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Author Topic: I have a proven model I built. I am looking for like minded people who know more  (Read 35907 times)

Offline AlienGrey

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A good eyed dear, what's the rest of her like, but seriously speaking you can forget over unity if it involves an electric motor because of the loses involved, people can argue all they like but that 's what i was tort and all the experiments we did on that subject were tested on the bench ant that was always supported by this rule of thought ! so count me out of this one !

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Not a false assumption at all. It's a TRUE FACT until you prove otherwise by demonstrating something built from your designs that runs itself.

Quite to the contrary, at best it is OPINION. I chose "false assumption" for in fact such an opinion; "cannot ever be" forecloses the future (if there is going to be any) and its reality, which would require omnipotence that men do not control or possess.

"TRUE FACT"; rather redundant since a "fact" is something done, thus in "reality" and therefore true. In D-O's opinion nothing has been done, nothing can be done, nothing will be done and smells of being false or faulty logic to me.

TK you have been invited more than once, it is up to you to open the door for a look at what you have little if any knowledge of.

Where does kinetic energy "manifest" and where does it come from? Are you kidding? It comes from your power supply and "manifests" as mass in motion. You get out what you put in, minus losses, and in your designs, the losses are massive.

No not kidding at all.

"It comes from your power supply" = fair enough to be considered correct although so generic that it could mean something entirely different from what "in reality" is the power supply actually used in each of the different BUILDS and designs already in existence is.

"and "manifests" as mass in motion." = Perhaps at relativistic velocities but unimportant and not measurable to be significant to the ordinary Joe who simply needs juice of his own making. Unimportant because ALL MATTER has mass whether at rest or in motion. Matter is a physical object, mass is a property of Matter. Kinetic energy manifests WITHIN THE MATTER ITSELF.

We are back to my simple question directly to you that remains unanswered: Are you able to explain how or what you can do to inhibit Nature from manifesting its Kinetic energy within ALL Matter in motion? (I know of at least 2 that are undeniable)

"You get what you put in, minus losses" = True, and in ways you have yet to learn, or not.

Over efficient designs eliminate losses.

Offline Dog-One

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"TRUE FACT"; rather redundant since a "fact" is something done, thus in "reality" and therefore true. In D-O's opinion nothing has been done, nothing can be done, nothing will be done and smells of being false or faulty logic to me.

I'd prefer if you let me speak for myself.

What I concluded from reading your material doesn't align with what I'm looking for.  Though a struggle, I did actually read the material and attempted to digest the meaning.  With what appeared to me to be contradictory statements, metaphysical claims and a lot of dancing around the core technology, I concluded my efforts would be better spent on my current project, which in order to work, MUST harness an untapped oscillatory power source directly from the environment.  If my current project results in a successful implementation, the device will indeed be self running, since it will have no other power source connected to it.  And I will not have to make any claims whatsoever.  All I will need to do is publish the complete list of parts and assembly instructions, which no one will ever see until I have successfully done this multiple times with identical results.

The fact of the matter is this:  If you do have a working technology, you should know this to be true by having multiple functioning prototypes.  I was unable to discern this from your website.  I saw design and calculations, but no videos of actual working models; no testimonials of others that have replicated any such models.  So when you post to a thread titled, "I have a proven model I built", I would assume you not only engineered this device on paper, but actually built it, followed by the necessary legwork to have it proven.  If the evidence of all this exists, I did not see it.

In any event, I wish you luck.  I haven't the time or resources to assist you in your endeavor.  There was a possibility of adjusting my priorities provided you had clearly demonstrated what you state to be true.  I cannot concur with your assessment and therefore leave you to make improvements to a point where I can unquestionably see an obtainable objective.


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Offline Temporal Visitor

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I'd prefer if you let me speak for myself.

What I concluded from reading your material doesn't align with what I'm looking for.  Though a struggle, I did actually read the material and attempted to digest the meaning.  With what appeared to me to be contradictory statements, metaphysical claims and a lot of dancing around the core technology, I concluded my efforts would be better spent on my current project, which in order to work, MUST harness an untapped oscillatory power source directly from the environment.  If my current project results in a successful implementation, the device will indeed be self running, since it will have no other power source connected to it.  And I will not have to make any claims whatsoever.  All I will need to do is publish the complete list of parts and assembly instructions, which no one will ever see until I have successfully done this multiple times with identical results.

The fact of the matter is this:  If you do have a working technology, you should know this to be true by having multiple functioning prototypes.  I was unable to discern this from your website.  I saw design and calculations, but no videos of actual working models; no testimonials of others that have replicated any such models.  So when you post to a thread titled, "I have a proven model I built", I would assume you not only engineered this device on paper, but actually built it, followed by the necessary legwork to have it proven.  If the evidence of all this exists, I did not see it.

In any event, I wish you luck.  I haven't the time or resources to assist you in your endeavor.  There was a possibility of adjusting my priorities provided you had clearly demonstrated what you state to be true.  I cannot concur with your assessment and therefore leave you to make improvements to a point where I can unquestionably see an obtainable objective.

Hello,

Thanks for your reply and please know that I would not dream of speaking for you.

