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Title: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: hartiberlin on April 02, 2016, 12:06:31 AM
The Kapanadze Team has again published a new Video showing his "Aquarium-type" Generator that seems
to power a few KWatts of loads only needing a ground line and a start pulse from a 9 Volt Battery.

Here is the latest Video.

What do you think ?
Has he hidden there inside the Aquarium-box  a few big Lithium Batteries or is this technology for real ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHLydOHRfB0

Regards, Stefan.

Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: MagnaProp on April 02, 2016, 12:18:44 AM
Not saying it isn't real. Just saying that April 1 isn't the best date to release a new energy video.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Pirate88179 on April 02, 2016, 12:19:07 AM
Stefan:
 
I can't watch the video because I am at work but will view it when I get home.  Thanks for finding and posting this.  I did not know he was still around showing his device anywhere.
 
Bill
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 02, 2016, 12:40:29 AM
I think a) for real and b):

One more Kapanadze riddle solved (thanks to verpies (http://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg478965/#msg478965))

Ever wondered why in the Kapanadze 2004 video they needed more than one attempt to switch on the lamps? Did Kapanadze use a switch with a loose or bad contact? Rather unlikely, I guess.

At 17:36 SWITCH ON (https://youtu.be/r99g4mjEvTE?t=17m32s)

At 20:45 SWITCH ON (https://youtu.be/r99g4mjEvTE?t=20m40s)

At 24:05 SWITCH ON (https://youtu.be/r99g4mjEvTE?t=24m02s)

And - astonishingly enough - here they needed more than one attempt in order to switch the lamps OFF!

At 18:37 SWITCH OFF (https://youtu.be/r99g4mjEvTE?t=18m33s)

What could be the cause of this strange behavior?

Below there is a snippet taken from ECT190, Cahier Technique, Ferroresonance (http://www.schneider-electric.com/ww/en/download/document/ECT190), it says »switching operations on the power system [...] can initiate the phenomenon by driving into saturation the iron core of one or two of the VTs of the parallel ferroresonant circuit [...]«.

One of the keywords here is »can«. It does not have to - but it can.

Hence, could that mean that one single switch on that Kapanadze device can drive the transformer hidden in the round box (http://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/dlattach/attach/155715/) into saturation but it could happen that more than one tries are needed to get it into ferroresonance? Here one and the same switch either initiates the state of ferroresonance or it disrupts it?

Interesting. Then how to get a transformer out of that state of ferroresonance? The simplest method, I guess, would be to disconnect something within the device. But a single switch can't do that directly. So this would mean the better solution is to have two switches. And what do we see on the improved green box device? We see two switches!

One step closer to the ultimate solution. :)
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 02, 2016, 10:02:14 AM

Interesting. Then how to get a transformer out of that state of ferroresonance? The simplest method, I guess, would be to disconnect something within the device. But a single switch can't do that directly. So this would mean the better solution is to have two switches. And what do we see on the improved green box device? We see two switches!

The second switch is IMO most likely used to cut the holding circuit for the latching relay, operated by the start-up battery.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: pix on April 04, 2016, 07:52:03 PM
I think a) for real and b):
One step closer to the ultimate solution. :)
Nothing new.
Another simple case of driven series resonance. With "ferro" it doesn't make it more mysterious.
In a high school you can learn that resonance in electrical circuits leads to infinite ( in theory) voltages and currents.
Therm "ferroresonance" energed mainly from power distribution systems when at certain situation inductance of transformer primary in series with capacitance caused by long underground cables forms a series resonant LC circuit.
The point is: how to grab that currents and voltages without disturbing resonance.
And this is a Tesla way.
I know also another way,but I will keep it to myself for a moment :)
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 05, 2016, 12:15:43 AM
Nothing new.

The new part here is the explanation for that odd switching method in the 2004 video.

The ferroresonance paper says, closing or opening a circuit-breaker CAN lead to the occurrence of ferroresonance. It depends on the exact switching timing in respect of the current state of the magnetic field.

Furthermore the paper says ferroresonance latches into a stable state of resonance independent of precise parameter values (non-linear resonant). Kapanadze's output of energy does look stable indeed without disturbing the resonance.

But maybe one has a better explanation for that multiple toggling in that 2004 video?

I know also another way,but I will keep it to myself for a moment :)

In the meantime (how long that moment ever might be) we should not forget that high voltage pulses and ionization is also involved in that state of ferroresonance.

Kapanadze said (or said not) it is »resonance in resonance«. Since the energy always flows from higher frequency to lower frequency, the high voltage circuit (where the free energy is supposed to be hidden) is the first resonance at 100Hz and the output circuit is the second resonance at 50Hz. And that whole thing has to work with an ordinary three-phase transformer connected the wrong way round by means of a frequency doubler.

That's the theory.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: pix on April 05, 2016, 11:10:28 AM
Kapanadze's output of energy does look stable indeed without disturbing the resonance.

Ferroresonance occurs on the primary side of distribution transformers, when secondary is open or at very low load.
To overcome ferroresonance to occur- typically is adding some load ( resistor) on the secondary.
Load on the secondary kills ferroresonance.



Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: tinman on April 05, 2016, 11:50:38 AM
And here they are,still churning out youtube video's,instead of basking in the sun on a beach in the Bahama's.
Unlimited free energy,but the millions or !death! has not found them yet :D


Brad
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 05, 2016, 01:45:24 PM
How do you know I'm not on the Bahamas right now? :(

But anyway, why connecting a load to the secondary coil?

cosmoLV (http://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg312925/#msg312925): »Also output transformer is not transformer but choke where High voltage are producing light ionisation second "inductor" produces light magnetic field«

Neither do we need transformation of voltage (220V in and out), nor do we need a galvanically isolated secondary coil. What we do need is ionization and a magnetic field.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 20, 2016, 01:00:22 AM
One more coincidence please ...

Watch and listen closely: When that guy tries to make the meter running backwards (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcPKz7uEq-8) with his arc welder he needs seemingly more than one try.

Like Kapanadze needs more than one try to switch his lamps.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: verpies on April 20, 2016, 03:56:49 AM
That might be something worth exploring.
Ferroresonance is a ephemeral phenomenon, but it does happen sometimes. 
It really does happen ...and when it does it often blows up transformers.

IMO the first step is to reliably detect when a transformer has entered a ferroresonance ...without a blast shield preferably.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Grumage on April 20, 2016, 12:39:54 PM
That might be something worth exploring.
Ferroresonance is a ephemeral phenomenon, but it does happen sometimes. 
It really does happen ...and when it does it often blows up transformers.

IMO the first step is to reliably detect when a transformer has entered a ferroresonance ...without a blast shield preferably.

Dear Verpies.

Is ferroresonance mechanical in nature?

I'm interested because before the days of AC and eddy currents most cores were made from bundles of soft Iron rods/wires and the Copper wires were Silk insulated. All very different to our modern methods.

 ;)

Cheers Grum.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 20, 2016, 07:10:08 PM
What could happen when we disobey that safety warning?

Maybe it should read: Doing so will bring welder output in resonance to ground, which makes free energy a serious possibility. Free energy means DEATH for all energy companies. ;D
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: AlienGrey on April 21, 2016, 01:58:09 AM
Dear Verpies.

Is ferroresonance mechanical in nature?

I'm interested because before the days of AC and eddy currents most cores were made from bundles of soft Iron rods/wires and the Copper wires were Silk insulated. All very different to our modern methods.

 ;)

Cheers Grum.
Ah! radio Luxembourg on a radio that looked like church doors ! ;) most of them ran off DC back then.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: AlienGrey on April 21, 2016, 02:05:12 AM
Dear Verpies.

Is ferroresonance mechanical in nature?

I'm interested because before the days of AC and eddy currents most cores were made from bundles of soft Iron rods/wires and the Copper wires were Silk insulated. All very different to our modern methods.

 ;)

Cheers Grum.
its driving the coil wound on a ferrox core till it resonated but as it's a solid ceramic device it can explode like a resonating glass, becomes unstable, so it's mechanical I suppose.
If you want to find that frequency get a MOSFET and driver feed it with a VFO and monitor it on a scope it will make a hell of noise, the one we tried did. have fun. (it sounds like a pig squealing) poor thing.

AG
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Artoj on April 21, 2016, 04:28:55 AM
Stage Show

I watched the video and made some simple observations, draw your own conclusions to my version of events. Regards Arto.

Fools Paradise

- The Jug base is already plugged into the power strip and never gets moved.
- Kap's assistant keeps you focused on the earth lead and connection
- He then shows no current in the earth lead
- He puts his tongue on it to prove it has no power.
- This keeps your attention on the Box.
- The drama is now focused on the 9 volt battery
- The battery toggles a latching relay (Magnetic Latching Relay)
- He fills the jug with water and shows you the lights and its back
- Now he shows he has 14.8 amps coming from the Box
- They pick up the unit and the table proving no extra wires
- They switch the fan and heater on/off to prove it is connected
- Then a focus on the wires to the box
- Kap then explains in pseudo-technical terms about the Box
- He switches it off, the latching relay is now reset via an internal 9v battery
- Now the unit is OFF

Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 21, 2016, 11:20:39 AM
Stage Show

I watched the video and made some simple observations, draw your own conclusions to my version of events. Regards Arto.

My conclusion: How does Kapanadze manage that ALL observers in ALL his presentations a) if they independent, do not find the deception b) if they on the inside, do not come up with how the trickery was made?


Regarding the width of the page due to oversize images ::)

Firefox > Stylish plugin:

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Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 21, 2016, 01:36:24 PM
Stage Show

I watched the video and made some simple observations, draw your own conclusions to my version of events. Regards Arto.

