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## Mechanical free energy devices => mechanic => Topic started by: TommeyLReed on February 06, 2016, 12:54:02 AM

Title: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on February 06, 2016, 12:54:02 AM
Hi All,

I started on the latest version of the Clem engine with Vicktor Schauberger implosion theories.

The Clem engine could have been the real deal, I say this due to the lack of information about Richard Clem and his engine.

Keelynet was where I got the information and read many different theory of how it works.

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/clem1.htm

Every other claims of free energy was tons of information, yet none turn out to be anything near over unity, another reason to research the Clem engine.

The Clem engine was not a rim jet engine using high pressure fluid thrust, where hydraulic pump was needed to reach pressure 300psi-500psi.

The Clem engine was a hydraulic motor with a type of centrifugal vacuum pump that pulls fluid from the hydraulic motor while forcing it outward due to inertia spin.

This was the first design I did a few months back and how it works.

This other picture is the implosion pump I'm building now.

Tom
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on February 06, 2016, 03:08:02 AM
Hi all,

Simple video on this project...

Tom.

Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on February 08, 2016, 03:44:34 AM
Hi All,

Did some data on the centrifugal impeller calculation of output of negative pressure created with size and rpm.

Rpm's  dia  ft/sec   psi       H/PSI
100      6     2.62   0.05     0.11

Rpms: is rotation of pump.
Dia: size of pump diameter.
psi: negative pressure produce at rpm's.

Tom...
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on February 09, 2016, 04:41:00 AM
Hi All,

New update on the Clem engine implosion motor.

The above article was reported as being generated from Flower Mound, Texas (northwest of Dallas and slightly beyond Carrollton). I called the only Clem listed in the book as of 11/20/92 and they knew of no other Clem in that area, nor did they know of any Richard Clem or his family. Two separate visits to the patent section of the Dallas Library have not yielded any patents by a Richard Clem involving any type of engine. We are still pursuing for more details. As of 12/26/92, I drew up a .GIF file called CLEM1.GIF that is bundled with this file under the name CLEM2.ZIP. It gives a better understanding of how the machine was constructed, at least as it was described to us.
For those who study such matters, one immediately sees the tie-ins with Boundary Layer Drag principles as evinced in much of Tesla's work as well as Victor Schaubergers Impansion and Implosion discoveries. We have noted something odd about spinning masses in that at specific velocities, strange things occur. The velocities at which phenomena occur are dependent on the resonant frequencies of the mass as an aggregate, exactly as Keely said. The Clem system was said to be built with off-the-shelf components. The most complicated piece of the entire machine was the cone. And based on Boundary layer drag, it would seem that the cone was unnecessary. The question with the Clem device is 'Does the extended surface area of the cone add to the additional velocity of the cone, yielding greater pressures through centrifugal force or would flat plates as in the TESLA turbine be sufficient to generate the same effect?' We continue to look for more information on this device and appreciate your comments or supporting material.  Update as of May 1996
A company called Creative Sciences is selling plans (\$60) for what they claim is a machine that generates 1500hp and runs by itself. They call this a CEACU and claim it was released by a 70 year old retired scientist.
The truth of the matter is it was designed and built by the late Richard Clem of Flower Mound, Texas as documented by this paper. It is wonderful that someone has taken this information and done something with it (or so claimed) and we will have more details later if you might like to build one. However, be aware a few years ago, some of our Roundtable group chipped in for about \$150 worth of 'plans' from Creative Sciences.  The plans were bogus and were not free energy unless you are simple enough to think compressed air (as used in some of Dennis Lees 'demonstrations') is free energy. In the last part of June 2001, Rick Harrison, president of Creative Sciences sent an email to KeelyNet saying he was prepared to sue if we did not stop 'bad-mouthing' his company.  The website is http://www.fuellesspower.com and I told him go ahead, since I and many others would love to see them prove their overunity claims in court. Since then he has not responded back and the website is not responding, so I think they are changing their claims.  We also have several emails from others who say Creative ripped them off and one from Brazil saying its been 60 days after he sent about \$115.00 and received nothing. With regard to differences between the CEACU design and Clem the CEACU does not require the cone, but instead uses a thick disk with nozzles on the outer edge. A hollow shaft feeds water into this disk at a high velocity. As the water exits from the nozzles, the disk spins giving an ever higher velocity. A 3200 psi air tank is used to get the disk spinning to 1000 rpm when it is claimed to begin to run on its own. There are other ways to achieve this velocity beyond 3200 psi as you can well imagine. If you write them, please let them know that Richard Clem is the true inventor (as I will). Thanks!...  Jerry W. Decker (jdecker@keelynet.com)  Sysop / KeelyNet   (http://www.keelynet.com/energy/thin.jpg)     Clem Engine Index page (http://www.keelynet.com/energy/clemindex.htm) - 06/11/04 KeelyNet Loader page (http://www.keelynet.com) [/b]
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on February 15, 2016, 11:01:54 PM
HI All,

