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Author Topic: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water  (Read 78652 times)

Sergh

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #75 on: September 03, 2019, 09:46:57 AM »
But the energy balance remains the same. How many calories of heat were spent on dissociation, the same amount we get during combustion HHO.  Or am I wrong?
From SU807584 patent, about ordinary thermal dissociation of water:
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The disadvantage of this method is the need for overheating of water vapor to 1000- 3000K and a low molar concentration of hydrogen in hot steam. At 1000 degrees Kelvin, the molar  concentration of hydrogen is 2.09*10-6, which leads to insurmountable difficulties in the extraction of hydrogen.
In this case, the energy balance is maintained. If thermal dissociation of water occurred at a temperature of 400 - 500 degrees Celsius and a much larger hydrogen output, the energy balance will not be maintained.
 It is still unclear why thermal dissociation can occur at low temperatures and better than at high temperatures.

kolbacict

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #76 on: September 04, 2019, 07:39:23 PM »
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If thermal dissociation of water occurred at a temperature of 400 - 500 degrees Celsius and a much larger hydrogen output, the energy balance will not be maintained.
I tried to say it on the forum "xumuk.ru " , but I did not convince them.


Sergh

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #78 on: January 29, 2021, 09:46:08 PM »
meta(L?) colloide, nanotechnology is difficult, or? home production of platinum catalyst

 platinum foil, acid, and probably cat litter (maybe I'm not quite right)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjB9JnFRkG4
good German to learn

 application - HHO heating without burning, at best.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN8wCRloJ2c
 

kolbacict

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #79 on: February 03, 2021, 07:51:33 PM »
If we have water in a container made of barium titanate with one outer lining? :)

Sergh

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #80 on: February 03, 2021, 09:26:08 PM »
There are probably no specific frequencies. It's not about frequency.

New video of Petros Zografos, recently found on the Internet. 10/19/2020
Must watch this video in full. There is something interesting in the middle of the video.
In small jars, it presents substances, components of "metal" and (or) colloids.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2JHXIfn0Qc

 Nanotechnology.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanotechnology

kolbacict

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #81 on: February 06, 2021, 08:53:18 PM »
I asked a question on "xumuk.ru" what the German wanted to say in his video.
There was no answer. Probably no one knows German. :D

kolbacict

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #82 on: February 24, 2021, 03:38:24 PM »
I wanted to measure the real capacity of the water cell. It was not possible to balance the Wheatstone bridge with only one capacitor. I had to add a resistor.

kolbacict

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #83 on: February 27, 2021, 10:13:35 AM »
Where did the patents and information on thin layer degradation go?

kolbacict

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #84 on: February 28, 2021, 07:56:35 PM »
The second plate in the cell is made of barium titanate? The dielectric constant is orders of magnitude higher than that of water. For alternating current not an obstacle.

kolbacict

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #85 on: March 17, 2021, 07:56:17 AM »
You are talking about the need for thin layers, films.
But there is a double electrical layer near the electrode.
Isn't the entire electric field concentrated there?

Acca

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #86 on: March 18, 2021, 02:08:51 AM »
About 2 years ago I studied the Zographos videos and in one video he had a spectrum analyzer the display had shown the the upper end of a 300 Ghz. which was quite a shock to me as I worked on radars on slightly lower frequencies.. In the glass test test tube he had placed a small metal plate. Some of the invited scientist passed around the small metal square plate, they where quite surprised, as the device would not work with out the metal square plate in the test tube.. and some years earlier another RF guy John Kanzius used an RF exciter 13.75 Mhz to split water in between two antennas again in a test tube with a tissue immersed wick and the gas would light the wick with a yellow flame as Zographos did it on Greek TV for hours at a time.  The point is that RF in it's self break's up water bonds, the question is what frequency is the best and what modulation is needed to do that.. Now I have split water with RF at 750 KHhz as using a Russian Tesla coil (katcher) a single transistor RF oscillator with some 10 watts of power and was surprised that it worked as it involved high frequency diodes and a test tube. I will post a video later of that..In closing I am surprised that Zographos is still around with incredible knowledge that he has amassed in his RF field in Cell phones.. SO I have posted here on another thread today about this New Zealand company they also have a cheap way of splitting water and it is 20 times less than the conventional electrolysis RF may be a contender as well as graphene.. This none of these tech(s) will NOT see the light of the day, unless it is opened sourced to the people..

Acca..

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #87 on: March 18, 2021, 07:46:57 AM »

Hello
Sascha Schmitz produces platinum-plated sand. He wants to build a sand heater with it. See in the 2nd video. The HHo gas ignites when blown into this sand.
Greeting
Lota

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #88 on: March 18, 2021, 07:59:00 AM »
Why actually kacher?  It gives out high voltage. And water is a conductor. They don't like each other.
How to put high voltage into water?
Probably platinum catalyzes the reaction HHO. similar to the oxidation of ammonia to nitrogen dioxide on a platinum wire.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #89 on: March 18, 2021, 03:50:03 PM »
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The point is that RF in it's self break's up water bonds, the question is what frequency is the best and what modulation is needed to do that..
Why can't I get anything
for several years ?!