Fools Paradise

- The Jug base is already plugged into the power strip and never gets moved.
- Kap's assistant keeps you focused on the earth lead and connection
- He then shows no current in the earth lead
- He puts his tongue on it to prove it has no power.
- This keeps your attention on the Box.
- The drama is now focused on the 9 volt battery
- The battery toggles a latching relay (Magnetic Latching Relay)
- He fills the jug with water and shows you the lights and its back
- Now he shows he has 14.8 amps coming from the Box
- They pick up the unit and the table proving no extra wires
- They switch the fan and heater on/off to prove it is connected
- Then a focus on the wires to the box
- Kap then explains in pseudo-technical terms about the Box
- He switches it off, the latching relay is now reset via an internal 9v battery
- Now the unit is OFF

Yep, so simple you'll laugh.  :)
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Farmhand on April 21, 2016, 09:29:54 PM
Did he move the heater and the fan to show there is no wires going to them ? If any of the appliances had power wires to any
of them it could power the entire show.

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Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: cheappower2012 on April 21, 2016, 11:33:31 PM
Its assumed that everybody that goes to a demo of Tariel is a fool.
If you assume this you live in a dream world where only you know anything.
There has never been any person saying Tariels stuff is fake other that skeptics saying he could have
done things to fake it.The complain is he cheated me ,didn't give anything,how many
other demos has he done that were not recorded.Hes done this over a long period of time
yet no one has ever come forward and said I have proof that its fake.
he should have had all the appliances unplugged, also the light,he should have had a short connection
from the box to the plug in receptacle.He should have moved every appliance from near the wall
and plugged them in one at a time.He should have shown an oscilloscope picture of the ac output
if its a modified output its locally generated,if a sine wave a possible hidden wire.
People forget the real purpose of Tariels demo's is to lure in an investor,using hes greed against him
make them  believe that there going to go in business with Tariel in making these devices,remember the aquarium 2 team.
Tariels purpose is get the money for a demo then tell the investor to fuck off,and move to
the next victim and give them nothing.Is the device real,it depends on whither you believe a glass of water is half full or half empty.
If its real it can not work on principles taught in college,this is why the giant
brains that lost the ability to wear hats have no advantage,they tend to see the
 trees not the forest.There is no way that this device device turns on with a 9v heavy battery
if you look at a past video,it takes a lot of current at 220v to start the device.
I would guess there's a big 12v battery hidden activated by a relay,the relay activates by 9v battery.Once the device starts its in a looped
mode,it doesn't need the 12v battery or the relay.I have done 2 hardware simulations,one electronic the other electro-mechanical
as long as you supply energy they will loop,this allows one to understand the behavior,since the difference is one you supply energy the other is energy by supplied by the device.

All of Tariels devices appear to be 50HZ,220vac,there is far too much Tesla hero-worship going on.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: forest on April 22, 2016, 12:25:51 AM
C'mon man. He had many years to master this device. It is just a matter of frequency and voltage step up to run it from 12V car battery or 9V 200mAh small battery in full closed loop. It probably require just to charge the buffer capacitor enough.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: a.king21 on April 22, 2016, 08:52:14 AM
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Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 22, 2016, 10:05:48 AM

Arto: did you know that Kapanadze has 2 patent applications?
Did you know he outlines the principle?
You should read the patents before  you make foolish comments.
All you are doing is misleading people.
Who do you work for??

Unless Kapanadze is prepared to video a demonstration that at least shows all device peripheries moved from their initial positions and earth wires disconnected for close-up inspection, then he is simply inviting justified criticism and suspicion. Any comments about the modus-operandi of the device are justified in this situation, irrespective of what patents show.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 22, 2016, 02:15:16 PM
He has done so already. He has all device peripheries moved from their initial positions and earth wires disconnected for close-up inspection in the green box video (http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/Gruz/free-energy.geo.avi). Just remaining the far-fetched possibility that the earth wire is secretly stitched together of two different types of wires (none of the spectators became aware of) in order to connect a hidden hot wire.

Here (for the records) the two TK patents which so far the brightest minds cannot comprehend:

WO2008103129A1 (http://www.sumobrain.com/patents/wipo/Independent-energy-device/WO2008103129A1.pdf)
WO2008103130A1 (http://www.sumobrain.com/patents/wipo/Energy-transformer/WO2008103130A1.pdf)

Maybe knowing that the Stepanov device (https://youtu.be/O3O2JahD67o?t=10m) uses a frequency doubler circuit (see illustration below) helps to understand part of the TK patents. And I don't think that the stuff under Stepanov's cardboard box is some sort of a decoy only. Because it's hidden in a way that it took me two years to figure out the function of those diodes, capacitors and that (barely visible) resistor.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 22, 2016, 02:42:15 PM
He has done so already. He has all device peripheries moved from their initial positions and earth wires disconnected for close-up inspection in the green box video (http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/Gruz/free-energy.geo.avi). Just remaining the far-fetched possibility that the earth wire is secretly stitched together of two different types of wires (none of the spectators became aware of) in order to connect a hidden hot wire.


But not with his latest 2016 video, which is what is under discussion, or with the Aqua2 earth - video evidence for disconnection of braided earth. Its not a far fetched possibly that the green box device cables were 'stitched', its more than likely IMO.

You are showing a power supply into the frequency doubler. What type of power supply is this?
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 22, 2016, 03:50:14 PM
All TK videos are under discussion. And mixing it up with Stepanov videos shall be no mistake too.

