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Offline hartiberlin

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New gravity motor from China
« on: November 01, 2006, 05:53:37 PM »
Hi All,
have a look at this machine,
that I just discovered the video on youtube.com:


http://youtube.com/watch?v=gxnHJoyrQpM

What do you think ?
It seems the upfloating weight is trapped inside
the water tube at the  top,
so how can it then be reconnected outside to the
chain to go down ?

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New gravity motor from China
« on: November 01, 2006, 05:53:37 PM »

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2006, 11:15:20 PM »
Hi Harti_Berlin

Thanks for the link.
This device sounds very amazing.

Yes, I agree with you, how could the weight be reconnected again to the chain?

Perhaps this apparatus is only a "proof of concept"?

You drop a weight.
It produces some work (overcoming friction losses  and lighting  2 bulbs, while going down).
But it is not the end of the story :you can lift up this weight again.
So you have gained free NRG...

When (if) you find a mean to reconnect this weight to the chain you get some perpetual motion.  ;D

There is some comments in the picture.
Infortunately I c'ant read Chinese.  ???

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2006, 02:16:52 AM »
perphaps there is actualy 2 weights on the chain, while one weight is halfway falling outside the tube the other weight is inside going up.

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Re: New gravity motor from China
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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2006, 02:40:05 AM »

Hi FreeEnergy

I see what you mean.

The simple question could be : is this device demonstrating any "overunity" behavior?

Anyway, IMO,  this machine is very tricky.
The falling weight just fit very well in the "ascending water tube" after diving into the "pool" . Does it not?

Sorry for my English!

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2006, 03:02:15 AM »
umm .. so how do you break the vacuum in the tube to get the floaty out without having to genereate a vacuum again (expensive energy wise) .. nope thats why they are stuck there ...

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2006, 03:06:24 AM »
There must be more to that unit. Why would anyone spend so much time and money on a prototype that big and release a video that shows nothing extraordinary. 

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2006, 03:31:43 AM »


My dear dean_mcgowan

Personally, in that very case, I had not the intend of breaking anything.

I was just wondering what it were about and asking some questions using words like 'perhaps' , 'if' and the conditional mood.

Of course my native language is not English and this could lead to misunderstanding.

The question remains: is this device showing a non-conventional behavior?

Anyway and BTW I remain yours faithfully

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2006, 05:41:00 AM »
don't worry it is just a guess. :)

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2006, 05:49:04 AM »
actualy when you see the weight go all the way up in the tube you will also see the water inside the tube go down and that is a bad sign. i dont know about this system, there might be a better way from keeping the water from going down in level when the weight reachs the top. if you can achive  that than we have an overunity machine. water leakage is very important.


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maybe water leakage isn't that much of a deal, what if there is a one way gate that the weight passes through right before it reachs the top? there will be water leakage but only within the gate and the top exit.

ps. 3 weights would be ideal. while one weight is Entering, the other is Exiting, and the other is Halfway there...
« Last Edit: November 03, 2006, 07:23:26 AM by FreeEnergy »

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2006, 07:29:29 AM »
i just dont know. ok ill just shut up now.

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2006, 01:09:36 PM »
W ll, one could do it this way, that one closes a shutter plate below the float, that has gone to the top. So the vaccuum still remains below the float inside the tube and only a small amount of water has to be pumped up... The question then is, if pumping up the lost water needs less energy, than the outside fall can generate ?

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2006, 10:15:20 PM »
W ll, one could do it this way, that one closes a shutter plate below the float, that has gone to the top. So the vaccuum still remains below the float inside the tube and only a small amount of water has to be pumped up... The question then is, if pumping up the lost water needs less energy, than the outside fall can generate ?

the outside fall should have more weight on it, at least thats what it seems like.

so should 3 weights be used? one Exiting, one Entering, one Halfway there?

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2006, 11:40:24 PM »
I have looked long and hard at these various buoyancy/floatation over-unity ideas and none of them work out in the end.
I find it funny that they went to all the trouble of building this setup without drawing it out on paper first and looking at what forces are taking place.

This one fails because you have lost a volume of water at the top of the tube equal to the volume of the float m3 X 1kg. This water is now sitting in the tank at the bottom.
So say 5L float x 1Kg = 5Kg of water.
Height of tube is say about 5m, so thats 5Kg x 9.8m/s x 5m = ~ 250 Joules or 250 watts for 1 second.

It would be like allowing the bottom of the tube break the surface and allowing a large bubble to float up inside the tube.
So when they can figure out how to make water,5 Kg of it, flow uphill, 5m, then success.

Nice idea but I think I will stick with the MEG for now.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,1565.100.html

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2006, 06:18:28 AM »
may be if they make everything a lot higher the falling weight will produce enough energy to use a pump to bring the lost water back inside :o

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Re: New gravity motor from China
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2006, 07:48:21 AM »
ok come to think again one weight is all you need.

ok add this to what the movie did not show...you know the open tank where the weight falls into???now picture that tank closed with a one-way(air proof) door where the weight falls into then AFTER it passes through the one-way door it falls into the water then goes up the pipe. when the weight reaches the top water will not desend because of the one-way door and the air sealed tank. you would also have a one-way door exit(air proof) at the top of the pipe.

so the energy of the fall/rise should be enough to pick up the weight from the top of the pipe without loss of water level.


peace
« Last Edit: November 07, 2006, 08:20:22 AM by FreeEnergy »

 

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