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Title: Rene-Rator
Post by: tak22 on October 29, 2006, 12:28:43 AM
Found this link to something called the Rene-Rator, but I don't have the experience to know if it's worth investigating/replicating. I did a web search but found nothing else about it.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/renerator/freeenergy.jpg (http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/renerator/freeenergy.jpg)

Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: lynx2000nl on October 29, 2006, 09:27:27 PM
This device actually works.

It works because there is a phase shift. It works because the power needed to distort the magnetic field of the permanent magnet in the iron core is far less then the output power gained by distorting the magnetic field of the permanent magnet.

This is explained in the "KUNEL" patent.
So, this might just be the simplest working free energy generating device.

Anyone with a litte bit of understanding electronics can see how this works. And it works.

Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: FreeEnergy on October 29, 2006, 09:35:28 PM
http://rechercheblog.de/wp-content/downloads/KunelPatent.pdf
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: lynx2000nl on November 01, 2006, 06:04:32 AM
(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p51/renerator/freeenergy.jpg)

There is an update on the site
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: multi_dimensional on November 12, 2006, 03:09:43 PM
Very interesting tak22,

It seems to work along similar lines as other OU PM setups, and looks rather simple too.
Very Nice, the grammer in the patent is kinda hard to understand at times though.
Lynx, You say there is an update on the site, have you got link to that?

-Christo
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: FreeEnergy on November 12, 2006, 09:58:04 PM
anybody out there going to try this?
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: Johnny on February 22, 2007, 05:50:29 AM
I would love to try this device out, but unfortunately I don't have the time. Priorty 1 is the Bedini Motor though; there is enough evidence to show that it works.
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: lynx2000nl on May 21, 2007, 01:06:05 PM
To All,

Hereby a schematic to a energy multiplyer.
It seems to work similar to the Sweet VTA device.

It doesn't create opposit forces, but merely creates magnetic pathways.
The actuator coil, the middle one, lies in an magnetically  balanced field.

So it doesn't take power to counter forces. It uses a small amount of power to create a fluctuating field. The permanent field then follows this path which causes simultaniously induction and contra induction nin the 4 output coils, wound in series.

Have a look here... http://s191.photobucket.com/albums/z156/lynx2000nl/?action=view&current=unlimited.jpg

(http://s191.photobucket.com/albums/z156/lynx2000nl/?action-view&current=unlimited.jpg)
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: gyulasun on May 21, 2007, 04:04:14 PM
Hello lynx200nl,

Thanks for this interesting setup.
I would like to ask if the magnets are simply attached to the sides of the iron cores by the natural attraction, right?
Do you know of anyone who has built this setup in practice and managed to measure useful output power?  (On useful output now I mean which is an extra output over the input, higher than the input power.)

I sent you a Personal message (PM) a few weeks ago through this overunity forum on the Rene-Rator setup, have you read it?

Thanks
Gyula
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: lynx2000nl on May 23, 2007, 10:04:04 PM
Hello lynx200nl,

Thanks for this interesting setup.
I would like to ask if the magnets are simply attached to the sides of the iron cores by the natural attraction, right?
Do you know of anyone who has built this setup in practice and managed to measure useful output power?  (On useful output now I mean which is an extra output over the input, higher than the input power.)

I sent you a Personal message (PM) a few weeks ago through this overunity forum on the Rene-Rator setup, have you read it?

Thanks
Gyula

Your welcome.
I have build it in a very small scale, but not with the right wiring. I noticed that the magnetic field oscillate with the input power on the core. But only when the magnets are near the core. When they magnetically attach you cannot feel this.

Thinking about an application for this to.

But, no, as far as i know, no one has yet build it. It is kind of new ;)
 About the renerator, i will go and check your PM now..
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: TheOne on May 23, 2007, 10:19:56 PM
This looks exactly like a MEG to me, except the magnet are on the side instead of center
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: pese on May 24, 2007, 12:09:54 AM
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Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: lynx2000nl on May 26, 2007, 10:36:22 PM
This looks exactly like a MEG to me, except the magnet are on the side instead of center

It looks liks it and acts almost the samen. The MEG however, forces the magnetic field from 1 side to another. In the MEG there is NO magnetic balance in the actuator coils.

