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Author Topic: I have a proven model I built. I am looking for like minded people who know more  (Read 32070 times)

Offline MeGaFaRR

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To:  memoryman
You are more than welcome to come over with your tape measure. If I cannot start a set of flywheels that weigh 270 lbs to rotate with a 1 hp motor, but when I use my system then I can. If that's not measurements than bring your tape measure. Ok

http://youtu.be/e1a2gGSAztI

http://youtu.be/16B2dpMNV7c

http://youtu.be/KL_ZSrQ5Hf4


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Offline memoryman

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How interesting to use a tape measure for measuring energy...

Offline MeGaFaRR

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Well then bring a bucket of energy and we'll compare yours to mine and we'll see who has more energy?

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Offline memoryman

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If this is humour or sarcasm, it seems to contrary to your intent on the subject.
If it is serious, it deserves no reply. Which is it?

Offline AlienGrey

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This guy has same sort of an idea  Watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgk0HfXhU9M

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Offline Dog-One

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Well then bring a bucket of energy and we'll compare yours to mine and we'll see who has more energy?

Come on Frank, loop that puppy.  You're keeping us in suspense.

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Yes it might be similar to my machine but I have no way of knowing as they don't really explain anything in that video how it would work. But you have to love the fact that they get an expert on this that says "THAT WONT WORK". Lol neither do the government officials know either but they are fine with rejecting his claims because that's what they've all been train to do. GOOD BOYS. Pat pat. So ya I admire the gentleman in this video way more than the so called expert and the government officials.

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Offline MeGaFaRR

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Sorry memoryman:
If you don't know the difference between sarcasm and humor. I'm not sure I could really help you
Have a great day

Offline ARMCORTEX

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I have talked before about disconnecting the Power source before, thanks you for bringing interesting ideas forward.

Do you think your system could be maintained by powerul Impulses once it reaches higher speeds even if there was massive OU drag?

Do you think the clutch effect could somehow be emulated by purpously bad belt effects?

If adding the generator, try modifying the alternator windings, some hearsay that Krstan Pejic does this. This comes from a source who went there to see the man.

But for now, lets talk about your idea, perhaps these are totally unrelated inventions.

The real question, and where you should be concentrating your efforts is in the followeing scenario. With your apparatus, once brought up to speed, and impulses of input power + input loss, will you be able to continuously feed greater power loss on the generator side.

Now you have no rate of loss, as memoryman has said.

You have yet to prove a magic effect, I dont think endless chain of weights is attractive solution? How big do you wish to make this.

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Offline sm0ky2

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I am going to pose a series of redundant questions, the answers to which, will define everything you think you understand.

What is energy?
What is momentum?
What is kinetic energy?

What is the kinetic energy of a particle that has no Mass?
What is its' Momentum?

and Why?

Let us take the basic example of a Photon.

We can create photons, measure their "energy", send them along a trajectory, and measure both their kinetic energy (impact),
and momentum (induction).
these particles have no mass.

Take a good look at the questions stated above, and YOUR OWN answers to them.

And try to answer the question "why?"

Where from, does this massless particle obtain its' momentum?

How does something with no mass, have kinetic energy while in motion, that is different from its' kinetic energy while stationary?
What does this information do to your "equations"?
Are they still "equivalent"?

fell free to keep this moment of self-awareness private, or share if you are duly inclined.
These questions are completely rhetorical, and intended for personal enlightenment.

Offline sm0ky2

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Well then bring a bucket of energy and we'll compare yours to mine and we'll see who has more energy?

you do understand that a simple "worm-gear" will do this, without all the extra losses, right?
you are complicating the situation, for no reason...

Test it out, compare "your system" to a worm gear of the same diameter as your output,
geared to the same RPM as your output.

using the same drive motor, determine which operates "better".


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Offline memoryman

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It seems that MeGaFaRR  has a lack of understanding about torque/force power, energy and work. They are related but not the same. Either self-looping or a thorough measurement of input/out energy will prove something; not eyeballing.

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It seems that MeGaFaRR  has a lack of understanding about torque/force power, energy and work. They are related but not the same. Either self-looping or a thorough measurement of input/out energy will prove something; not eyeballing.

To memoryman:
Do tell me then: Does a 2000 lbs. flywheel rotating at 3500 rpm's have more stored energy than a 1 lbs. flywheel rotating at 3500 rpm's?

Offline memoryman

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kinetic energy is calculated by k.e.=m x V^2. Where did that energy come from?

Offline MeGaFaRR

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kinetic energy is calculated by k.e.=m x V^2. Where did that energy come from?

Exactly, where as most of my stored energy comes from the stored energy already in the system, then as I add flywheels with clutches and and motor already rotating to the total, then I am not using just the input from the power source, I am using both. I am using the stored energy already there and I add approximately 60% of the total flywheels to the total. Thus keeping the energy required from power source input to a minimum. So in conclusion again:

Which has more stored energy in a 2000 lbs flywheel rotating at 3500 lbs.?

1) A flywheel that requires 30 hp motor to get it up and running to speed (1 minute)

2) or with my system in place with 1 hp motor (1 minute)

Again same stored energy but which system used more energy to get it to full rpm's?

So again as I have claimed that "MY SYSTEM ALLOWS YOU TO REDUCE THE INPUT REQUIRED FROM A POWER SOURCE TO GET A FULL SET OF FLYWHEELS TO FULL RPMS OF THIS POWER SOURCE AND/OR TO INCREASE THE STORED ENERGY OUTPUT FROM THE FULL SET OF FLYWHEELS."
So no matter what size input you start with as long as this power source can start the set of maybe 5 flywheels ( again sized to correspond with size of input power source) and then add as many sets of flywheels you want, it will always be enough to do what I claim.

I'm not the physicist or mathematician to tell me when my system will run into a problem with drag and resistance but I've proven that I could add way more flywhee to it, to gain a lot more stored energy.

I really appreciate all the comments lately, they have been rather enjoyable to help this discussion along as opposed to the naysayer comments that appeared at the beginning of my thread. As I said I really enjoy positive criticism, and thank you for making my poor little, frazzled and aged brain do some work. Hopefully we can all get along. Lol

 

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