Just about finished on this implosion version of the Clem engine.

Tom
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: e2matrix on February 16, 2016, 06:38:10 PM
Very nice work!   Sounded like you sucked helium before that video - LOL.   What did you use to speed it up like that ?
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on March 29, 2016, 07:21:22 PM
Hi All,

I'm Back building again. Needed time off to design a pump system for the Clem Engine.

This is the lower centrifugal pump the feed fluid into the drive motor.

Its special design allows the outer housing to pump while the center lower shaft is stationary.

Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: ARMCORTEX on March 30, 2016, 06:21:39 AM
Interresting work Tommy.

I am looking into that Clem Engine now, could ti have been that powerful and demonstrated?

Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on March 30, 2016, 10:48:39 AM
Hi ARMCORTEX,

I believe more then ever the Clem engine was the real deal.

The problem was all the information that Keelynet explain on how it work was not correct.

I know this because I built many prototypes base on the theory of the rim jet.

This Clem engine I believe now was a tornado vortex like a waterspout.

No different then a tornado that forms a vortex, Viktor schauberber was the first that design a motor base on these theories.

I should be done very soon to explain in detail of how it will work. it's not a simple build but it will have the same effect as a tornado
waterspout.

Tom

Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: markdansie on March 30, 2016, 03:34:30 PM
great work, I look forward to your result
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: ARMCORTEX on March 30, 2016, 05:43:07 PM
I will not go into beliefs and possible theories, I have read many and am confused already.

What interests me is the overall simplicity and the fact that they were witnesses to his achievements.

Did you ever contact any witnesses?

I cant believe anymore if something was the real deal, I gotta know, for a fact, or pretty close to that.
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on March 30, 2016, 06:31:13 PM
Hi Arm,

I agree, this is why I spent my own time and money to prove or disprove the claims.

There is nothing out there to explain how it works, in fact very little information on the Clem engine while tons of false claims of overunity.

I do have many facts that was wrong about false claim of how the Clem engine worked. I also have new data after many prototyping that shows important things happening while it rotates at a high speed.

This is why my Clem engine build is now being called the Vortex tornado engine, due to the heat generated and the change in viscosity of cooking oil.

My prototype deals with these facts and also the main part of the Clem engine theory is it's really a hydraulic motor with a effects of the tornado oil spout effect that moves the fluid outward from centrifugal force while feeding fluid into the motor.

Tom.
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: ARMCORTEX on March 31, 2016, 03:02:29 AM
Very low substance, I have heard this many times.

Alot of mystery, claims and well taken pictures.

Did you ever locate witnesses?
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on March 31, 2016, 10:46:22 AM
Hi All,

It's just about that time to test the first version of my new Implosion engine design based on not a Clem misinformation engine but by Viktor Schauberger implosion motor and theories.

This is a video to explain my build.

Tom
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: NRamaswami on April 03, 2016, 08:20:09 AM
Hi Tom..