In this device you provide a magnetic path for the field-lines to travel across.

The actuator coil lies in the axact middle, so in a magnetic balance. Even if you drain power from the 4 coils, the middle of the device remains in magnetic balance, hence, no extra input power needed, to create the magnetic path.
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: FreeEnergy on May 26, 2007, 11:05:34 PM
Hi and thanks for sharing.  :)

can I please have more details on the drawing. and how to build this. also what is the Z for? sorry but i'm just not understanding this 100%, more like 50-60%.

http://s191.photobucket.com/albums/z156/lynx2000nl/?action=view&current=unlimited.jpg
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: Super on May 27, 2007, 12:27:34 AM
Quote
...can I please have more details on the drawing. and how to build this. also what is the Z for?

the "Z" stands for the magnetic polarisation "south" (please ask me not why  ;) )

very interesting, powerpedia has something like this with a DIY step by step tutorial

easy and cheap to build, if you don't belive and have no time to build try to simulate it -> works!
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: archon79 on June 30, 2007, 03:44:44 PM
Lynx did you design that device you posted a pic of or did you get it from somewhere else?
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: Super God on July 11, 2007, 05:30:06 AM
I think I'll start replicating THIS instead of the bedini.  I wanna see if this can actually work in practice and scale up to huge power levels.  Would anyone be willing to help?
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: twosox on July 11, 2007, 11:11:54 AM
Hi guys,

I like this setup, nice and simple. Did a quick femm simulation (attached), the centre coil is 500 turns 22awg wire with 0.5A supply, looks quite good.
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: lynx2000nl on December 15, 2007, 12:02:14 AM
Hi all.

Yes i did design it, as did i do the rene-rator. Gues my name 8)

Sharing is caring.....

You can find both designs on photobucket.com if you look for renerator

good luck.

It has been build en resonating.. pass on the info. mannkind needs it.
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: AhuraMazda on December 15, 2007, 01:10:28 AM
Nothing there but a very old diagram.
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: zaydana on December 18, 2007, 01:40:40 PM
Hi people

It seems to me that this idea is very similar to Parallel Path: http://peswiki.com/energy/Directory:Joseph_Flynn's_Parallel_Path_technology

Has anybody built one yet?

I'm thinking I might try and build this myself, I can't see what could go wrong. If its anything like parallel path then closing the loop won't be as easy as it looks, but actually getting an output which is amplified from the input shouldn't be too hard...

 - James
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: Thaelin on December 18, 2007, 02:23:19 PM
   Just be mindful that Flynn is now in with Boeing and that makes him owned by the gov. I ask about a 3" motor for an e-bike, they quoted me $2000. I took that as a dont bother me.

thaelin
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: zaydana on December 18, 2007, 03:05:17 PM
Oh, I didn't realize that. I guess it would explain why we havn't seen anything out of them for a while.

That said, if Boeing didn't see him as a nutcase, it means it works. All the more reason to try and build his stuff, imo.
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: helmut on December 18, 2007, 08:36:32 PM
Oh, I didn't realize that. I guess it would explain why we havn't seen anything out of them for a while.

That said, if Boeing didn't see him as a nutcase, it means it works. All the more reason to try and build his stuff, imo.

I am shure,that the Magnetic Circuit  Tecnologie does have unexpectet Potential.

helmut
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: vince on December 22, 2007, 03:01:12 AM
Hi Lynx200nl;

I was hoping that you might answer 2 questions for me about the Rene-Rator.

In the later rendition of the device the output coil on the ring seems to have a center tap connection whereas the earlier one does not. Is that correct?

Is the core ring a full circle with the magnet placed on top of it at the blocker coil locations or is the ring incomplete with the magnet inserted into it to form the whole circle?

Thanks
Vince
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: lynx2000nl on December 23, 2007, 02:00:12 PM
Hi Lynx200nl;

I was hoping that you might answer 2 questions for me about the Rene-Rator.

In the later rendition of the device the output coil on the ring seems to have a center tap connection whereas the earlier one does not. Is that correct?

