How it works
We developed a simplified planetary gear system with multiple shafts that have our magnets in them. Each magnet can pick up over 2500 pounds each. There are several magnets per shaft, and when they are in the proper position they begin to spin. This will cause a push pull type of effect that has worked quite well for over 2 1/2 years. Then we surround the unit with the field coils to generate the power.
There is no official state nickname.[17] However, Missouri's unofficial nickname is the "Show Me State", which appears on its license plates (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_registration_plates_of_Missouri). This phrase has several origins. One is popularly ascribed to a speech by Congressman Willard Vandiver (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willard_Vandiver) in 1899, who declared that "I come from a state that raises corn and cotton, cockleburs and Democrats, and frothy eloquence neither convinces nor satisfies me. I'm from Missouri, and you have got to show me." This is in keeping with the saying "I'm from Missouri" which means "I'm skeptical of the matter and not easily convinced."From WIKI.
I see that they are from Missouri. How ironic...
I'll put up $200 if anyone is serious about tackling this lion.I'll put it up, too.
if this really works, someone should open one up and see whats inside.....What if the Tamper Protection kicks in and and obliterates the unit ...or it explodes in your face?
What if the Tamper Protection kicks in and and obliterates the unit ...or it explodes in your face?
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-u-plug-green-generator#/story (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-u-plug-green-generator#/story)
There are also dealership pricing packages for those who want to help us and grow your business at the same time.
Our 10 pack or more generator packages allow our subscribers to become distributors. As distributors, we will work with you to help you be successful in retailing the U-Plug Green generators. In accordance with that goal, there will be semi-annual reviews to evaluate the performance of our distributors, making recommendations and changes as needed.
https://youtu.be/KP3C0vwQv4Y (https://youtu.be/KP3C0vwQv4Y)
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-u-plug-green-generator#/story (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-u-plug-green-generator#/story)
, there will be semi-annual reviews to evaluate the performance of our distributors, making recommendations and changes as needed.
well
as yet they have not actually answered the Phone [answering machine]
testing at Jet propulsion labs and NASA /homeland security are interesting
if they avoided the "Patent trap" it would be interesting how those who pull the strings on global warming will
react to an obvious solution ?
Who is this Joe guy you mentioned ?
http://www.halexandria.org/dward177.htm (http://www.halexandria.org/dward177.htm)
We draw straws to see who is the lucky one. ;)I can assure you that you don't want to put too much weight on an IP location. I wouldn't even consider that for a moment in determining validity of this device.
I'd rather look at a patent to see how it works, but seriously, if I have to pop the top off one of them tubes after running a harsh overnight test on it first, I'd do it. Maybe make a video of the U-Plug untubing. ;D
I did a little poking around this evening and it smells a little fishy to me still, though I did get an email response from them--they would like to know my location so they can have a local dealer rep speak with me. Hmmmm....
I tracked the originating IP and it came from Provo, UT. Could Tim be visiting Sterling Allen? One wonders...
http://www.iptrackeronline.com/index.php?ip_address=69.89.31.140 (http://www.iptrackeronline.com/index.php?ip_address=69.89.31.140)
We shall see. Probably end up in the Keshe bin, but like Chet said, no stone unturned.
This is just another "energy from magnets" con and I posted that on their YouTube clip and the comment was removed. There has got to be several hundred of these types of cons pulled off each year.Don't you think that if people are doing such cons so openly on a place like indiegogo.com that they are putting their selves at considerable risk of prosecution and jail time for fraud - especially since they are based in the U.S. and not in Canada like GDS?
The clue is in the language that is used on their web site. They are incapable of properly expressing themselves when it comes to electrical power and electrical energy and related matters. This is very similar to what we see with GDS Technologies.
It's just a big white PVC tube being used as a prop to sucker money from gullible people.
Don't you think that if people are doing such cons so openly on a place like indiegogo.com that they are putting their selves at considerable risk of prosecution and jail time for fraud - especially since they are based in the U.S. and not in Canada like GDS?
True Dat !!
MH
when was the last time a claimant cited jet propulsion Labs ...NASA and home land security in their Vetting process ?
as well as 8x10 glossy's [you tube Vid] identifying principles and staff ?
Chet K
Conrad
You sound like you have a quite unique perspective ?
Perhaps from the point of view of a homeless person with nothing to loose , or take ??
The possible repercussions for this marketing too and scamming the average man [blue collar worker] ....would be very very risky indeed !
on many levels !