Why you have removed your video? It could never be seen.
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 03, 2016, 12:08:08 PM
Hi,

Lets just say it's a MIB thing that could happen, yes that's it.

My videos was remove due to the complex design and lets just say goes beyond most claims on this site of overunity!

I will post simple pictures for now on, not while it's running......
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 03, 2016, 08:50:48 PM
Hi All,

Ok working on the main housing to run a loop on the cooking oil into the hydraulic implosion motor.

Still have to adjust pipes and belt drive starter motor.

I'm using a old tire as a safety and to feed the oil back into the bucket form the rim jets.
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 03, 2016, 08:55:22 PM
side view.
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 03, 2016, 09:57:32 PM
Simple picture video:

Tom
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: shylo on April 05, 2016, 10:46:03 AM
Hi Tom, Nice work as always, patiently waiting for the run video.
Just a thought you should maybe think about putting some cross bracing on your uprights,or even just some gussets, maybe you haven't got that far yet.
Looking forward to it.
artv
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: ramset on April 05, 2016, 02:59:54 PM
Tom
Just a thought...

We have never had the opportunity to witness a Clem replication , especially at the hands of someone who has invested

years of their life thru trial, error and intuition towards this goal .

As a matter of fact we hear this all the time as a reason NOT to share around these forums , " yeah I figured it out
and spent years of my life ,Time And Money doing it " .....

regardless the outcome ..your an exceptional fellow indeed !!

Thanks

Chet
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 05, 2016, 08:53:40 PM
Hi All,

Ok doing testing on leaks and lower pump, working really good.

Tom
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: shylo on April 05, 2016, 10:54:18 PM
Hi Tom, Your cone , Is it a cone(smaller dimension) inside a cone ( larger)? Did you incorporate the spirals on the inner cone?
Also that pump at the bottom , I assume in the video you were just spinning by hand to show the pumping action, just outputs from that open port?
I would be worried if ( only outputting on one side like that) that it will cause major balance issues.
I'm sure you are well aware of these issues ,being the builder you are,just thought I'd mention it.
Thanks artv
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 06, 2016, 01:05:21 AM
Hi All,

I added the starter motor to test the balance of the lower pump.

Needs to be balanced!

Tom

Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: pomodoro on April 06, 2016, 01:32:20 AM
Awesome, relentless, effort Tommey!   8)
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 06, 2016, 08:50:06 PM
Hi All,

Did some pre-tests on the amount of electrical loads to verify on later test if I created extra energy in watts.

Tom

Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: ARMCORTEX on April 06, 2016, 09:16:00 PM
If you want money then you should make a nice presentation on gofund me.

Some people got like 5000\$ for not much.
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 06, 2016, 10:10:33 PM
Hi Armcortex,

Where did money come into this video?

I have not ask for a dim, and yet you bring up money?

Tom

Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 08, 2016, 10:16:14 PM
Hello All,

Great news with this implosion motor based on the Clem engine and Viktor Schauberger.

I believe I found the secret of how it works with real data backing up the theory.

Video is uploading to prove the Clem engine was a implosion hydraulic motor that was over unity!

Tom
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 08, 2016, 10:56:25 PM
Hi All,

This is the video showing decreasing power due to heat and centrifugal inertia while it runs.

Tom
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: ramset on April 09, 2016, 01:02:32 AM
Tom
She is running nice and steady !!

you mentioned the power draw when there is no Oil in the system is 3.7 or so amps ??
and even tho you are not yet seeing the temps which are needed you are seeing less input while pumping oil ??

would seem your thoughts on this are starting to be validated !!

run up with no oil 3.7 amps
run while Pumping oil 3.6 amps and dropping as it runs ! [I believe I saw in the High 2 Amp towards the end....
and with Frigid Oil ??

I truly Hope you've done it , you have been at this a long long time !!

Vid here

Chet

Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 09, 2016, 02:16:43 AM
Hi Chet,

These are the numbers while running for a few minutes in the cold.

