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Author Topic: -----> Lights Out, Says NSA. Let's Get Serious Guys & Stop Trolling Around.  (Read 10948 times)

Offline CANGAS

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This is amusing in a way, we have a NSA disinformation agent, probably a BOT, saying we should give it away by throwing it to the wind, when the historical factt is that any invention which is thrown out but not sheparded dies due to the lethargy or cowardice of the general human populace.

So, we see the general human populace displaying a track record of begging for relief from poverty but being unable or unwilling to grasp a free energy invention and successfully apply it to general manifacture and distribution. Perhaps the human race taken as a whole is worthless to be considered for continued existence.


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Ohhh
surely you jest when you say we have general human populous here ?

But yes I agree we do have "play Bots" that come and tune here !
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I think you could pick a few good open source replicators and get a fairly big ball rolling in nano Time !

just one mans opinion.

Chet
 



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So, we see the general human populace displaying a track record of begging for relief from poverty but being unable or unwilling to grasp a free energy invention


Only when a people's fear of the unknown is drowned in the tub of their disgust with the known, can life begin anew.  And their fears are circling the drain as we speak.


Who knows what will shake out with the bath water as those tubs begin to tip?


I know of only One.




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Offline CANGAS

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Ohhh
surely you jest when you say we have general human populous here ?

But yes I agree we do have "play Bots" that come and tune here !
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I think you could pick a few good open source replicators and get a fairly big ball rolling in nano Time !

just one mans opinion.

Chet



Somehow it seems like you may have missed my point. It is entirely possible that I poorly explained it.

The population of the planet is roughly 7 billion. Roughly half live in terribly dire daily circumstances due to poverty. A functional OU free energy device could raise their living conditions remarkably and in a relatively short time IF such a mythical device were manufactured and made easily available to the service of those poverty stricken people. If a Lucky Inventor were to simply publish the blueprint for a device and then go back to sitting on his butt instead of proactively trying to get it into manufacture and distribution as quickly as possible, it would become helpful to those poverty afflicted people about the same time that Hell freezes over down to bedrock.

If the Lucky Inventor could somehow be protected from being "disappeared" or murdered or whatever long enough to get the device mass manufactured and distributed, in fact given away to the poorest, then in the foreseeable future every human could become free from the affliction of extreme poverty.

My style of doing things would have no need of replicators. If I Get Lucky, it will be presented in such a transparent fashion that anyone seeing  it demonstrated would be unable to doubt it.

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surely you jest when you say we have general human populous here ?

Surely you have very poor reading comprehension to get your wrong meaning out of my actual original words. Why dont you try reading my words again.

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No it was not a comprehension issue ....more a conflict issue.
I am in conflict with your release protocol ,

getting replications around the globe ,done by dedicated persons would seem a quicker path towards a Tangible result !

playing "look at me and what I've done" all by yourself ,,can be Dicey !
                       


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Somehow it seems like you may have missed my point. It is entirely possible that I poorly explained it.

The population of the planet is roughly 7 billion. Roughly half live in terribly dire daily circumstances due to poverty. A functional OU free energy device could raise their living conditions remarkably and in a relatively short time IF such a mythical device were manufactured and made easily available to the service of those poverty stricken people. If a Lucky Inventor were to simply publish the blueprint for a device and then go back to sitting on his butt instead of proactively trying to get it into manufacture and distribution as quickly as possible, it would become helpful to those poverty afflicted people about the same time that Hell freezes over down to bedrock.

If the Lucky Inventor could somehow be protected from being "disappeared" or murdered or whatever long enough to get the device mass manufactured and distributed, in fact given away to the poorest, then in the foreseeable future every human could become free from the affliction of extreme poverty.

My style of doing things would have no need of replicators. If I Get Lucky, it will be presented in such a transparent fashion that anyone seeing  it demonstrated would be unable to doubt it.

Surely you have very poor reading comprehension to get your wrong meaning out of my actual original words. Why dont you try reading my words again.

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Why do you think they live in poverty?
How are they to purchase such a device if they dont have the cash to do so.
If they have the cash to purchase such a free energy device,then why dont they have the free energy devices available today--solar systems?.

The whole problem is the big gun's--big oil,big pharma,big bank's,and corrupt governments.
As long as these f-ckwitts are in control,then things will remain as they are--and the situation is getting worse.

So it's not as easy as you think--bringing this mythical free energy device into existance--even if it did exist :D


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Why do you think they live in poverty?
The wealthy oppress the poor to result in a cheap labor force. You don't already know that?

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How are they to purchase such a device if they dont have the cash to do so.
You didn't read what I ALREADY SAID? "...... long enough to get the device mass manufactured and distributed, in fact given away to the poorest,"....

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If they have the cash to purchase such a free energy device,then why dont they have the free energy devices available today--solar systems?.
I wrote that the poorest DON"T have he cash to buy a OU free energy machine. Are you dyslexic so that you read something and the OPPOSITE MEANING registers in your brain? Because the poorest can't afford to buy one, is why I want to ideally give them away for free to the poorest.