Just one mans opinion..
and personal experience !
Chet K
The risk running a scam is smaller than e.g. being a honest electrician or builder.You forgot to consider, that such scammers have no recourse when they get robbed.
Not adding up...
Here's a 1300+ lbs pull-force magnet:
http://www.magnet4less.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_5&products_id=953
6" x 4" x 2" --- $535 a piece.
These kind of magnets on a shaft fitting inside a tube...?
Nope. And even if you could do it, the price for the magnets alone would put the whole device way over $1800.
Then we have the 2000 watt pure sine wave inverter. One of those alone is about $1800.
http://www.kansaswindpower.net/Inverters.htm
Then the weight of the whole U-Plug, less than 20 pounds...?
Starting to sound like a bullshit story to me.
Maybe some one else has figured out that the magnetic force !is! a flow of virtual charged particles(which are created by actual charged particles),and have found a way to put them to work.
something similar to a continuous loop of falling dominoes. Because of the gears, they are constantly reset. Instead of falling linearly, they fall radially
Where you getting your prices from Dog-One ?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Pure-Sine-Wave-Inverter-2000-Watt-12VDC-to-230-VAC-CAR-Mobile-Power-Supply-NEW-/281861958295?hash=item41a0482a97:g:etsAAOSwZVhWTo0Q
I see a lot of (hard to get out of) claims being made on there web site.
Run with this one Chet,--see where it go's.
Maybe some one else has figured out that the magnetic force !is! a flow of virtual charged particles(which are created by actual charged particles),and have found a way to put them to work.
Brad
Funny they don't mention that in their sales info.
Bill
This will never work as claimed. I know why and so do they.
Sorry, I just had to say it. So far, TK has been correct every time he has said it so...I am going with the odds on this one, along with some common sense observations.
Maybe this whole U-Plug thing is just a hint, not an actual product.
Brad, you're good with mechanical devices. Tim mentions a simplified planetary gear. I'm thinking simplified means removal of the sun gear. So lets say we have two identical ends, shafts connecting the planetary gears on each side, brackets on each side to keep the planetary gears locked into the ring gear and the tube connecting the ring gears. On the shafts we mount magnets. The rotating magnets on the shafts are timed via the planetary gears and the ring gear. The idea here is the ring gear forces the direction of rotation. So suppose the magnets on the shaft are aligned via the gear teeth to always repel each other--we will call one magnet the pusher and the other magnet the pushie, in respect of their direction of rotation around the ring gear. The pusher magnet's vector force is "into" the ring gear, so it doesn't really want to back up. The pushie magnet's vector force is pretty much inline with the curvature of the ring gear, so it freely moves forward.
Let's suppose we have six shafts each with magnets and a planetary gear on each end so the proximity of the magnets is fairly close together. The brackets on each end preserve the spacing and the ring gear is of appropriate size to fit all this in without the planetary gears hitting or magnets physically touching each other. The magnets themselves could be cylinder magnets with a hole bored through them for the shaft and radially magnetized. There is probably a critical relationship between the diameter of these magnets and the diameter of the planetary gears.
What I picture in my mind is something similar to a continuous loop of falling dominoes. Because of the gears, they are constantly reset. Instead of falling linearly, they fall radially.
I don't know if any of this rambling makes any sense to anyone. I don't have the mechanical abilities to assemble a prototype, though I could probably design the basics of it in CAD, maybe even animate it with enough practice. Just tossing the thought out there that this U-Plug isn't the Holy Grail but there could be an idea embedded in all the hogwash that is. Maybe it's a clue how to actually design a magnet motor. I'd like to know if someone that understands what I'm saying has the mechanical wherewithal to actually find out.
1. They claim that the magnets + geartrain weigh 7 pounds. This alone is not plausible, for magnets of the strength claimed.
2. They claim to have had the device tested at JPL, under the supervision of NASA and DHS. Yet the "US Government" only ordered a couple of units, rather than immediately giving them a big contract, or inviting them for "tea, no biscuits" like some other people have been invited ;) . And their YT video is still up.....
5. No news on Fox or CNN about this miracle device
None of this is proof that they don't have what they claim, of course. But come on ... if you showed YOUR government a self running magnet motor coupled to a generator that could power 2 kW of load, without any input, two years ago... what do you think would happen to _you_ by now? Would you still be trying to raise money by crowdfunding, and posting YT videos to try to drum up sales? I don't think so... and neither do you, I'll bet.
