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Author Topic: I have a proven model I built. I am looking for like minded people who know more  (Read 51949 times)

Temporal Visitor

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Temporal Visitor and MeGaFaRR should talk to each other about who got the strange idea first.

The contents of this page http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/evidence.html sound a lot like the "document" from MeGaFaRR.

But I think that MeGaFaRR is more of a world saviour than Temporal Visitor. Temporal Visitor just throws his "gift" at the world and does not really want to save it.

On the other hand, Temporal Visitor has a physics teacher lay vocation.

Greetings, Conrad

Hello Conrad,
I am Michael Frost, a very much humbled servant made in the image of my Creator = not a Savior.

If you had actually read my entire website you might "know" more about me, my intent and my WORK, I.e.: from my page http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/knowledge.html

"KEY II.9 UNDERSTAND I know am merely a man like yourself and with all the same shortcomings of any man alive. Yes I claim to have some answers that can help man reshape our “energy” needs and understanding of how to access two of Natures forces in ways that are beneficial to both man and Nature Without violating any law. But I am not making any claim to be a savior of any kind nor do I pretend to be.

As such sharing beyond what I am attempting to freely share here is a task far beyond my own financial ability besides that of physically typing it all out, let alone doing the manufacture of the parts required for you. I can only offer you an honest accounting of my life’s work, and the drawings of many advanced machine designs yet to be constructed and validated by yourself because these machines have never in recorded History been constructed.  They are original thought.

Like anyone else alive without some means of support and help from other men who offer to assist in whatever manner for whatever they reason they feel is the driving force in their life I and this effort to share much more of True hard learned Knowledge will fail and the warm glow of this computer with fade into the mist of Time. As always any decision to help further share in these efforts or reject them like everything in life rests with you."

So rest assured I'm not even trying to save the world. It is not my job.

Teachers typically get paid, and I don't mind WORKING FOR A LIVING, teaching what I do have knowledge about.

http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/freedom.html

Dog-One

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From this page:  http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/energy.html
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Understand this process does require a constant input of power, and its output cannot be used as the input. Don't believe - try it, you will learn something.

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The motors do not care where electricity comes from and generators do not care where their electricity goes.

Which statement is true, first or second?


mscoffman

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A high efficiency synchronous AC motor will run at synchronous idle speed almost for free, but when
it is slowed down it begins drawing energy from utility line. So when two flywheels are coupled they
will share the rotational momentum stored energy between themselves and the composite will slow
down below line synchronous speed. The energy shared between them will be minus any energy lost
to a friction clutch. This loss may well be very low in a magnetic clutch. But then new energy will be
needed be added to get the composite flywheel system back up to line synchronous speed of
3500RPM.  This energy is translated by the motor from utility line to mechanical energy. A one
HP motor is only a one HP motor when it is supplied with one horse power worth of load.

I notice the calculations in your paper you do not show any of this...Why would you feel this process
is overunity, if you do not show with mathematics that it is?

sm0ky2

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Which statement is true, first or second?

They are both true.

While a motor or generator is not affected outside itself, drawing more load, or driving more input - DOES affect them
because the electricity must go THROUGH the motor or generator after it arrives or before it goes anywhere!!.

The math is equivalent (minus losses) from either perspective.

I could break this device down piece by piece and explain to this gentleman why I do not think it will work as described.
but that would take away from the learning experience of both builder and readers.

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@ MegaFarr

Thank you for your update and video. Looking forward to the progress on your build.



conradelektro

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As such sharing beyond what I am attempting to freely share here is a task far beyond my own financial ability besides that of physically typing it all out, let alone doing the manufacture of the parts required for you. I can only offer you an honest accounting of my life’s work, and the drawings of many advanced machine designs yet to be constructed and validated by yourself because these machines have never in recorded History been constructed.  They are original thought.

I leave you to your original thoughts. Everyone should realise by himself his own original thoughts. Your thoughts are for you not for me, I would not want to intrude.

Why do think anybody would like to build your original thoughts?

Greetings, Conrad

Temporal Visitor

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I leave you to your original thoughts. Everyone should realise by himself his own original thoughts. Your thoughts are for you not for me, I would not want to intrude.

Why do think anybody would like to build your original thoughts?

Greetings, Conrad

If you are being truthful: why do you then ask me for my thought while you tell everyone else what you "think"?

Temporal Visitor

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They are both true.

While a motor or generator is not affected outside itself, drawing more load, or driving more input - DOES affect them
because the electricity must go THROUGH the motor or generator after it arrives or before it goes anywhere!!.

The math is equivalent (minus losses) from either perspective.

I could break this device down piece by piece and explain to this gentleman why I do not think it will work as described.
but that would take away from the learning experience of both builder and readers.

Nice answer, one I could add to; but would prefer to first read your breakdown and learn where to go first from there.

Dog-One

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They are both true.

Okay, that satisfies my curiosity.  What you have is a device that accumulates real power over an extended period of time and is then dumped to a load doing real work for a short period of time.  Zero sum and as Michael has stated, is not an overunity device, since it does not harness external power from the environment.  In other words, it cannot ever be a self running device.  Makes sense to me.  Not sure why anyone would get overly excited about it.

Temporal Visitor

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Okay, that satisfies my curiosity.  What you have is a device that accumulates real power over an extended period of time and is then dumped to a load doing real work for a short period of time.  Zero sum and as Michael has stated, is not an overunity device, since it does not harness external power from the environment.  In other words, it cannot ever be a self running device.  Makes sense to me.  Not sure why anyone would get overly excited about it.

"does not harness external power from the environment." REALLY???: Please explain to me precisely where Kinetic energy manifests and where you suppose it comes from.

"In other words, it cannot ever be a self running device." = False assumption.

TinselKoala

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Not a false assumption at all. It's a TRUE FACT until you prove otherwise by demonstrating something built from your designs that runs itself.

Where does kinetic energy "manifest" and where does it come from? Are you kidding? It comes from your power supply and "manifests" as mass in motion. You get out what you put in, minus losses, and in your designs, the losses are massive.

ARMCORTEX

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What about all those motors with Flywheel and overunity claimers that WERE built, all across the world.

How does your theory explain those?

I fail to see your sincerity in trying to understand how all those BUILT motors worked.

Krstan Pejic, he has a motor that is better than yours, and built.


sm0ky2

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What about all those motors with Flywheel and overunity claimers that WERE built, all across the world.

How does your theory explain those?

I fail to see your sincerity in trying to understand how all those BUILT motors worked.

Krstan Pejic, he has a motor that is better than yours, and built.

they DId work!!!
at least until their inventors disappeared, or died of mysterious causes,
and all their friends and relatives forgot how exactly to built them....
or the oil companies bought up all the patent rights...
or the government stole them under the guise of national security...


you see,.. that's why we don't have them today......


AlienGrey

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Well i have never seen a device that works so far, seen loads of stuff with hiden wires though, and a fly wheel winds down !

AlienGrey

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Not a false assumption at all. It's a TRUE FACT until you prove otherwise by demonstrating something built from your designs that runs itself.

Where does kinetic energy "manifest" and where does it come from? Are you kidding? It comes from your power supply and "manifests" as mass in motion. You get out what you put in, minus losses, and in your designs, the losses are massive.

If you know an one with one does it work any better with a redesign and Neo magnets fitted ?

sm0ky2

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If you know any one with one does it work any better with a redesign and Neo magnets fitted ?

Historically speaking, all PM machines "will work better with the next redesign"
and "adding more powerful magnets" is always a good idea!!