First test without pumping fluid
Motor/pump test : 114.5V * 3.6A  = 412.2 W

Second test pumping fluid into the upper centrifugal pump.
Motor/pump load: 115.7V * 2.89A = 334.4w

Extra energy gain of :412.2W -- 334.4W =77.8W due to centrifugal force implosion effect.﻿

I believe while the energy input will decrease with this data as the heat builds due to cavitation, the energy will increase and become OVERUNITY!

The rpm is about 3:1, so the rpms of the motor is about 3,400/3 =1133,3 rpm's of the implosion motor.

Will need to increase rpm's above 2,200 rpms, this will really show some energy output.

Tom
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 09, 2016, 04:04:13 AM
Hi All,

Update on whats next with this motor.

Tom
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: ARMCORTEX on April 09, 2016, 12:10:32 PM
That tire thing is pretty dam crappy.

You could have a flywheel getting hit by that stuff.

I like this concept actually, it just makes everything simpler to have a fluid hit stuff.

.
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 09, 2016, 01:10:31 PM
Hi Armcortex,

Prototypes can be very expensive, the tire is simple and does the job and it was also free.

Most people would go with expensive parts and design and find out it's a pretty nothing at the end.

My cost is pennies due to the fact using everyday stuff around the house like wood or recycle aluminum.

I spent enough money in the past to know simple is better to prove any theory.

Tom;-)

Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: ramset on April 09, 2016, 02:46:15 PM
Tom

I think the tire Idea is amazing ,you solved a huge problem  A uniquely shaped  high temperature oil resistant and leak proof collector and at the same time added a steel belted scatter shield.
and did it for Pennies.

I smile every time I think about it ..A true KISS  .....

KISS = Keep It Simple Solution

very Cool indeed.

well actually you have yet to get to the really Hot part ..the Phase or density change which will really need a scatter shield

Bring On the heat !!

fingers crossed that this thing runs away..... 8)

Maybe you should make yourself a fireproof Michelin man safety suit...... :o

Chet K
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 10, 2016, 04:49:27 PM
Hi All,

This is a break down of my motor where it's clear a vacuum is causing the drop in input power.

Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 10, 2016, 10:30:14 PM
Hi All,

http://ultralightamerica.com/Docs/Writings/WR071807.pdf

also someone sent this to me:

"This is interesting. I'll take a look as soon as I get a chance. I talked to Richard on the phone back in...hmm. Can't remember exactly now, but it was probably in the early 80s. I'd heard an interview with him on the radio (KRLD, Dallas?) and he was fine to talk to anyone who believed in what he was doing. He was mostly looking for investors, but talked to me anyway. A lot of things have changed with me since then, but I never forgot him."

Tom
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 10, 2016, 10:56:36 PM
Hi all,

http://www.keelynet.com/energy/clem3.htm

There might be a real patent on the Clem engine.

Tom
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 14, 2016, 04:58:03 PM
Hi All,

After doing more the on the Clem engine experiment, I need to change the design due to not enough vacuum.

For now on, my videos won't be copy in any way, some are posting them without my ok.

So, I closed down my account again.

Now on the Clem engine project I have some redesigning to do, and this new design that will cost more time and money but it will also be one of the best Clem engine that would prove or dis prove the theory.
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 15, 2016, 01:32:24 PM
Hi All,

Many question about the reason I keep closing my accounts on YouTube.

Let me explain that I love what I do, it's the best job that anyone could ever have.

Yes it's a none paying job in the sense of money, but the skills you learn are the real benefit then money.

I have no problem posting on forums like this, it's like posting my work and so on.

But when sites not to name them post my work and keep them in there past files without asking me and to make a library of research where other make a profit is just wrong!

This also makes me to take action to close my youtube account so they won't have any videos to pop up, I have a few people who I really trust like Smartscarecrow show, as for anyone else no way.

They profit off other people work in some way or another, personally that is wrong.