Additionally so there is no confusion; I hope you know the machine, design, engineering and pdf. writing describing it of this thread are not mine.

The http://www.backgauges.com/Gen-E-Sys%20II/ website is mine and surely does not please everyone which is fine with me.

On that website there is a path to make "contact" to learn more about my work, work that is not on it, and is not a give away.

Those that make "contact" and survive long enough to get to "know" me somewhat more, often get much more of what you wrote of and seemingly expect to be provided as "improvement to a point where I (you) can unquestionably see an obtainable objective".

You are welcome to visit, and surely free to continue looking for whatever may please you.

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So for all you naysayers. Thank you very much for all the input. Lol whatever it may be. Most naysayers have no more to back their statements than what is our exceptional education system has taught them. Mostly to say "YOU CAN'T DO THAT" instead actually going out and experimenting on their own. Now most of what is taught is correct except for the ideas that would help change the world for the better. And take away any original thoughts that would go against the establishment that has the consumerism of fossil fuel in mind.

For all the others who have positive and helpful comments. Thank you very much. I as always appreciate intellectual conversations to inspire, learn and/or teach others. There are few such as Temporal Visitor, who actually have challenged the establishment education that has taught us so well. It seems the only ones who have positive and helpful suggestions are these same people who actually have built and tested their own equipment and have found that not all that we know and have been taught is correct.

http://youtu.be/KL_ZSrQ5Hf4

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Offline AlienGrey

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Mr Frank, did you use to be a tram driver in a past life by any chance ?  ;)  any way can't you simply run it up slowly  a variable power supply or light / motor dimming circuit just to test it ?

Offline ARMCORTEX

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Its not that we are naysayers, its just that your theory is not actually the real reason why these devices work, because all these people have devices, that work, that cost alot of money to build, and that are built, and they are saying that they work, they have patents, and they got offered alot of money already, and they are not at all like the way you want to build yours. You dont know how these work, and you have built nothing.

Not only that, those look far cheaper to build vs yours, wich is unrealistic and not built. Why would we listen to you anyways ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s86kfABdcY4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr67j71NSsQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkbeTlqlLr4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEJsXRS4Wnw&list=PLCHkhwd8h-Hsa73yj3YJpZpCWnfAftI6x

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awOHkxfsxCQ


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Offline MeGaFaRR

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To :ARMCORTEZ again wow.
1st video you show has no English and lots of clicking noises couldn't watch it to the end.
2nd video ya about $200,000 to build nothing but music to explain.  Lol
3rd video: once again, lots of music lots of components that prove nothing at all.
4th one: again, why don't you come over and translate to English the I'll explain to you in English why that doesn't work either and the same time you could see a proven working model that does work.
If they work and are so cheap to build, why are we not lining up to buy em. You should be first. If you BELIEVE.

http://youtu.be/16B2dpMNV7c

Offline MeGaFaRR

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Now for all you naysayers, here's it working exactly as I said.
Now tomorrow I will give you some physics lessons that I learned as a child that surpasses the lessons you have learned and continue to try to convince others that you are right and "YOU CAN'T DO THAT" mentality. They are simple and prove my concept right and the teachings wrong.
Enjoy


http://youtu.be/e1a2gGSAztI

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Oh by the way. How many seconds does it take to get the rpm's up to speed of the motor and flywheels? Lol. Not minutes as some have suggested, those who don't understand some physics, just mere seconds. And if I were to add more flywheels as in my paper it won't take too much longer. It's a matter of timing.

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To : AlienGrey now I've seen about 200 of thes YouTube videos with wires and little flywheels with magnets. The host connecting this and that to batteries. I have no idea what it's suppose to prove
 My machine only proves my concept that "I CAN REDUCE THE ENERGY REQUIRED TO ROTATE A FLYWHEEL TO FULL SPEED OR BEYOUND OF ANY POWER UNIT AND/OR INCREASE THE OUTPUT OF STORED ENERGY IN A SET OF FLYWHEELS" done.

http://youtu.be/e1a2gGSAztI

Offline ARMCORTEX

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Those are not bad videos.

There is some videos where the Flywheel is accelerated in 5 seconds.

How do you explain this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoyDX0A02gw

Not bad videos, thanks.

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To: ARMCORTEZ
I don't really understand the point of this video. I'm not suggesting that my machine is any faster anyone else. All I'm stating is that with my formula and system, I can get more stored energy out of flywheel system than any other. As you can see I my videos that I cannot start the set of flywheels without it in place. But once attached the 1 hp motor has no problem getting the whole set of flywheels up to speed. THUS INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF STORED ENERGY A 1 hp motor can produce. As of yet no one has produced any evidence that my concept doesn't work. The statements that have been produced so far has nothing to do with my claims.

http://youtu.be/e1a2gGSAztI

Offline memoryman

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 "My machine only proves my concept that "I CAN REDUCE THE ENERGY REQUIRED TO ROTATE A FLYWHEEL TO FULL SPEED OR BEYOUND OF ANY POWER UNIT AND/OR INCREASE THE OUTPUT OF STORED ENERGY IN A SET OF FLYWHEELS" done."
Without measuring, how does it prove anything?

 

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