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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: To prove overunity, to the skeptics on here
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2016, 10:15:14 AM »
Well said. You can better be an artist than doing OU research. The artist fit's in a
cultural and mental framework. No questions about his/her attemps to do the impossible.
I think that, we OU explorers, have a lot in common with the artists. The same aspiration.
Not understood by even my sons. They think what I am doing is a waste of time.
Even worser; "Daddy I don't want to talk with you about FE and all this nonsense".
It is also a non-item for my family and friends. No person in a radius of 100Km interested.
Nobody understands my fascination for creating OU devices. This hobby is hard to share...
Same loneliness as an artist, same social isolation, other scene, other status.
I am glad to meet you guys here, (where are the women?). Last months I am learning a lot.
Not only about principles and technics. I know we are with many passionated people.
I hope at a "coming-out" of this community, this year. There will be the OU day, once a year.
The national media ignore our existence. Do we want more understanding of our endeavor?
I think we are in some way loners. A touch with the magic wand made me bewitched.
On the other hand, I feel also as an alchemist or techno shaman, with an unexplainable joy
making energy devices with sound and sparks and lights and magnets and coils and
maybe OU, one day.
 

like Archimedes the Great, Leonardo Da Vinci , or Orville Wright
those who are 'woke up'...

the sheep will never understand, nor care to.

When we save them they won't even know what happened.

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Re: To prove overunity, to the skeptics on here
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2016, 10:15:14 AM »

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Re: To prove overunity, to the skeptics on here
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2016, 02:08:48 PM »
   Regarding,  undulating fields between magnets, 
      I first found possible evidence for that idea from the following webpage,  http://physics.aps.org/story/v9/st30  ,  although that is between the magnetic-fields of the sun and the earth. 
   So,  to replicate the interaction between the magnetic-fields of the sun and the earth, I thought it would be logical to space two magnets sufficiently far apart,  and that there must or may  be a very specific  distance at which that could happen .
   (  of course it's possible I may have misinterpreted the above webpage too much,  because when I look at diagrams on other webpages,  of the  sun's  magnetic-field  affecting  the earths  magnetic-field,   the earth's field looks like it's in  an  aerodynamics  test,  with it's field totally blown backwards as if it were in a storm  )
What you missed in the article at that link is the solar wind. It's a plasma of charged particles. Of course you are looking at static images of the solar wind but you have to remember that the planet is also rotating. That rotation sets up somewhat of an undulation as viewed from a fixed point on the ground. Picture the rotating earth with a fixed point rotating into that pressure from the solar wind as the fixed point reaches sunrise, peaking at noon, and rotating away from the solar wind at sunset, reaching the minimum at midnight, and progressing back into the solar wind again. Of course that's a 24 hour period which is rather long and it's still not even close to any kind of regular rhythm because the solar wind speed and density also vary.

You also have to factor in the van Allen radiation belts that capture some, but not all, of the charged particles ejected in the solar wind and the van Allen belts themselves are variable.

Another thing that's missing from those static images is that the earth's magnetic field is also variable and not at all fixed as shown in the images. So is the sun's magnetic field.

There is an interesting animation of the solar wind at the following link. I built a version of Tesla's radiant energy collector and logged voltages over several months along with local conditions such as time in relation to sunset/sunrise, temperature, humidity, wind speed direction, UV level, etc. and found no correlation between local weather and the voltage readings. But when I started recording the solar wind density and speed I found an inverse relationship between the solar wind density and the voltage measured - lower density gave higher voltage and higher density gave lower voltage readings. It's similar to a cloud passing between the sun and a photovoltaic panel. My theory is that the higher density of the solar wind plasma causes the more energetic charged particles from the sun to be absorbed in collisions between those particles and the particles of the solar wind and thus fewer reached the collector I built. Or it may be that the higher density gives the van Allen radiation belts a higher charge so they capture more of the higher energy particles. Here's the link:
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/wsa-enlil-solar-wind-prediction
When you click the play button on the animation it downloads the current data so it takes a bit to start up.