The definition of »far-fetched« and »likely«:

Bury a hot wire under the lawn. Attach an invisible connector to its end. Also attach a connector to the bearded man's sole of his shoe. Route a hot wire through his trouser leg and through his shirtsleeve. Connect this hot wire to the device by means of a fake piece of ground wire. Use a piece of ground wire that is multipolar in contrast to the unipolar ground wire connected to the faucet without looking different.

And of course, muzzle that weird wired man.

Quote
You are showing a power supply into the frequency doubler. What type of power supply is this?

AC sine wave, I guess?
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 22, 2016, 04:31:00 PM


AC sine wave, I guess?

At what frequency and where from do you think?
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 22, 2016, 06:15:29 PM
Kapanadze 2004 device = Stepanov cardboard box device

In each case frequency is 50Hz via sine inverter and 12V car battery. As we can see below, both devices are build upon the same components, but slightly different in design. Stepanov's transformer is hidden behind the big diodes, Kapanadze's transformer is hidden in the Sadolin tin can. Stepanov uses four big diodes, Kapanadze uses four small ones. Stepanov connects two small capacitors together, Kapanadze runs his device with one big capacitor. Stepanov shows us a power resistor on a heat sink, Kapanadze shows us two components on two heat sinks most likely working as resistor(s).

Problem remaining: How to connect those hidden transformers to those visible frequency doublers the right way?
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 22, 2016, 06:54:35 PM

Problem remaining: How to connect those hidden transformers to those visible frequency doublers the right way?

Indeed! The fundamental problem: How to loop-back, so the battery and inverter can be removed as we see in Kapanadze's green box video.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 22, 2016, 08:30:27 PM
If surplus energy arrives looping back should be a minor problem. 8)

One more comparison:

Left hand side, the resonant LC circuit works in 3-phase mode, right hand side the resonant LC circuit works in 1-phase mode. Left hand side the L is a choke, right hand side the L is a transformer (don't know to which extent that matters). The transformer in the background on the left hand side should have its smaller equivalent in the tin can on the right hand side.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: cheappower2012 on April 23, 2016, 12:57:28 AM
Hoppy

Quote
Indeed! The fundamental problem: How to loop-back, so
the battery and inverter can be removed as we see in Kapanadze's green box video.

Did it ever ocurr to you that the devices that do not need the inverter,battery and transformer with bridge rectifier bridge
to operate use 2 devices in one,one supplies  the energy for the device to be looped for both devices.The other supplies energy to the load,this is how the aquarium 2 device works without an inverter.The 2004 device and the green box device ,are one device, so require an inverter,a big battery and a transformer with a bridge rectifier to achieve a loop condition.
Tariel is a lot smarter and ingenious than you might believe.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: a.king21 on April 23, 2016, 01:04:47 AM
Kapanadze shows you how to loop back in his patents.  duhhh.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: cheappower2012 on April 23, 2016, 03:01:09 AM
Aking21
I have a lot of respect for you having the guts to try
to get Kapanadzes device to the general public,you also caught
Tariel at hes weakest moment,and he dropped hes guard.
You have been lied to from the word go,the patents are nonsense
they show nothing,lead to nothing.It is not a Tesla invention nor has it anything to do with Tesla,Tariel says it does, to make people
focus on Tesla not Tariel.There all kinds of ways of looping,you can use a hardware model to simulate a device then loop it,it doesn't matter as
long as you supply the energy, in a real device the device would supply
the energy,its not magic,some things have to follow known rules,some
must be outside known rules for a real world overunity device to be real.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 23, 2016, 10:34:27 AM
Hoppy

Did it ever ocurr to you that the devices that do not need the inverter,battery and transformer with bridge rectifier bridge
to operate use 2 devices in one,one supplies  the energy for the device to be looped for both devices.The other supplies energy to the load,this is how the aquarium 2 device works without an inverter.The 2004 device and the green box device ,are one device, so require an inverter,a big battery and a transformer with a bridge rectifier to achieve a loop condition.
Tariel is a lot smarter and ingenious than you might believe.

Cheappower,

The point I made about the need to remove the battery and inverter in the case of the green box device was that if the device works outside of conventional principles, then the loop-back is needed for the device to run itself without help from any power supply provided by the user. A system working oiutside of conventional principles is clearly not what Tariel is running. I suggest that although I think I understand what you are saying, for the benefit of others, a block schematic from you would be better understood.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: leo48 on April 23, 2016, 12:00:54 PM
New video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUlLDQkqreA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY7dJQq5YQk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIivkWtSbR0

Leo48
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 23, 2016, 01:12:28 PM
New video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUlLDQkqreA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUlLDQkqreA)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY7dJQq5YQk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YY7dJQq5YQk)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIivkWtSbR0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIivkWtSbR0)

Leo48

So is this the real source of power, a generator complete with a long length of welding type cable and lamp board for the garden demo?
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: leo48 on April 23, 2016, 02:39:49 PM

Perhaps the generator is located inside a black box as usual
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 23, 2016, 02:40:27 PM
Thanks to Leo48

A electric motor drives a hydraulic pump to generate oil pressure (don't know the correct name of that machinery). That electric motor is connected to Kapanadze's OU device. So the motor and the additional loads running on free energy.

