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ResinRat2

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Re: Common batteries are free energy sources
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2006, 06:33:19 PM »
Thanks Kreten33,

Sorry everyone, I guess I'm very new to this overunity stuff. I didn't realize that this is a well known Tesla Switch concept that is all over the net. Now I feel like I just wasted people's time and I wasted space here on this forum. Next time somebody please stop me.

Interesting experiment though, I'm going to try a few of my own (with small Ni-Cad batteries) just for grins. Go back to the important things you are doing everyone. Thanks.

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Re: Common batteries are free energy sources
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2006, 06:45:37 PM »
ResinRat2,

I apologize for interrupting your thread. Not sure what else I should have done when I see someone who repeatedly posts disinfo.

Regards,
Paul Lowrance

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Re: Common batteries are free energy sources
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2006, 08:19:12 PM »
If you have actually read Teslas original manuscripts, you would know tesla stated in no uncertain terms that if no energy is radiated(resistance-heat-light-RF) then a resonant system will increase in energy as it is added(think superconductors).He also patented an apparatus for supercooling resonant transformers with this in mind as he stated in that patent. As well Tesla mentioned that a purely inductive resonant system with no losses can consume no energy, the shuttling of energy would be perpetual-as conventional physics is in compete agreement with. The bigger problem I see with this battery shuttling scheme is halfwits using non-rechargable 6volt lantern batteries and resistive loads and then crying we have all been decieved, it does not work,burn the witch-burn the witch!! I call this the moron-factor, persons stating opinion as fact, having no research into the matter and being absolutely clueless as to the working principal. I think we can do better than this-Im hoping anyways.

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Re: Common batteries are free energy sources
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2006, 08:54:28 PM »
After finally reading all the posts I can see we definately need some guidelines.
1)under no circumstances should you use a resistive load,NO light bulbs,NO light bulbs,NO light bulbs, it does not work! If any energy is radiated it is gone.
Induction loads only-pulsed conventional DC motor,pulsed coils-no transformers
2)When using pulsed induction loads you have Bemf to deal with,current flow is always forward so a blocking diode should route current from the common negative terminal between the two batteries and the single battery and should terminate inbetween the switch after the two batteries and the load. In this way when the switch is open the Bemf current is moving in a direction to charge only the single battery after the load,it is called load isolation.
3)large wires, large inductances, small duration pulses(low duty cycle),If there is any heat reduce pulse length or increase time between pulses,
4) use relay to switch circuit on and off powered from a seperate circuit so you can measure switching losses seperately. a relay uses the same amount of energy regardless of the load it is switching and handles voltage spikes better.
If you do this you will see the way this circuit is SUPPOSED to work.

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Re: Common batteries are free energy sources
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2006, 09:32:44 PM »
allcanadian,

Thanks for the input. I've come to the conclusion that after reading what you posted, I'm out of my element  :-[ and am going to stick to Chemistry.

No sense wasting my time and rehashing what is already known.

Eyes up everybody. Read what he has to say and don't get hurt.

Good luck all.

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Re: Common batteries are free energy sources
« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2006, 10:40:27 PM »
As a chemist-a person knowing the scientific process im sure you could do this in your sleep. I realize my last posts may sound condescending, and I don't mean them to be, it just gets really irritating seeing so my people screw this up so badly. I blame this on Mr.Bedini for putting info on the net so generalized it is near useless, if fact it does more harm than good because it is designed to fail as most of his posts are. There is no magic here only requirements, criteria needing to be fulfilled before this technology works, I outlined everyone I know of, the choice to build it and learn what tesla knew is yours to make.
In any case I wish you luck

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Re: Common batteries are free energy sources
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2006, 01:15:03 AM »
allcanadian,

Thanks for the input. I've come to the conclusion that after reading what you posted, I'm out of my element  :-[ and am going to stick to Chemistry.

No sense wasting my time and rehashing what is already known.

Eyes up everybody. Read what he has to say and don't get hurt.

Good luck all.

As a researcher who wishes he understood more about chemistry, I have a interesting suggestion for you to research. Try looking arround for information on hutcinsons q-cell or "hyroshima cell". It gives off low voltage and low amperage but it does so with no losses in a non redux cell. Both anode and cathode are aluminum, but there is Rochell salt, CaCO3, and exotic Si compounds chained between anode and cathode acting like an electrolyte. Quite interesting and it has some very convincing evidence behind it. I feel it would be a perfect OU/FE/ZPE research project for a polymer chemist like yourself. Perhaps if you become interested you can use your research facilities to properly develope the layered elecrolyte like we've seen in Lithium polymer cells.

