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Author Topic: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water  (Read 10071 times)

Offline Acca

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2018, 07:50:50 PM »
Sergh thanks for the Russian patent link it was very helpful, there is more than way to split water below the 4.2 Kw m3 cu. RF is the way Zografos uses that way. I am suspecting that Ag ionic solution in water is added to water, as I am formulating the ppm of Ag in ppm is needed to make that effect . In the videos of P.Z. he drinks the water as it has to be safe for him to drink. As to metals P.Z. adds to the test tube is there for resonance as one needs a beat frequency as a base to create a oscillations to split water.  Not a standing wave but a "superposition" wave.. P.Z. spectrum display shows that the frequency is in the 250 to 350 GHZ. so it has to be a harmonic of the lower frequency which is indicated by the size of the wave guide .. as to prevent HHO from falling back to a lower energy level one has to maintain that oscillations as shown in the video where P.Z. shuts off the RF and the flame goes out.  I am certain that John Kanzius had the right method, however he was not at the right resonance , 13. Mhz is the industrial set aside frequency that is aviable to most sputtering systems and you may want to be else where say at 200. Mhz like the Coleman patent to generate alpha and beta...  I will post some clips like the method the Herman Anderson has dome spark oscillations.. See his clip as the end is priceless it's there PWM sparks from a motorized automotive distributor that can be controlled by varying speed of the frequency some what Bob Boyce did with the half wave failed six diode bank in his alternator.


Acca.  keep on as Zografos will save Greece from the robber banksters..

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2018, 09:00:07 AM »
what is the actual effect of the pressure in the cell on the production of gas?
in the well-known Faraday formula, there is neither temperature nor pressure

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2018, 08:35:17 PM »
Where is Sergh ? This is for him.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2018, 09:36:05 AM »
The original article mentions THz; the photo show 17-26GHz. Care to explain?
https://youtu.be/NFv3LYeaFSc?t=4088

In this video, at 1:06:00, we are seeing a Tektronix 494 spectrum analyzer. It can display a signal spectrum up to 325 GHz.             
But...(!) It can do this correctly only with additional external mixers WM490. The mixer consists of a waveguide and a special mixing diode installed in it, which receives the frequency from the heterodyne (local oscillator) in the spectrum analyzer. Without this external mixer, this spectrum analyzer can display signals up to 21 GHz.
https://nscainc.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/TEK_492BP.pdf

    Tektronix WM490 mixers set:


http://w140.com/tekwiki/wiki/WM490

A coaxial cable to this mixer must be plugged into the connector at the bottom in the center. But in the Zogrfos video this connector is not connected to anything.

The connector on the bottom right is designed to measure without a external mixer up to 21 GHz.    In this coaxial connector is inserted a crocodile clip (?... :o ), to which a common wire is connected. :-\     This is not good, but with a high sensitivity of the spectrum analyzer it may be enough to estimate the presence of a microwave..

 http://www.thegleam.com/ke5fx/auctions/main_lg.jpg
What was the real frequency if the Tektronix 494 spectrum analyzer displays ~ 289 - 325 GHz on the screen without mixer? Who has such a device? Please сheck it.
I guess it shows a frequency of about 20 GHz.
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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2019, 11:31:56 AM »

Translation of text in Greek, which is printed above the circuits:
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it would be possible to project the non-element of the hydrogen element based on the lack of luster, which characterizes metals. However, we can call the hydrogen as an amorphous gas, as we could call gaseous metal KCO mercury and / or lead and zinc and any metal if and on Earth , what happens to the Sun and other sparkling stars, where the temperature is such that all the bodies are in a gaseous state.
This is about the fact that hydrogen, oddly enough, is a metal:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metallic_hydrogen

I do not know how this fact can help.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2019, 05:31:55 PM »
the clown knows.  :)

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2019, 09:28:51 AM »
Well, as we know, each higher harmonic in power is weaker . If we assume that we pump something else with a low frequency. Gigahertz there will be a cat crying. :)
one more, in the pictures of any devices there, we see a very large difference in the absorption of matter at the resonant frequency, compared to other frequencies. In radio engineering, this corresponds to an oscillatory system with high Q-factor. Is not it? Is it possible to use water itself as a resonator, and not to generate microwave energy from the outside and launch (direct) it into water?

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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2019, 11:31:16 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrs5_qOeOAQ

This work as transmitting antenna:

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2019, 10:21:11 AM »
What is dimension your replication ?

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« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2019, 10:07:23 PM »
The dimensions are approximately the same as in the video from Petros Zografos.
To determine the size I used as sample the white cable that is present in the video. Very roughly.
Transmission lines 16 millimeters, "wings" 22 millimeters by 6 millimeters. The base material is the microwave Teflon 2,5 mm thick. 
Due to the large thickness of dielectric base the line width is increased.I tried to install this antenna near the flange of the waveguide or near the detector diode. The amplitude of the received signal increases significantly.I was planning to solder a Gunn diode in the center hole, but it overheated during soldering.It is a pity that a diode of this size was only one at these frequencies.  I have such diodes for higher frequencies. I will try later with it, it will be soldered with the Rose alloy.
I found interesting Greek article about experiments with underwater communication in the microwave range, from a city called Zografos  :o :
Thomas Κ. Mpountas, DimitraI. Kaklamani
National Technical University of Athens
School of Electrical and Computer Engineering
9 IroonPolytechniouStr., 15780 Zografos, Athens, Greece

https://www.e-fermat.org/files/communication/Alvertos-COMM-2017-Vol20-Mar.-Apr.-018.pdf

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #26 on: April 13, 2019, 10:11:37 AM »
My guess is that at the same time is need a microwave and a low-frequency magnetic field and special conditions, the composition of the liquid. Magnetic and microwave fields are required in the same way as in the NMR tomograph. NMR tomograph has not only a superconducting magnet, but also gradient coils, creating a gradient magnetic field, that forms a 3D image. In addition, a high-frequency field is needed at the resonant frequency of the substance, which absorbs the RF signal only on a narrow gradient of a certain magnetization.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2019, 03:38:04 PM »
Here I am about the same. Why everyone wants to introduce microwave energy from the air. waveguide or coaxial. Inside the water, without leaving the water, what prevents to do this?

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« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2019, 09:38:28 PM »
I tried. Don't work. The generator does not start, or works very poorly. Water absorbs energy and the generator does not produce power. Probably needed other  antennas and generators to create HF vibrations directly in the water. But all components are designed to work with RF transmission in air.


See graphic curves in a Greek article about underwater WiFi communication:

https://www.e-fermat.org/files/communication/Alvertos-COMM-2017-Vol20-Mar.-Apr.-018.pdf
At frequencies of 20 - 24 GHz, everything is absolutely bad.
Microwave hardly penetrates into highly purified deionized water. Must hope only on the surface of the water. By the way, Petros seems so. In the video with a Bow-Tie antenna.

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Re: HHO Generation using High Frequency electromagnetic waves on water
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2019, 04:28:42 PM »
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I tried. Don't work. The generator does not start, or works very poorly.
something I do not understand, in this case, what could be wifi under water.?

p.s. https://overunity.com/16440/hho-generation-using-high-frequency-electromagnetic-waves-on-water/dlattach/attach/169242/
Has anyone looked at this?

 

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