The interesting part of this is the "magnetic reconnection". They say reconnection releases energy at the time of the reconnection but I haven't found anything yet on exactly how that occurs and I don't think they know. It might be that the magnetic field lines capture charged particles and when the reconnection occurs these particles are thrown off and so might be captured for measurement. I think this is what is happening in "Barkhausen noise" also but on a tiny scale rather than a planetary scale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLXVLDysroY

I suspect that magnetic flux lines in the magnetic material are shifted in the material and as the flux lines pass over impurities in the material they are broken and a tiny amount of energy is released when they reconnect. So the Barkhausen noise would be the released energy from those reconnections occurring. Of course, the material will have hysteresis so I don't think moving the flux lines across the impurities and back can be done at high enough frequencies to obtain any meaningful power.

Capturing charged particles with magnetic flux lines is also used in magnetron sputtering to increase the sputtering rate but that is done in a vacuum so it is sort of like an artificial van Allen belt in that application. That it works in magentron sputtering gives some credence to my theory about the solar wind density affecting the Tesla radiant energy collector.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hf2kkqZhL7U
https://www.google.com/search?biw=1024&bih=644&tbm=isch&q=magnetron+sputtering&revid=329862273&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwix__a38r_KAhVPxGMKHcQECPYQ1QIIIg&dpr=1#imgrc=_

I hope this might be helpful.

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Re: To prove overunity, to the skeptics on here
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2016, 12:20:58 AM »
Yes,  I actually did know that the article also involves the  solar-wind,  and that because the earth is rotating( and it's magnetic-field is from the earth's-core, which itself is rotating in a different axis ),  and the sun is a dynamic-device, etc.

I have never heard about  'Barkhausen noise' .   I assume this occurs in household permanent-magnets.
    You explanation/theory of it sounds very logical. 
    But what if you are wrong,  and it could actually be a potential source of either creating kinetic-motion between two magnets,  or to achieve undulating-fields between two magnets.
      -  What about  superconductors( super-cooled-magnets ),  and maybe  graphene( and the new superconductor version of graphene ),  and stanene,     do they have   'Barkhausen noise'  .

   Strangely enough,  in the permanent-magnet-motor  thread,  a few months ago,  I posted an idea of  adding  impurities  to the surface of a  permanent-magnet,  to try and create a  spray-effect  emanating  from the   permanent-magnet,   to provide a  dynamic-traction  between  2   permanent-magnets,  to  achieve successful  rotation in a  magnet-motor. 
   
  Also, currently a theory has been presented on this site that the magnetic-field is made of tubes, vortices,  vortex-tubes,  and the evidence is observed with an electron microscope,  below
     www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxVqO5zPmvU
     Apparently this theory existed before einstien ,  it's well worth looking up the theory and research etc.

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Re: To prove overunity, to the skeptics on here
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2016, 12:36:15 PM »
I believe Earth magnetic field is induced. Cheers  ;D

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Re: To prove overunity, to the skeptics on here
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2016, 03:36:06 AM »
I have never heard about  'Barkhausen noise' .   I assume this occurs in household permanent-magnets.
    You explanation/theory of it sounds very logical. 
    But what if you are wrong,  and it could actually be a potential source of either creating kinetic-motion between two magnets,  or to achieve undulating-fields between two magnets.
      -  What about  superconductors( super-cooled-magnets ),  and maybe  graphene( and the new superconductor version of graphene ),  and stanene,     do they have   'Barkhausen noise'  .
The Barkhausen effect actually is demonstrated in unmagnetised ferromagnetic materials (iron, ferrite, etc) when a magnetic field is brought near and moved away the material, not the magnets themselves. It's best demonstrated with neodymium magnets because they are strong but I think any sufficiently strong magnetic field source will work.

I don't know that much about supercondcutors but I've read that one of the effects is that the magnetic field is ejected from the material so it's unlikely there would be much or any Barkhausen effect.

