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Author Topic: I have a proven model I built. I am looking for like minded people who know more  (Read 51939 times)

MeGaFaRR

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Now this is what anyone who has posted anything about this topic on any media gets

"I doubt that you or anyone ever has"

So my response has always been:

"Thank you!! You are exactly what I needed to prove a point.
How many people would rather be the latest in a long line of sheep to yell "You can't do that, it's impossible" because that is what the establishment has taught us through the wonderful educational system they have created, would want us to yell. This will keep the unbelievable status quo we have achieved that has worked so well for so few for so long.
Or would you rather be part of the few and be someone who believes that the future of mankind could look a bit brighter for the many and say "yeah maybe that's possible, let's see what we can do to do that" and then get your hands dirty.
I'd rather be part of the few.
So if you have nothing to add please don't.
Thanks "

But as I said I have a proven model and I will be announcing it to the world. I really do hope that this works for the many, somehow betters the world for the many, and the few don't get theirs greedy little paws on it and not share it.

MeGaFaRR

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Hello all, I'm Frank from Canada I am looking today to find like minded people who are interested in over unity machines. I have looked far and wide on the Internet and found so many reason why they won't work but I have yet to find any info that relates to an overunity machine I have designed. It is so simple in design that no one wants to believe me that it works. It is a simple math formula and design that reduces the input needed to rotate flywheels and/or to increase the output of flywheels. It has been built and tested my myself and my associate but since neither of us have a degree in physics, it needs to be tested and validated by someone with one. I found this website when I tried posting on a NASA site about overunity machines. I'm always looking for knowledgable people woho know a thing or two about this subject.
As a child, I thought about this long and hard how to do this. As I discussed it with many people throughout my life, I was always told "It's Impossible". So I finally built it and proved to myself it works and is "Totally Possible", all I need now is to validate my machine as it is not a theory anymore. I will be posting a copy of my machines plans in a bit, so keep watching and help with input if you can.

e2matrix

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Best of luck with what you have.   I would strongly suggest you study well how to release such info or device so that it is not made to disappear, be stolen, bought out, threatened out of existence or otherwise pushed into oblivion.   There are some downloads here with several pages of dozens of inventors who most probably had some great devices and those papers show how everyone of them was made to go away.   Take a look at these downloads from here:
http://overunity.com/downloads/sa/view/down/480/

http://overunity.com/downloads/sa/view/down/553/

http://overunity.com/downloads/sa/view/down/554/

http://overunity.com/downloads/sa/view/down/555/

e2matrix

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Yes open sourcing the plans is a good idea and since you have announced that you have such a device built it would be wise to put up the plans as soon as possible.  It might be good to upload them to a number of places.   www.energeticforum is another big energy research forum and also http://www.overunityresearch.com both have good people on those forums.   I would suggest staying anonymous for now and possibly putting a heavily encrypted message in along with your plans that would identify you as the inventor so if anyone else tries to claim it you can ask them to decrypt the message which they won't be able to do.  Things may not really need to be so cloak and dagger but such a device may draw huge attention if it truly works.   And some of that attention will try to stop it. 

conradelektro

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But as I said I have a proven model and I will be announcing it to the world.

Announcing the announcement! Why not show it straight away?

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So I finally built it and proved to myself it works and is "Totally Possible", all I need now is to validate my machine as it is not a theory anymore. I will be posting a copy of my machines plans in a bit, so keep watching and help with input if you can.

Well, plans are fine. Why not post measurements and the machine itself. Is a video showing the measurements to difficult to post on YouTube? It does not take a physics degree to do basic measurements. And if you show a comprehensible video of your contraption and also show in the video how you do measurements, most questions could be answered immediately. One could also give advice on how to do the measurements better.
   
We have heard enough talk in this forum. If you want to have an audience show something substantial. Show something real and spare us the talk!

If you want to keep a secret, shut up. Any idle talk (without substance) is useless for you and for us.

Greetings, Conrad

MeGaFaRR

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As I am a 58 yr. old gentlemen who has barely has an idea on how to follow this string of comments as it has taken 3 days to set up this conversation, I don't think I'll be encrypting anything soon. Lol. But I do think I'm ready to share so please copy and share yourself all of you so that this will get out there and change the world for the better. I am including my file on how my machine works!! So get copies of this file out there as soon as possible. Please and thanks again
Again I am proving my incompetence with computers. Lol I cannot add file from my apple crap I am logged on. I will be right back on a laptop and then will post my proven theory.
made it back and here goes
Try one more time  lol
definitely cannot encrypt anything. its taken me all day to get this far just to post this file.

MeGaFaRR

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Reply to Conrad: What we don't need is ignorance from people like you to mouth off. As i stated before i was posting my concept. Which, by the way, is proven, so thanks for the support.
GO EAT IT.  LOL

MeGaFaRR

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To all "naysayers" the problem with posting ASAP is all I have is this laptop with no "Microsoft Word" or any other programs that have the capabilities of saving a PDF or DOC or any other program that is uploadable with this site. Also my crappy IPad can not do it either. so ive spent the better part of the day just trying to get it to you guys.
Again GO EAT IT
Thanks
Frank

Dog-One

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Reposted as PDF.