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The whole problem is the big gun's--big oil,big pharma,big bank's,and corrupt governments.
As long as these f-ckwitts are in control,then things will remain as they are--and the situation is getting worse.
I already said that. Slightly paraphrased.

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So it's not as easy as you think--bringing this mythical free energy device into existance--even if it did exist :D
I said it looked hard not easy. Your brain seems to come and go, so far mostly GO.



My post, for your reading convenience;
 
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  Somehow it seems like you may have missed my point. It is entirely possible that I poorly explained it.

    The population of the planet is roughly 7 billion. Roughly half live in terribly dire daily circumstances due to poverty. A functional OU free energy device could raise their living conditions remarkably and in a relatively short time IF such a mythical device were manufactured and made easily available to the service of those poverty stricken people. If a Lucky Inventor were to simply publish the blueprint for a device and then go back to sitting on his butt instead of proactively trying to get it into manufacture and distribution as quickly as possible, it would become helpful to those poverty afflicted people about the same time that Hell freezes over down to bedrock.

    If the Lucky Inventor could somehow be protected from being "disappeared" or murdered or whatever long enough to get the device mass manufactured and distributed, in fact given away to the poorest, then in the foreseeable future every human could become free from the affliction of extreme poverty.

    My style of doing things would have no need of replicators. If I Get Lucky, it will be presented in such a transparent fashion that anyone seeing  it demonstrated would be unable to doubt it.

    Surely you have very poor reading comprehension to get your wrong meaning out of my actual original words. Why dont you try reading my words again.

    CANGAS 218


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No it was not a comprehension issue ....more a conflict issue.
I am in conflict with your release protocol ,

getting replications around the globe ,done by dedicated persons would seem a quicker path towards a Tangible result !
You are irrationally and incorrectly jumping to an unwarrented conclusion. You either honestly assume, or dishonestly deliberately claim, that I am an egotist. That is not true. My motivation is the opposite. My motivation is a strong heartfelt sympathy for the suffering of the poorest among us and and fierce desire to help them as soon as possible.  Besides, I have tentatively concluded that publishing and then waiting for the horde of armchair dedicated persons to produce enough courageous active persons to help humanity within the foreseeable future is a faint hope.   


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playing "look at me and what I've done" all by yourself ,,can be Dicey !
I already know that and already said that. Or are you just talking to yourself in your mirror.

Tell me, daydream and fantasize that I have GOT LUCKY. Fantasize that the inventing fairey has popped THE INVENTION into my head. Tell me step by step and in detail, HOW WILL PUBLISHING AND THEN SITTING BACK, make it quicker and easier and safer to help the poorest before they all die of poverty? My estimation of YOUR protocol, publish and go hide, is that your protocol would take a great amount of time to help the poor, while many starve to death by the minute.

Please understand, as you try to convince me to be a perfect coward, I AM A COWARD! I fear many things and hate discomfort. But I have a desire to be helpful quickly enough to meaningful.


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cangas
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My style of doing things would have no need of replicators. If I Get Lucky, it will be presented in such a transparent fashion that anyone seeing  it demonstrated would be unable to doubt it.

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sorry I assumed you would be doing this by yourself or have need of replicators.

your right I don't understand you,I will go and look in the mirror and see if that helps.........................

it didn't help.

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If you are sincere in your belief ..you will already be working with people everyday to make this happen .

and when it does happen you will already know what you will do and how you will do it ! and have the mechanism in place to make it happen.

if not.. you will have a lot of catching up to do ..and as you rightly state ,people are indeed dying with every tick of the clock.











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My style of doing things would have no need of replicators. If I Get Lucky, it will be presented in such a transparent fashion that anyone seeing  it demonstrated would be unable to doubt it.

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sorry I assumed you would be doing this by yourself or have need of replicators.

your right I don't understand you,I will go and look in the mirror and see if that helps.........................

it didn't help.

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If you are sincere in your belief ..you will already be working with people everyday to make this happen .

and when it does happen you will already know what you will do and how you will do it ! and have the mechanism in place to make it happen.

if not.. you will have a lot of catching up to do ..and as you rightly state ,people are indeed dying with every tick of the clock.


Thank you Ramset for your courteous responses to my comments.

You are right, I pretty much have it planned out for what I will do IF I GET LUCKY and it comes to the right time to make a public announcement. However, there is still a good bit of wiggle room in my plans, and I have taken part in this discussion in sincerity, to try to find anything useful to me in the gentle slow protocol of publish and hide. I hope and pray that all the participants in this thread have somehow noticed my sincerity and somehow not been offended.

It is my continual prayer that the poorest get relief from their suffering, it is in the hands of the Lord if it is by your protocol or mine, it does not matter to me.


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cangas

we just keep moving forward towards that goal.
and as you say looking in the mirror [keeping us honest] is a good thing to do.







