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Dingus Mungus

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2006, 12:25:35 AM »
need more details in last picture.

Just a piece of concept art really, it depicts the way I imagine the prototype operating, but currently my new area of concern is how to pick up and drop the float weights... I'm imagining magnetic cores in styrofoam.

Dingus Mungus

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2006, 12:27:09 AM »
This is the important picture not the concept art.
(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1651.0;attach=3992;image)

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #47 on: November 10, 2006, 12:53:25 PM »
This is the important picture not the concept art.
(http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1651.0;attach=3992;image)

yeah you pretty much nailed this one. i really like this.

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #48 on: November 10, 2006, 01:19:05 PM »
Hi Dingus,
good work with the animation.
The question now is,
how much work-energy is needed to move this additional
weight ?

BTW, what animation program do you use to make the animated GIFs ?
Many thanks.

Dingus Mungus

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #49 on: November 10, 2006, 11:31:25 PM »
Hi Dingus,
good work with the animation.
The question now is,
how much work-energy is needed to move this additional
weight ?

BTW, what animation program do you use to make the animated GIFs ?
Many thanks.

My thoughts exactly... What I imagine as the most energy conserving method to achive this is to have two weights on a teeter totter of sorts, each performing the same work in two different water tanks. When one weight is submerged the other is not and vice versa. Basicly it would ballance the force required in both dirrections, but then the question of "how much force is needed" still remains. I have only been working on the mechanics of the valve assembly not the physics, but if someone would like to work with me on a theorized model I would be glad to help. The first thing I think we would want to know is how much energy is required to move one liter of water up 1 meter with a vacuum then wwe can look at how much energy is needed with a displacement weight, at that point the picture will be much more clear.

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #50 on: November 12, 2006, 10:28:33 PM »
here is a suggestion, the weight can fall into the water far off in width, when it falls in the water the float will have a guide to the buttom tube's entrance.

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #51 on: November 12, 2006, 10:51:28 PM »
Oh I forgot to tell Stefan that I do all my animated modeling work in adobe flash and most of my component design in EmachineshopPro, and all my magnetic simulations in FEMM. I hope this information helps! I have been completely distacted from this project though, and wont be coming back to it untill I've finnished with my interest in the 5 metal non redux electrolizer... ;D

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #52 on: July 31, 2008, 05:17:35 PM »
Here is a nice simple way to do it...

It falls down hitting the trap door at the bottom, trap door foats back up as the heavy thing starts to float up the chube hitting a trap door at the top and repeating the process...

(http://i37.tinypic.com/25tesdc.jpg)

also when the trap door opens at the top, the presure of the water at the bottom trap door will tightly seel it until the top trap door falls back down

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #53 on: July 31, 2008, 06:02:46 PM »
no.
because the ball must displace some water and in your design theres no space to water be displaced, besides if you make that space at the entry point water would be displaced to the lower point and never would back to the upper one and that would make impossible to the floating ball float out of the system.

in few words, two bodies can occupy the same space  8)

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #54 on: July 31, 2008, 06:09:47 PM »
no.
because the ball must displace some water and in your design theres no space to water be displaced, besides if you make that space at the entry point water would be displaced to the lower point and never would back to the upper one and that would make impossible to the floating ball float out of the system.

in few words, two bodies can occupy the same space  8)

What if I where to make the trap door opening here
(http://i34.tinypic.com/2m818x1.jpg)

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #55 on: July 31, 2008, 06:42:28 PM »
then displaced water (ball still displace water even with the open door) would get out of the system and the ball never would reach the other end.

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #56 on: July 31, 2008, 11:13:50 PM »
then displaced water (ball still displace water even with the open door) would get out of the system and the ball never would reach the other end.

I clearly dont understand this...

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #57 on: August 01, 2008, 09:07:39 AM »
my spin on the valve idea...
Yes, In China this design could be OverUnity, in North America and in Europe - no way  :'(
Who or what will move those tight valves  ???
In Chine it is very simple - one or two Chineses for each valve - it costs NOTHING - thats why called OverUnity  ;D
khabe