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Gravity powered devices => Gravity powered devices => Topic started by: iacob alex on March 02, 2016, 01:00:33 PM

Title: The impossible wheel...
Post by: iacob alex on March 02, 2016, 01:00:33 PM
.....as an imaginative proposal , at : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rWRK6ubct1g
.....or as a starting idea , at : www.besslerwheel.com/forum/download.php?id=15759
.....so to test a gravity (self) unbalanced mechanism(wheel)
     Al_ex
Title: Re: The impossible wheel...
Post by: tagor on March 02, 2016, 03:41:48 PM
.....as an imaginative proposal , at : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rWRK6ubct1g (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rWRK6ubct1g)
.....or as a starting idea , at : www.besslerwheel.com/forum/download.php?id=15759 (http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/download.php?id=15759)
.....so to test a gravity (self) unbalanced mechanism(wheel)
     Al_ex

why so many threads for so many devices not working ?
Title: Re: The impossible wheel...
Post by: AB Hammer on March 02, 2016, 05:40:26 PM
why so many threads for so many devices not working ?

That is simple tagor

 The more wheels we know that won't work save time on finding something that does. It simply allows fresh ideas.

Alan
Title: Re: The impossible wheel...
Post by: John.K1 on March 02, 2016, 07:35:28 PM
Yes, Impossible wheel is a right name for it. It is not possible to work as it shown. It will find balance position very easy. Let me guess ,it will stop close to the position as on the picture below ;)  (just a rough guess)
Title: Re: The impossible wheel...
Post by: tagor on March 03, 2016, 08:46:25 AM
That is simple tagor

 The more wheels we know that won't work save time on finding something that does. It simply allows fresh ideas.

Alan
it is not what i said
you can put all these wheels in one thread , it is easiest to search !
Title: Re: The impossible wheel...
Post by: Temporal Visitor on March 03, 2016, 12:50:26 PM
.....as an imaginative proposal , at : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rWRK6ubct1g
.....or as a starting idea , at : www.besslerwheel.com/forum/download.php?id=15759
.....so to test a gravity (self) unbalanced mechanism(wheel)
     Al_ex

The "imaginative proposal" could work: IF one devised a practical method of keeping the weights as shown. Unfortunately nothing I am aware of has come to anyone's mind for doing so as of yet.

On the other hand however the "starting idea" is similar to one I worked with to learn the how, what, and why of Matter in motion, and what does and does not work IS. This "starting idea" IS one that can take you on a long journey of your own during which you will learn plenty that is not in books or taught at universities.

It is a great stepping stone, not an easy one - but one of many for you to discover for yourself.

How do I "know"? = Been there - done that ..... years ago, see the photo proof.  ;D

Just kept on going to better, and much more practical power plants that WORK .

Title: Re: The impossible wheel...
Post by: citfta on March 03, 2016, 01:23:09 PM
Hi Temporal Visitor,

Would your idea that worked be anything like the Skinner machine?  Of all the ideas for a gravity powered machine that is the only one I have seen that looked like it could really work and produce usable power.

Carroll
Title: Re: The impossible wheel...
Post by: Temporal Visitor on March 03, 2016, 01:38:04 PM
Hi Temporal Visitor,

Would your idea that worked be anything like the Skinner machine?  Of all the ideas for a gravity powered machine that is the only one I have seen that looked like it could really work and produce usable power.

Carroll

Hi Carroll,

No not at all like the Skinner machine. Much simpler and I am past "gravity machines" because of the very limited gains that CAN BE REALIZED from huge amounts of mass REQUIRED at low enough velocities to be worked with by the "average Joe"

Personally I do not see Skinner types being practical. (But I never knew of them until long after getting past "gravity machines" and am not really looking back.)

Moreover, not simply "an idea that worked": rather an entire technology to be learned and worked with.
Title: Re: The impossible wheel...
Post by: citfta on March 03, 2016, 01:53:09 PM
Do you have a thread about that technology or is this something you would rather not make public at this time?
Title: Re: The impossible wheel...
Post by: Temporal Visitor on March 03, 2016, 02:07:07 PM
Do you have a thread about that technology or is this something you would rather not make public at this time?

Honestly I don't recall starting a thread here - but I may have a few years ago.

A more direct method is here: http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/contact.html

"make public at this time?" = Time grows shorter by the day and waits for no one.
Title: Re: The impossible wheel...
Post by: iacob alex on March 03, 2016, 03:12:19 PM
.....at : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impossible_wheel
           https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicycle
           https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walk_cycle
...and a multitude of gravity self-powered wheels?
           Al_ex
Title: Re: The impossible wheel...
Post by: Paul-R on March 03, 2016, 03:47:36 PM
The more wheels we know that won't work save time on finding something that does.
This "method" is worthless.

The number of useless wheels is infinite. By the time this method works, the Sun will have expanded to the point where the Earth is burnt to a cinder.
Title: Re: The impossible wheel...
Post by: AB Hammer on March 03, 2016, 04:45:57 PM
This "method" is worthless.

The number of useless wheels is infinite. By the time this method works, the Sun will have expanded to the point where the Earth is burnt to a cinder.

Paul-R

 Worthless is the same wheels being built over and over and all claiming success on failed project. As in a field of traps it is better to know where the traps are than keep stepping in them.



Temporal Visitor

 Nice construction.

Title: Re: The impossible wheel...
Post by: Temporal Visitor on June 17, 2016, 02:35:29 PM
Paul-R

 Worthless is the same wheels being built over and over and all claiming success on failed project. As in a field of traps it is better to know where the traps are than keep stepping in them.



Temporal Visitor

 Nice construction.

Didn't see this until today.
You are quite correct.
Thanks for the kind words.
Title: Re: The impossible wheel...
Post by: AB Hammer on June 18, 2016, 03:42:16 AM
Temporal Visitor

 Well Better late than never. I have some new wheels that will be out soon after I finish up my armor season. I hope to open up some eyes and shut some mouths.


Alan