetitive (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/repetitive) terms.....

I don't have any measuring equipment nor the adaquate apartment in which to conduct a build or measurements. So your presumptions are all wrong. Read the offer again, numbskull.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 09, 2016, 07:21:35 PM

Unfortunately esoterics alone, rarely leads to real working devices.  Take the sub ns SPDT HV switch for example.

Fortunately Im using both sides of my brain with intuition and reasoning.

The switching time of 4-30 nanoseconds is going to be hard to reach....however if you search Bearden's Patent on the MEG, which claims overunity, you'll find another cycling interval that is much slower than nanoseconds. In his literature he also speaks of 1m, whatever that is, and also a frequency in the MHz range. Remember, upper partial harmonics can reach to the nanosecond ranges.
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: massive on April 09, 2016, 09:59:20 PM

the secondary coil is not attached to the primary coil , that is a description of an ignition coil . 

the pri is low L , these is high L .  and again , more electron flow .

A rheotome is not magnetic , it is a rotary make and break for DC , = it IS possible for a single coil or dual. its been possible since the 1800s

the effects of electrons , are switching the flow of electrons , using a magnetic reed , sudden make and break generates HV spikes , a quench capacitor is used to store and also to protect the tungsten contantacts from melting
no transistors or timing formulas involved , the switching is governed by the electrons .

@ META you do not need TK or Theoria to build anything , they dont need anyone to build anything .
reading 40 thousand books equates to nothing if you have no practical skills

DO something !     

Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 09, 2016, 11:48:22 PM
@ META you do not need TK or Theoria to build anything , they dont need anyone to build anything .
reading 40 thousand books equates to nothing if you have no practical skills

DO something !

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I see you have no sense of Law or justice.....my WILL is to let those that have measuring instruments, do it, but you, who have no skin in the game and no standing with me, interfere with my WILL and contract with others....mind your own business, no one asked you for your intrusions. Is that clear enough?
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: massive on April 10, 2016, 03:17:31 AM


this should be crystal clear .....

TK and Theroia are not going to turn your drawings into any practical device if you your self cannot motivate your self to any practical extent 

it is a rediculous proposal , a cooperative build , they build , you whip .

how many years have you had to accumulate tools ?  .... instead of reading .

but anyway Im off this thread as suggested , theres enough people who will ridicule you    ( wasnt me )
Title: Re: MetaQEG- An invitation to TinselKoala to a cooperative build.
Post by: Meta on April 10, 2016, 05:45:28 AM

this should be crystal clear .....

TK and Theroia are not going to turn your drawings into any practical device if you your self cannot motivate your self to any practical extent 

it is a rediculous proposal , a cooperative build , they build , you whip .

how many years have you had to accumulate tools ?  .... instead of reading .

but anyway Im off this thread as suggested , theres enough people who will ridicule you    ( wasnt me )

Thats it. Go somewhere else and lecture there.  I dont treat lecturers nor critics kindly. They deserve the utmost contempt. I hope you're catching on.