Thank you for sharing Frank.

MeGaFaRR

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so when I tried to log onto:
www.energeticforum
I was told site is unavailable
and then i went to the other site that i was told about and tried to log on:
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=register
I tried to register to post my DOC and I got this:
An Error Has Occurred!
Sorry, registration is currently disabled.
do  you think they are onto me as soon as i posted my DOC on here?
lllllet me know if anyone has gotten a copy of it?

Dog-One

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do  you think they are onto me as soon as i posted my DOC on here?
lllllet me know if anyone has gotten a copy of it?

So I just read your paper and the first thing that occurs to me is timing.  Let me explain...


If the next flywheel in the series takes 30 seconds to come up to speed, but takes 60 seconds (once disconnected) to dump its energy into a load, then you may really be on to something.  However, if the disconnected flywheel dumps it's energy into the load in only 10 seconds, then we have a problem, because we have no way to "charge" these flywheels faster than we "discharge" them.  I'm looking at all this from a power perspective, not energy.  What we are looking for is a device that requires less input power than it can deliver as output.  As has been said many times, timing is everything.

Lets play some numbers...


If you have a 1 HP motor consuming 746 watts, driving these flywheels and I add another flywheel in the sequence, lets suppose it take 60 seconds to "charge" up to full RPM.  Can I in fact now disconnect this last flywheel and drive a generator for a full one minute producing 746 watts of power?  My instinct says no--the flywheel would probably dump its energy in less than 60 seconds or it would dump less than 746 watts of power for the full 60 seconds.  I understand that when we disconnect the last flywheel we could begin "charging" another one.  I still see a hurdle I'm not clear about with your paper.  It looks to me like you have found an optimum sequence for "charging" flywheels, but I just don't see the connection to the "discharging" being able to achieve overunity.  "Power amplification" is all charge-discharge based.  Static rotation doesn't help us any as this is only energy storage, not energy transfer.


gyulasun

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so when I tried to log onto:
www.energeticforum
I was told site is unavailable
and then i went to the other site that i was told about and tried to log on:
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=register
I tried to register to post my DOC and I got this:
An Error Has Occurred!
Sorry, registration is currently disabled.
do  you think they are onto me as soon as i posted my DOC on here?
lllllet me know if anyone has gotten a copy of it?

Hi Frank,

Yes your doc file can be downloaded from this site, no problem.

Regarding the other sites you mentioned, this is a working address to energeticforum, from your link above you omitted the dot(com):
http://www.energeticforum.com/register.php      To get admission needs one or two days over there.           

As far as I know presently there is no possibility to register for new members at overunitresearch.com site:
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=register

Thanks for sharing your idea.

Gyula   

Dog-One

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As far as I know presently there is no possibility to register for new members at overunitresearch.com site:
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=register

Yes, invitation only.

You can however register at OSE if you so desire.

conradelektro

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Reply to Conrad: What we don't need is ignorance from people like you to mouth off. As i stated before i was posting my concept. Which, by the way, is proven, so thanks for the support.
GO EAT IT.  LOL

Ok, I ate your "document" and what I got is words.

Fine, you like words. I do not like words, I prefer working machines.

Well, where is the working machine putting out more energy than one puts in?

Describing a machine does not really make it do anything.

You said,  you have a proven model you built? May be there is at least a photo of this thing?

A proven model which you built has to be more than a "document", it should be something that really spins.

Sorry for being sarcastic or for mouthing off, but it was you who wrote "I have a proven model I built". So, where is the proven model?

I can understand "computer problems", so, tell as in clear words (if you can not post a photo): is there a machine that spins and where is it? Can you do a demonstration of that machine if someone comes to the place where it stands? Can somebody come to the place where the "proven model built by you" stands in order to do measurements?

Greetings, Conrad

MeGaFaRR

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As far as Getting the next flywheel in motion, it usually doesn't take that for one thing. And as far as i can tell that the biggest problem most people have with flywheel technology is disconnecting from motor. And if you read the whole paper, as i don't think you have because as stated in the paper, you NEVER EVER disconnect the motor from "the machine". "The Machine" will always produce more energy then you need to keep this motor Energized thus overunity. So read the complete paper and then:

Do the numbers: then please feel free to add more comments:

If you read the complete paper, you would find that what you are in fact doing is increasing the output of the combined flywheels to reach way over the requirements to keep motor energized and because
1) a motor with flywheels at full speed is not under much load.
2) flywheels rotating at full speed of the motor have approximately usually over 80% in reserved energy from getting it up to speed which is always way more than is required to get the next flywheel in motion and to full speed.
3) "The Machine" is always returning the energy required faster than you lose adding each flywheel.