At 4:16 in the first video something seems to get jammed for a moment, thus the motor overloads the OU device briefly so the lamps flicker.

Unfortunately the camera operator did not focus much on the important parts, like that transformer without casing which is - I guess - not a genuine part of that oil pressure generator.

That half-round thing is connected with 4 wires. Couldn't be a diode bridge? ::)
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: leo48 on April 23, 2016, 02:46:03 PM
Resembles the diode bridge present within the cars dynamo

Leo48
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 23, 2016, 02:53:29 PM
Thanks to Leo48

A electric motor drives a hydraulic pump to generate oil pressure (don't know the correct name of that machinery). That electric motor is connected to Kapanadze's OU device. So the motor and the additional loads running on free energy.

At 4:16 in the first video something seems to get jammed for a moment, thus the motor overloads the OU device briefly so the lamps flicker.

Unfortunately the camera operator did not focus much on the important parts, like that transformer without casing which is - I guess - not a genuine part of that oil pressure generator.

That half-round thing is connected with 4 wires. Couldn't be a diode bridge? ::)

Well it certainly looks more interesting than the Stepanov device. As for the motor overloading the OU device, I'm surprised you have X-ray vision specs! I could do with a pair of those to look closer at the root like wires I see in some videos.  ;D
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 23, 2016, 02:56:09 PM
I knew it! I'm chased by diode bridges! (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=diode+bridge+car+alternator&qpvt=diode+bridge+car+alternator&qpvt=diode+bridge+car+alternator&qpvt=diode+bridge+car+alternator&FORM=IGRE) :o


So do we (does Kapanadze) need a diode bridge to run a AC motor, or incandescent light bulbs, or an electric water jug, or an electric fan? If the answer is NO then that diode bridge clearly serves a different purpose.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 23, 2016, 04:52:47 PM
I knew it! I'm chased by diode bridges! (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=diode+bridge+car+alternator&qpvt=diode+bridge+car+alternator&qpvt=diode+bridge+car+alternator&qpvt=diode+bridge+car+alternator&FORM=IGRE) :o


So do we (does Kapanadze) need a diode bridge to run a AC motor, or incandescent light bulbs, or an electric water jug, or an electric fan?

Clearly no, if the diode assembly shown is for automobile applications.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 23, 2016, 05:20:41 PM
Clearly no what? Since automobile applications running on 24V max. we got another important piece of information: That car diode bridge is not connected directly to mains voltage. What does that mean? What have we looked at just a few days ago? Wasn't that an arc welder circuit showing a diode bridge connected to the low voltage secondary side of the welder transformer? Low voltage high current.

Seems we need that diode bridge still but not the regular way.

One more coincidence. :D
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 23, 2016, 05:25:26 PM
Clearly no what?

 ??? Did you forget that you asked a question!
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: leo48 on April 23, 2016, 05:48:15 PM

The bridges dynamo of the automobile  are three-phase, and in this two of the three AC
 inputs are connected to the secondary winding  transformer,  and  third not connected,
 the negative is grounded and the positive returns in the box

Leo48
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 23, 2016, 05:52:35 PM
»the positive returns in the box« - is that so .... :)

But I'm not sure if a simple 'No' is the correct answer to my question. The answer should rather be 'Perhaps'.

Asking myself how long it will still take until I hit the bullseye, just by thinking and looking at blurry images. :D

This is a 3-phase transformer connected to a 3-phase diode bridge. For illustration only.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 23, 2016, 05:57:47 PM
The answer should rather be 'Perhaps'.

Yes, perhaps, if you like the smell of smoked components.  ;D
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: leo48 on April 23, 2016, 07:29:22 PM
It could simply supply for low voltage electronic

Leo48
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 23, 2016, 08:34:31 PM
It could simply supply for low voltage electronic

Leo48

That trafo and rectifier are way too big for the electronics. I'll hazard a guess that its used with the generator to send power to the devices in the garden videos via that long length of coiled cable.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: leo48 on April 23, 2016, 09:49:55 PM

Kapanadze its equipment uses recycled material and therefore it is greatest that's okay

Leo48
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 23, 2016, 09:50:37 PM
Schematic below just for illustration. :)

That resistor could be any load like an incandescent light bulb or a heater. In any case it would double the frequency supplied to the coil which is connected in series with the capacitor. The upper transformer is step-down 50Hz (mains in), the lower transformer is step-up 100Hz. Interesting configuration. One 3-phase transformer running at two frequencies at a time. But I think there is still something missing.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: leo48 on April 23, 2016, 10:19:49 PM
I managed to recover an enlarged photo of the transformer

Leo48
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: cheappower2012 on April 23, 2016, 10:59:41 PM
Hoppy

The way I view both the tpu and tariels device is a certain amount of it runs under conventional
electronic principles,the part generating the overunity does not,however a conventional electronic
method is used in a strange way to create the overunity.It takes a given amount of energy
in my opinion to create the condition that produces the overunity and this has to
be supplied or the condition stops,therefore the overunity stops.This is why the device must be
looped to operate.If you look at the 2004 video they take a reading of the current drawn by the device
to produce the output,that must be supplied to maintain the 4kw output.It looks to be around 80 to 100 watts.
The one device picture shows the method used in the 2004 and green box videos,the second picture is like the aquarium 2
video and others using a 9 volt battery to start the device.Of course there is more circuitry
in the 2 devices picture since the device one, has to generate an ac 50 hz signal and generate 220 vac
from the 12 volts and create an independent 50 hz 220 vac when powered by the second devices 50 hz,220 vac output.