Is the core ring a full circle with the magnet placed on top of it at the blocker coil locations or is the ring incomplete with the magnet inserted into it to form the whole circle?

Thanks
Vince

Vince.
The ring is cut open and the magnet is placed between the core. I thought about the actuator coils, blocking the field. They should be flat pancake coils like Tesla did. Place them between the magnet and the core.

The second version taps half way as actuator voltage input. I did this to show that only a little amount of energy generated is needed tot keep it going.

Take care that your core has high saturation values, like the cores Bearden used on the MEG.
But even plain soft iron works good.

The second device i posted is even easier to build. Take care that you use 4 equal output coils and that they are placed in series. This way there is a balance all over the unit. All the time and won't cause back EMF on the coil in the middle. Ergo tap as much free energy as you'd like.

have fun
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: zaydana on December 23, 2007, 03:11:04 PM
lynx2000nl:

Have you actually built either of these 2 circuits? I'm thinking about building the second one, although knowing somebody else has made it work would give me a lot more motivation...
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: AhuraMazda on December 23, 2007, 03:26:36 PM
[The second device i posted is even easier to build. Take care that you use 4 equal output coils and that they are placed in series. This way there is a balance all over the unit. All the time and won't cause back EMF on the coil in the middle. Ergo tap as much free energy as you'd like.

have fun

@lynx2000nl
Where are you posting your stuff? I find nothing on photobucket.com.

AM
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: lynx2000nl on December 23, 2007, 05:52:48 PM
[The second device i posted is even easier to build. Take care that you use 4 equal output coils and that they are placed in series. This way there is a balance all over the unit. All the time and won't cause back EMF on the coil in the middle. Ergo tap as much free energy as you'd like.

have fun

@lynx2000nl
Where are you posting your stuff? I find nothing on photobucket.com.

AM

Goto Photobucket.com and search for : renerator. You'll find both diagrams.

We are now in the proces of completing the 2nd device. As you can see in this post. The simulation clearly shows how and that it works. It is very simple and the basic rule is: Balance !
The 2nd device is very simple to build, but requires an external source to provide a sinus wave.
Altough this is no problem, it doesn;t keep itself running. Unlike the renerator, which is a little more complex, but which starts resonating by it self when a short magnet field is introduced.


suc6 all.

I can't post to much here. So logging out now.
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: vince on January 03, 2008, 04:13:17 AM
Hi Lynx2000nl;

Well, I gave the rene-rator a shot. I used 3/8'' cold rolled steel for the core and annealed it, so it is very magnetic. My magnets are stacks of 3/8'' Neo magnets,(very strong). My blocker coils are flat pancake tesla type coils like you suggested and are made onto small brass spools that fit the ends of the steel core.  I used the first wiring diagram without the center tap.  I only had used diodes which I believe are OK although I was having trouble testing them.  I know I am getting induction because if I remove one of the magnet stacks and replace it I do get voltage at the opposite collector coil on the second ring. It will not resonate!  I must admit that I did not wind the collector coils but instead I used 6 factory wound 12volt coils that I had. I put 3 of them on each ring and wired them in series to each other. The have a slightly bigger hole than the core but they do seem to receive magnetic induction. Sorry for the poor pictures but I using a cell phone camera and waiting for a new camera to arrive. 

What do you think? 
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: ra5en on March 14, 2008, 11:50:50 AM
Just found this while browsing through...

Of all the designs, it seems to be one with the most potential (to spend my hard-earned cash on) - I just have a couple of questions for Lynx2000nl:

Does the circuit output hot or cold current?  Since it operates somewhat like Sweet's VTA, I'm assuming that it also outputs a mix of the two?

And, I don't want to seem pragmatic, but have you done any measurements on the circuit (Voltage, Current, Frequency Response)? Any specific frequency that it should work on, or does it work on the resonating frequency (magnetic or mechanical?) of the specific setup?
Title: Re: Rene-Rator
Post by: F. Hopper on May 26, 2008, 09:54:03 PM
I have constructed 1 of the transformer rings of this circuit and am currently doing some tests on it, but so far my findings are less than acceptable..I will post diagrams of my design later after further tests are completed..