I've seen some papers on graphene and stanene but they mostly focus on conductivity, i.e. "room temperature superconduction". I remember one paper said that stanene could conduct electricity without losses to heat which kind of implies no magnetic excitation but it wasn't really very clear. I think most of the work on stanene is still in computer models. As far as I know neither are ferromagnetic so I don't think an approaching or receding magnetic field would have any effect. I don't know enough about them to even guess whether doping with ferromagnetic materials cause the effect.


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Re: To prove overunity, to the skeptics on here
« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2016, 08:33:22 PM »
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I believe Earth magnetic field is induced.
geodynamo
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamo_theory

  It seems the actual origin of this induced magnetic-field is
 
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Tidal forces between celestial orbiting bodies cause friction that heats up their interiors.

    Makes me wonder if this occurs between electrons and protons/neutrons,  or between atoms, or between materials.  I had read theories wondering that if you could completely insulate any material, then it should build up heat,   but I doubt that any material exists that could completely insulate something,  it all leaks via radiation.
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     It would be a good idea if someone here  starts up a  thread,  on the  magnetic-sputtering  idea,  and  maybe include the words  'magnetic-sputtering' ( or spray ) in the title and maybe include the words 'dynamic'  magnetic-fields' from 'static magnets',   since people with knowledge about that wouldn't think to look at a thread like this.

   The main idea is to put things on, or coat the surface( or, in the original mixture ) of a permanent-magnet,  with something,  to try and cause a constantly changing, dynamic, magnetic-field,  even if the movement is very small.   
   The material to cause that effect could be piezoelectric( like crystals ) or ferroelectric, or even permanent'magnets made of another material( to see what the incompatibility causes ).
    But what about coating a magnet( or somehow mixing ) it with superconductors like the different versions of graphene, and stanene( which hasn't actually been created yet ),  since superconductors eject  magnetic-fields,   maybe the  time-difference  between  an-ejected-field  and the field of the permanent-magnet  could cause a sufficiently large enough permanent-motion.

     Could the time-difference(  some difference in electron-spin ) between 2 separate magnetic-fields,   cause a sufficiently large enough permanent-motion.

    Thats a reason why  full-levitation,  just by using  permanent-magnets,   interests me so much.
    (  I posted a lot of designs on how easily that should be achieved, and it doesn't contravene  earnshaw's-theory,  because the levitation is not stable enough,  even though it does remain fully-levitating  )
       But it occurred to me,  that if you'd have a large-neodymium-magnet  fully-levitating  from the fields of static-permanent'magnets,    that any tiny movement by the fully-levitating-large-neodymium-magnet,  would be greatly amplified at the  outermost-tips  of it's magnetic-field ,  turning it into a useful source of energy. 
(  also, maybe you could coat the surface of a magnet with tiny magnets that are somehow fully-levitating,  and then that causes a bigger constant-movement,  and then that causes a bigger constant-movement,  and that cycle repeats until the movement is big enough to generate useful energy  )

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« Reply #21 on: March 10, 2016, 10:28:19 PM »
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But it occurred to me,  that if you'd have a large-neodymium-magnet  fully-levitating  from the fields of static-permanent'magnets,    that any tiny movement by the fully-levitating-large-neodymium-magnet,  would be greatly amplified at the  outermost-tips  of it's magnetic-field ,  turning it into a useful source of energy. 
(  also, maybe you could coat the surface of a magnet with tiny magnets that are somehow fully-levitating,  and then that causes a bigger constant-movement,  and then that causes a bigger constant-movement,  and that cycle repeats until the movement is big enough to generate useful energy  )

   The Amplification Of The Oscillating Magnetic-field Of A Fully-Levitating Permanent-Magnet
      So this  oscillation  is amplified at the very outer-tip( point-x1 ) of the magnetic-field( measurable-field ) of a fully-levitating permanent-magnet( magnet-x1 ) just levitating on the fields of other permanent-magnets( via the different simple methods I have posted ).
      Now what if you used  point-x1  to cause another  fully-levitating permanent-magnet of the same size as magnet-x1,   to oscillate more than it normally would,  and then keep on adding more and more levels of magnets further amplifying the oscillation,  eventually the oscillation would be big enough to produce useful energy.
       

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