The new video from Tariel is outrageous,I agree with leo48 the black box is the real device,the
motor connected to the what ever that is,is to distract the investor.Hes using the same fake out that he used with the magic wheel.The transformer used is connected to the 3 phase motor not a functional
part of the black box in my opinion.


Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 24, 2016, 10:39:12 AM
Cheappower,

Thanks for the schematics to explain the two modes of operation. I had heard that Tariel messed about with generators and here is the proof. That long length roll of thick black cable is telling in my opinion. If he was running the green box device from the generator, via that cable, we have been concentrating our thoughts on the wrong end of the device!
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 24, 2016, 11:35:35 AM
As we can see, the transformer of the Kapanadze 2004 tin can setup is connected the same way like in the Kapanadze 2015 hydraulic setup. Four wires going to the primary coil, two wires going from the secondary coil to the diode bridge.

There is one difference though (because we can't see it in the 2004 video): There are two wires connected to diode bridge positive. And just as a coincidence, in my previous schematic there is one capacitor and one resistor connected to that diode bridge positive, this makes two wires.

But now we know for sure that the transformer in the 2004 video is a step-down one, because the diode bridge from car alternator is not suitable for grid voltage.

Question: Maybe by chance we could see a resistor on a heat sink anywhere mounted on that hydraulic frame? Just guessing ...

Part-Number of that diode bridge is: БПВ 46-65-01 (http://www.amperavto.ru/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2549)
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 24, 2016, 06:27:28 PM
Zeit,

Don't get over excited about that transformer, as I think the generator is being turned by a motor running on liquid fuel of some kind. You can hear it circulating just before the motor starts up.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 24, 2016, 11:25:07 PM
New physics? Liquid fuel in a closed bucket runs a motor working as generator that lights up a bank of lamps? ???

This could be considered as OU also. :)
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: verpies on April 26, 2016, 11:13:28 AM
Is ferroresonance mechanical in nature?
I am not sure.  It could be magnetoacoustic in nature, like in this video (http://overunity.com/Magnetostrikció) or even nuclear ...or both.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 27, 2016, 10:31:07 PM
Perhaps the generator is located inside a black box as usual

I think the setup is as as follows: -

The hydraulic pump and motor are housed in the red barrel. The black box has a rear entry hole for a cable link to the red barrel, so that in normal mains operation, the transformer supplies low voltage, high current to drive the motor. A mains isolated AC supply is taken from the blue generator into the black box where it is terminated to the outgoing supply cable. In order for the generator to continue operating during the mains disruptions, a heavy duty battery is housed in the red barrel and switched to power the motor.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 28, 2016, 02:10:22 AM
I am not sure.  It could be magnetoacoustic in nature, like in this video (http://overunity.com/Magnetostrikció) or even nuclear ...or both.

The link seems to be broken.

AC supply is taken from the blue generator

Blue is an induction motor (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=induction%20motor&qs=n&form=QBIDMH&pq=induction%20motor&sc=8-15&sp=-1&sk=). It can't work as generator.

But there is something we know now:

a) The frame is ground, the device needs no additional grounding.
b) The diode bridge minus is connected to frame, therefore ground.
c) Device can self-run without external inverter.

So, what is missing in the red box below? It can't be much, can it?
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: verpies on April 28, 2016, 05:33:59 AM
The link seems to be broken.
http://youtu.be/qauZ4WBwAOM
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 28, 2016, 10:58:13 AM

Blue is an induction motor (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=induction%20motor&qs=n&form=QBIDMH&pq=induction%20motor&sc=8-15&sp=-1&sk=). It can't work as generator.


http://www.redrok.com/cimtext.pdf (http://www.redrok.com/cimtext.pdf)

http://www.smallhydropower.com/induction.htm
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 28, 2016, 01:45:06 PM
You sure?

Now explain to me a) why Kapanadze should go through the length of exciting inconveniently an induction motor first to use it as generator, and b) what size your heavy duty battery must have to output KWatts of energy without running low during the demonstration.

To point a: It is not in order to have an output at 50Hz, because the green box setup runs at 50Hz without turning a large motor first. To point b: The ammeter shows around 10A at 220V equals 2200W that would make a current of 183A drawn from a 12V battery, if I'm correct.

On the other hand, the 2004 setup needed also »excitation«. The lamps are never lit immediately when connected to the inverter. Should that be a hint that this blue motor is part of the resonant circuit not simply connected to it?

Even more strange, switch on (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIivkWtSbR0) at 0:04 then at 0:14 the motor starts suddenly (after relay clicking). 10 seconds (in first video 12 seconds) delay, what for? Sounds like a small pump stirs up the oil prior to start. But what would the purpose of this when it runs on a battery (and a motor) hidden where the oil is supposed to be?

Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 28, 2016, 02:35:57 PM
You sure?

Now explain to me a) why Kapanadze should go through the length of exciting inconveniently an induction motor first to use it as generator, and b) what size your heavy duty battery must have to output KWatts of energy without running low during the demonstration.

To point a: It is not in order to have an output at 50Hz, because the green box setup runs at 50Hz without turning a large motor first. To point b: The ammeter shows around 10A at 220V equals 2200W that would make a current of 183A drawn from a 12V battery, if I'm correct.

On the other hand, the 2004 setup needed also »excitation«. The lamps are never lit immediately when connected to the inverter. Should that be a hint that this blue motor is part of the resonant circuit not simply connected to it?

Even more strange, switch on (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIivkWtSbR0) at 0:04 then at 0:14 the motor starts suddenly (after relay clicking). 10 seconds (in first video 12 seconds) delay, what for? Sounds like a small pump stirs up the oil prior to start. But what would the purpose of this when it runs on a battery (and a motor) hidden where the oil is supposed to be?

The battery is not hidden where the oil is supposed to be. The oil is outside of the red barrel that houses the motor and battery. The green box device if powered from this generator at a remote location, would of course not need to run on battery, as the mains would supply the motor via the step-down transformer.

The total length the 3-part video shows the motor running is 4m 19s. The voltage across the lamps is unlikely to be a full 220V and probably a lot less. So, even if the full 220V was applied, the current would be more like 100A. With a run time of just 4m 19s, this would be no problem for a battery capacity of 100A/h or more. The current would stay reasonably level looking at a typical discharge curve. As has been mentioned before, the real test is to see the device running for much longer periods of time, which are clearly beyond the capacity of batteries that could physically be hidden within a given device.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 28, 2016, 04:30:19 PM
That's quite a stretch. How did Kapanadze make sure no observer will demand a runtime that exceeds the capacity of the battery? We should think about that.

Meanwhile a transformer theory of mine: The primary coil of a step-down transformer is supplied by 220V 1A, the secondary coil generates 22V 10A (for simplicity sake). So what has to happen that the secondary coil generates 220V 10A? We need a stronger magnetic field, I guess. The normal way to strengthen the magnetic fields in the transformers core would be to rise the voltage supplied by the primary coil (saturation disregarded). But doing so will also rise the current going through the primary coil (thus the stronger magnetic field). But what if there were a different way to get a stronger magnetic field in the core of the transformer? A static electric field (http://blog.modernmechanix.com/static-on-moving-object-forms-magnetic-field/) can generate a magnetic field when set in motion. Now if we set that static field in motion not mechanically but by means of another magnetic field within a transformer, where one coil generates a static field and one coil a magnetic field. Will those magnetic fields add up? Or even multiply?
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 28, 2016, 04:55:50 PM
That's quite a stretch. How did Kapanadze make sure no observer will demand a runtime that exceeds the capacity of the battery? We should think about that.


Not at all. As I understand things, Kapanadze runs the show. I imagine that observers don't demand anything when on his turf! They may ask nicely but I'm sure that he would not have allowed anything that might risk spilling the beans. You may recall the security guys he had near the house during the transparent box demo.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: cheappower2012 on April 28, 2016, 11:01:18 PM
Both points of view are good,however the concept that a investor
 is a complete fool and would not demand a much longer run is not totally creditable.
People with money are very tight with there money,small fish maybe greedy enough.
This silly contraption in my opinion is a return to the mechanical
wheel type of devices that he did a long time ago.The question is why,did the investors reject
the solid state devices or did Tariel cheat so many people that
nobody lines up to invest in any devices so he has to come up with a new
trick,overunity oil motor turning generator.In my opinion the real power source is the black box
The black box powers the motor which turns the oil pump,the excess is used to power lights,heater.
If the motor is 3hp the devices output would be enough to power the motor and load.
If the generator provided the current to a load ,at start up it would slowly
 light the lamps up,notice no load  on, as the device powers up.If this was an inverter/battery setup
it should power up real quick.In any case there is no real information of use in this new device
Tariel looks to be in much better health so he will not screw up.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on April 29, 2016, 10:26:02 AM

An induction motor running as a generator needs to be running at speed before being loaded.

It is highly probable that this generator was running the garden devices via the cable we see coiled up. As to whether the generator was running OU remains unknown. However, if I were an investor, I would certainly want to see that red barrel opened up before signing-up but I really cannot see Kapanadze allowing that. No enclosed volume of space capable of hiding an energy source capable of powering a device can be simply dismissed. The black box is too small to hide anything significant. It appears to be just a cable termination box, with maybe some control circuitry. There is a cable access into the red barrel in the back of the box.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on April 29, 2016, 11:00:23 AM
The black box is too small to hide anything significant.

The Sadolin tin can is also too small to hide anything significant. Nothing new here.

In video #2 I can here a German voice saying »Machma [Machen wir] uns die Aufnahme, daß man die durchgucken kann.« Second voice: »Ja, ja, ja«. (We should take the record in order to look it over. - Yes, yes, yes.)