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Perhaps this:  http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/11/we-need-an-energy-miracle/407881/
Bill Gates of Microsoft has pledged to commit $2 Billion dollars to energy research as he believes we need an energy miracle...

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Perhaps this:  http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/11/we-need-an-energy-miracle/407881/
Bill Gates of Microsoft has pledged to commit $2 Billion dollars to energy research as he believes we need an energy miracle...

Thanks for posting this. I will always hate Bill Gates for all the bugs in all Microsoft software, and his paranoia about anybody stealing his stuff, but it was interesting to see how he has moved an inch or two toward his long trek to becoming a compassionate human being.

Will his distribution of wealth do any good? Does he have enough common sense to aim the money in a really useful direction? I doubt it. But we will see. There are a number of optimistic inventors  who presently have an operating budget of $1.98, who could flourish if Billy threw some real money their way. Including CANGAS. But probably he will stick with the mainstream science avenues of photovoltaic, wind, whatever, good safe science.
 
I personally believe he is too stupid and too lacking in imagination to aim any money toward the arcane heretical sciences of Over Unity and Free Energy. And therefore he will make no difference in the human race struggle to survive Global Warming.

What is his wealth? 60B, 70B, 80B, $USD? $2B USD is a drop in the bucket. He is not raising one drop of sweat to look like he is helpful.

Welcome to Judgment Day, Billy. What did you do that REALLY helped the human race? 


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cangas
you would not jump to the top of Billy's short list with these comments !

I am personally very grateful for his Money driven madness ,we would most likely not be having this wonderful exchange were it not for his efforts.

Its what we do now that counts ,this internet has set us free in sooo many ways ,much quicker than anyone could ever have imagined ,there are people on the planet that have never even seen a payphone on a street corner in NYC .
and these same people have never  spent ten waking minutes away from a cellphone  !!

Writing a letter and putting a stamp on it and dropping it into Where ??

crazy stuff indeed.

on another note ..we could probably double your 1.98 budget if your tech shows promise ?? [pass the hat]

Chet K
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Note to Billy
Stop sending Me your free upgrade offers
I'll call you when I need it

Thanks


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cangas
you would not jump to the top of Billy's short list with these comments !

I am personally very grateful for his Money driven madness ,we would most likely not be having this wonderful exchange were it not for his efforts.

Its what we do now that counts ,this internet has set us free in sooo many ways ,much quicker than anyone could ever have imagined ,there are people on the planet that have never even seen a payphone on a street corner in NYC .
and these same people have never  spent ten waking minutes away from a cellphone  !!

Writing a letter and putting a stamp on it and dropping it into Where ??

crazy stuff indeed.

on another note ..we could probably double your 1.98 budget if your tech shows promise ?? [pass the hat]

Chet K
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Note to Billy
Stop sending Me your free upgrade offers
I'll call you when I need it

Thanks


chet, I have a secret to tell you. It is just between me and you. The way real good friends keep secrets OK?

I do not give a F F about getting on Billy's short list. He is a failed human that is being tried to be propped up by Melinda. He is sinking not swimming.

Many years ago today I became inspired to somehow try to help the poorest of the Earth, including me, as I have been often highly qualified. I planned to GET LUCKY somehow, perfectly legally and honestly, and give money to help the poor. My plan was to give myself a comfortable though not lavish life, but especially to, as soon as possible, to then give 100% of my big LUCKY income to charity good works to help the poor, in agreement with the biblical instructions starting with Matthew 25: 31. Billy G. has a dam lot more money than him and his bride needs to lives in comfort. Tell me all about how Billy G. is giving 100% of his income to pay for good works to help the poorest. Oh, he is not?

Yes we are so lucky to be using G* D* Microsoft computers, which in my personal experience are so buggy and so vexing to work on and repair that they qualify as instruments of torture. Largely because Paranoid Billy has made it virtually impossible to trouble shoot and reinstall the software in a timely way. My sister uses an Mac. One Mac. It does not freeze up and go blue screen and die in your arms. I have been having to buy a Microsoft computer about every year just to have one that runs.

My invention concepts need no more than my $1.98 budget. Although I live in poverty and would be much more comfortable and productive if it were otherwise. All I need is a seemingly reliable method to patent, publish, manufacture, and, distribute working devices to the rich and the poor without being prematurely murdered or disappeared by the good ole USA NSA. The rich will pay the same market rate for electricity as now, and my profits will pay for giving away devices to the poorest among us. And I will continue to live on a $1.98 income till I die. I am an old man now so maybe it won't be too long now.

My tech is mechanical physical concepts which MUST work unless Newtonian physics is GROSSLY wrong at everyday velocity and energy level. I am not claiming to have built and proved a OU device. Also please notice that I am NOT claiming that I have NOT built and proved a OU device. A NSA MIB with a stereotypical IQ of about 67 and a half is probably so confused by now that it is crying face in hands. 


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