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Re: Common batteries are free energy sources
« Reply #37 on: November 04, 2006, 01:24:48 AM »
ARRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here we go again! Another crook!!!!!  >:(

This kind of stuff is really making me lose faith in humanity.

Thanks for the info  :'(



I have also started feeling like there are far too many con men out there just trying to make a dollar, and the worst part is those who really do discover funtioning OU/FE/ZPE devices fall in to the same pit falls. Rather then giving away the technology and progressing society they try to make money from it and no one invests, till a supressor buys them out, then its time to say goodbye to the technology in question forever. People need to realize that money wont matter half as much when the energy revolution comes. As a matter of fact if I discovered a OU device I would sell clean power back to the grid, and drain the power hungry energy corporations of all their cash. If inventors could just realize spreading the technology is #1 and the money is #2, the better off we all would be. Unfortunately the patent system ruins the potential of that thought ever crossing a inventors mind.

As for all the scam artists who might read this...  >:(
F(_)CK Y0U, DON'T YOU REALIZE YOU ARE SLOWLY RUINING THIS SCIENCE? WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM? TOO STUPID TO GET A REAL JOB, IS IT REALY EASIER TO ROB PEOPLE OF THEIR HOPES DREAMS AND MONEY?!?!?!?!?! So in short I hope the scammers/disinformation agents die and fail miserably in life. As a matter of fact if I ever got the chance I would love to use a free energy device to torture a scammer with electroshock... It would be quite ironic you must admit. LOL!

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Re: Common batteries are free energy sources
« Reply #38 on: November 04, 2006, 01:53:25 AM »
As a matter of fact if I ever got the chance I would love to use a free energy device to torture a scammer with electroshock... It would be quite ironic you must admit. LOL!

dude chill out, sometimes people just don't know any better.  :)

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Re: Common batteries are free energy sources
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2006, 01:46:24 AM »
Hello,

I began testing on the 3 rotation batteries system 2 days ago. I have been working on the device on and off and  today i have started the machine at around 9h00 am  it is now 7h30 pm,  the device is still working on the same rechargeable batteries. I did not have time to take good reading on it but i can tell you that i have switched the batteries 3 time today and the system was recharging the used batteries.
The 3 volts motor draws about .32 amps. I can't connect diodes at the end of those low voltage batteries cause they draw to much juice (.06 to .08 volts)
Anyway, so far, so good. Only time will tell if this system works.
Let you know later about my progress.

Regards    Joe

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Re: Common batteries are free energy sources
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2006, 06:07:13 AM »
Hi Joe,
this probably will only work,
if you switch the setup between
the 2:1 and 1:2 battery setup
back and forth pretty fast.

The idea behind it is not to give
the electrolyte enough time to move inside
the battery, but external electrons, cause
they are smaller and lighter, to move...

So better pulse the setup back and
forth with relays and see, how much longer
you can get it to last...
or use the motor to drive a simple selfmade
commutator, which will switch back and forth.

Many thanks.
Am looking forward to your results.
Stefan.

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Re: Common batteries are free energy sources
« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2006, 08:47:44 AM »
im not sure exactly but i remember reading something about making the terminals of a battery longer/extended and then you would wrap coil around it - something to do with the earth's magnetic field and the sky's magnetic field working together with the battery setup. im not sure but it was something like that.

anyone heard about something like this before?

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Re: Common batteries are free energy sources
« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2006, 11:49:43 AM »
He Joe.
Silicon Diode dof 0,6 to 0,8 Volt  (even 1 volt if "surged" maximal Power.

Take Scottky Diodes 0,3 -0.5 Volts drop  (from old Computer power Supply (for example)

Or Germanium Diodes (gold bondes diodes) as 1N270 enz.
(you find it in als Computer Platines fro 20 jears ago - or take aold Germaniumtansistors . Collector and Base - Connection only  (GE-Transistor you find easyly.

Germanium Devices hav an Vo?tage Drop fro 0,1 to 0,3 Volts

Pese

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Re: Common batteries are free energy sources
« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2006, 01:19:15 PM »
A good reference on Tesla 4-battery setup (and Bedini mods) is available at http://www.web-space.tv/free-energy/, select 'Devices Part3' or just click http://www.web-space.tv/free-energy/D3.pdf if you don't want to browse the rest of the excellent material.

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Re: Common batteries are free energy sources
« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2006, 04:28:12 PM »
Hi Joe,

what is the capacity of all three batteries ? You will need this for your calculation. Also you must do a permanent  monitorig of the motor power-consumption.

Kator