Does this mean something? Perhaps not.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on May 01, 2016, 10:15:45 AM
Small typo, it should read: »I can hear a German voice« :)
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: TinselKoala on May 01, 2016, 11:00:49 AM
http://infinitysav.com/freeenergydevice   -- claims to be located in Seoul, S. Korea

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n2KuK_YD5U

What language is being spoken?
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: TinselKoala on May 01, 2016, 11:06:44 AM
That's quite a stretch. How did Kapanadze make sure no observer will demand a runtime that exceeds the capacity of the battery? We should think about that.

(snip)

Typically, a component will conveniently fail, ending the demonstration, and no spare parts are available -- until after the observers have had to catch their flights home. At which point a new video will be published showing the "repaired" unit again working.

This is an old trick, used many times, but it still works. See PESN for examples.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: gyulasun on May 01, 2016, 11:43:47 AM
http://infinitysav.com/freeenergydevice (http://infinitysav.com/freeenergydevice)   -- claims to be located in Seoul, S. Korea

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n2KuK_YD5U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n2KuK_YD5U)

What language is being spoken?

Sounds Russian ?
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: forest on May 01, 2016, 12:54:15 PM
Sounds Russian ?


Sure, Russian. And device resembles Akula small devices.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on May 01, 2016, 03:25:46 PM
Sure, Russian. And device resembles Akula small devices.

Also with hidden battery in the transformer?

Typically, a component will conveniently fail, ending the demonstration, and no spare parts are available -- until after the observers have had to catch their flights home.

End of the demonstration due to a failing component? Surely the investor won't be amused.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Hoppy on May 01, 2016, 03:40:14 PM

End of the demonstration due to a failing component? Surely the investor won't be amused.

In Kapanadze's case, the investor is kept well away from the source of power - the generator, so any failure is down to environmental conditions, which are of course outside the control of the operator. For example, in the case of the green box device, a dodgy earth wire, not sucking up enough current, or a stormy atmosphere in the case of the Aqua2 device.
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: FatBird on June 28, 2016, 07:42:58 PM
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Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: FatBird on June 28, 2016, 10:07:22 PM
Diagram from Kapanadze's Patent WO 2008/103130 A1

file:///C:/a/0%20%20%20Misc/0%20%20%20Energy/Kapanadze/Patent%202.htm

My hunch is that where it says Freq Gen, is really a Spark Gap which will generate a Frequency & a LOT of harmonics.
For the input, an inexpensive Neon Sign HV transformer should work OR possibly a Microwave Oven Xfmr?
It's HV output can probably jump across a car spark plug gap.

The Voltage has to be high enough to jump the Spark Gap & energize Primary Coil 1.

The Diagram From The Web (bottom photo) shows a Spark Gap.
It looks like he uses an automotive Spark Plug for a Spark Gap in some of his videos.

Just to prove things out, I believe we can temporarily LEAVE OUT parts 6, 9, 10, 11, 12.


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Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on August 09, 2016, 12:20:24 PM
Quote
My hunch is that where it says Freq Gen, is really a Spark Gap which will generate a Frequency & a LOT of harmonics.

My intuition rather says that »Freq Gen« could mean Frequency Doubler. Of course in the patent it would have been too obvious to write it in such a plain way.

»In the Century article Tesla compares extracting energy from the environment to the work of other scientists who were, at that time, learning to condense atmospheric gases into liquids. In particular he cited the work of a Dr. Karl Linde who had discovered what Tesla described as a "self-cooling" method for liquefying air. As Tesla said, "This was the only experimental proof which I was still wanting that energy was obtainable from the medium in the manner contemplated by me.« Tesla's Fuelless Generator (http://home.earthlink.net/~drestinblack/generator.htm)

Now we can compare the block diagram below with Linde's self-cooling method (http://overunity.com/7679/selfrunning-free-energy-devices-up-to-5-kw-from-tariel-kapanadze/msg376052/#msg376052) and with Kapanadze's patent drawing above. Can we recognize any similarities?

The frequency doubler works like an AC valve. The energy can only flow from 50Hz input to the 100Hz output but not vice versa. On the other hand mixing 100Hz with 50Hz should result in an energy flow from high to low frequency. Hence what could happen if by any chance the grounding of the high voltage between the two transformers supplies that loop with a little bit of additional energy during each oscillation cycle?

Regards ;D
Title: Re: New April 2016 Video from Kapanadze shows again KWatts of Free Energy
Post by: Zeitmaschine on October 23, 2016, 07:00:26 PM
The Donald Lee Smith Coil is actually a center tapped Tesla Coil (a deeply interesting realization). :D

The primary LC circuit resonates at a given frequency. Assuming the secondary LC circuit (L2a) resonates at a different frequency (maybe twice or half), then what is the frequency of L2b? Is it the primary frequency because it is driven by the primary coil's magnetic field or is it the secondary frequency because it is directly (galvanically) connected to that secondary LC circuit (L2a)?

And what could be the direction of the flow of electrons coming from ground?

Could there be any unforeseen outcome?