I hope you all can understand where I'm coming from.

Tom
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: Cherryman on April 15, 2016, 05:29:28 PM
Hi Tommy as long as you have fun in what you are doing and learn.. its good fun I agree !

As you are aware i am traveling along the same paths with this Schauberger and related stuff. ( I just make less noise ; )

Here is one of my previous prototypes,  Which spunn nicely.. But not on its own yet ..  But Im working on an improved model

The whole thing is suspended by opposite magnetic poles to reduce friction and wear. I use a tesla turbine for converting the vacuum into rotation.   Althoug it works..  the finetuning is not very easy..  I should design a small scal CVT to tune it : )

Keep up the good work !

Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: NRamaswami on April 15, 2016, 05:46:37 PM
Hi Tom:

I think these are the Clem Patents.. Please check if this is correct. Hope you find this useful.

Regards,

Ramaswami

Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 15, 2016, 07:50:08 PM
Hay thanks Npamaswami,

Good patents, but did not see Richard Claim on them but to thanks.

Cherryman, looks good and hats off for someone else will to research these claims.

CR2 forums don't respect  inventors, and even kick me off their site after I call them lots of names after they try to bully me, To bad  they could have learn to get their hands dirty.

Tom
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: NRamaswami on April 16, 2016, 02:27:46 AM
Hay thanks Npamaswami,

Good patents, but did not see Richard Claim on them but to thanks.

Cherryman, looks good and hats off for someone else will to research these claims.

CR2 forums don't respect  inventors, and even kick me off their site after I call them lots of names after they try to bully me, To bad  they could have learn to get their hands dirty.

Tom

Tom

I am Ramaswami not pamaswami..just call me Rams if you wish..

Pse go through the keelynet link you gave above where Richard Clems daughter says patents were filed in the name of other people for security reasons.

These are the Clem patents. The filing date matches and how to produce sufficient vaccum is indicated clearly. The subject matter matches

Rams
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 16, 2016, 03:51:39 AM
Hi ram,

I do recall now that it was patented under a different name,  your right.

I will look them over, thanks

Tom
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: markdansie on April 16, 2016, 11:42:27 AM
Hi All,

Many question about the reason I keep closing my accounts on YouTube.

Let me explain that I love what I do, it's the best job that anyone could ever have.

Yes it's a none paying job in the sense of money, but the skills you learn are the real benefit then money.

I have no problem posting on forums like this, it's like posting my work and so on.

But when sites not to name them post my work and keep them in there past files without asking me and to make a library of research where other make a profit is just wrong!

This also makes me to take action to close my youtube account so they won't have any videos to pop up, I have a few people who I really trust like Smartscarecrow show, as for anyone else no way.

They profit off other people work in some way or another, personally that is wrong.

I hope you all can understand where I'm coming from.

Tom
Hi Tommey
If you are refereeing to Revolution Green we have been a strong supporter of yours from many years. It is a not fro profit site and runs at a small loss. It is a non censored site so everyone's opinion or view can be heard.
Kind Regards
Mark Dansie
Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: TommeyLReed on April 16, 2016, 01:19:07 PM
Hi Mark,

Looking at the past comments on your site, I can see other like JC is now on the attack.

Don't know if he's part of your group and I really don't care at this point.

Now as for posting things that was not correct does happen and one way to stop it was to change my youtube channel instead of getting in to a useless debate.

There are a few people who in fact do make money off other people work, maybe it's not your site but to name one:

Founder and CEO of PES Network, Inc. and the New Energy Congress, and founder of the New Energy Systems Trust (NEST).

Tom

Title: Re: Building the Clem Engine With Vicktor Schauberger Implosion Theories
Post by: markdansie on April 16, 2016, 02:58:54 PM
Ok Tommey
I am in China next 3 days I will sort out the site.
The other site you mentioned is in jail

None of the readers and commentators are part of my group, but many are friends. Some are rude

Kind Regards
Mark