By the way, Ed Mitchell died yesterday, may he rest in peace. So that's one less moon-walker for you to worry about.
2-kicking back in the Bahamas
3-Doing what i could without stirring up the ants nest-so to speak.
That is exactly my point. Maybe Tim knows there is simply no way to move forward, so he elected to throw us a bone without directly "stirring up the ants nest", then took the easy way out.
And I do like your planetary arrangement better than mine. The more I think about it, I suppose it could be possible to stuff just the needed components in there. One would have to expect a rough prototype to be much less optimized and quite a bit larger than a finely tuned final product.
We still don't have any sort of background on Tim, so who knows what and who he is connected to, what his skills are or what he is capable of. If he has any association with JPL or NASA, it's likely he was "advised" as to what his options are.
I'll be very surprised if this U-Plug device sees the light of day. I'm hopeful, but not real optimistic.
Instead, I think we will have to take what we got up to now and see if there is any way to make something of it. Bugger.
The government has nothing to do with that. If they have they would prevent any solar panels too.
The government has nothing to do with that. If they have they would prevent any solar panels too.
How would a government do that??
By keeping the price of the materials used to make solar panels at a price average equivalent to the cost of electricity or BTU equivalent of Oil??
Our government would never do that,..........
Rotating magnets is a waste of time. :P
That's why the magnets do not rotate in this design!
It's like when you have two magnets suspended on string and attracting each other with a gap between them.
Then using flat copper, rapidly pulled from the slot, the magnets tend to follow the copper as the retained field is held in the copper and pulls on the magnets.
What are the results when the magnets are not attracting but repelling, and the copper is pulled? Are the magnets instead pushed opposite the pulling direction?
Just the fact that they are asking for money sounds the alarm bells to me.
It would be like someone inventing a way to turn any metal into gold (alchemy) and then saying they are broke and need money, its just stupid... if you have the goose that lays golden eggs... why ask someone else for gold?
I shall further compound this by stating that when the magnets are in repulsion, and a moving plate of copper passes quickly between them, they will attract to the copper, within a range of forces, and when the copper leaves their near-field, the magnets will again repel each other.
Through many years of testing magnetic interactions I believe it to be impossible to build a magnetic motor, but still every time someone makes a claim of such a device I always wonder what I may have missed.
I think this one needs to be filed in the bin.
That guy using it on a WELDER sure makes it look REAL to me.
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Yes it looks real, but they need to change the name to "U-Plug in the top and I-Plug in the bottom"
That guy using it on a WELDER sure makes it look REAL to me.
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Demand a viewing where you simply check for hidden wires and then let it power a 2000 watt heater you supply as a load on a table you also sipply for 12 hours. No multi meters etc. Just a very good check for hidden wires. He won't do it, because he can't.That's essentially what I was thinking although you'll find most portable heaters rated at 1500 watts and that would be better since it is a bit under the 2000 watt rating so they can't say you are pushing it's limits. If anyone here is good with calculations of how many joules of energy you could cram into that tube in the way of Li-ion batteries (highest common power per volume battery available that I know of) and how long they would be able to run a heater before running down that would be good. My instinct is they wouldn't last more than a couple hours without running the numbers. Then propose to U-plug doing this test and see what they say.
I think he's done a runner ;) ;)
A note to Tim Slavings
I know you are very busy with things At the moment ,and I know after speaking with you again last night that you are not happy with what is transpiring here.
Oh-his web site is gone ::)
$23,455 raised on indiegogo so far :D
I think he's done a runner ;) ;)
His website and YT video still seem to be there when I check:
http://u-plugproducts.com/web/faq.php
http://u-plugproducts.com/
The Indiegogo campaign is closed, falling far short of what he asked for, but with "flexible funding" he didn't need to get the full requested amount in order to get funded.
Just get -web page not available when i click on the links
Second, assuming for the sake of argument that batteries could be put into a six inch diameter, 24 inch tall cylinder, the batteries would lose power within minutes running through an inverter to convert DC to AC power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_ivXDLdKnE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_ivXDLdKnE)
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It's a dud -a scam FatBird.
To much bullshit for it to be anything real. Just saying that they have magnets in there with a pull force of over 1.3 ton's tells you it's crap right up. How do you think they placed these magnets into position,when those magnets would see forces against each other in excess of that 1.3 ton's. ::)
The mechanics involved in keeping those magnets securely in place could not fit into that little tube.
But now how to stop this scam going any further?-->how to save the people that have fallen for this rubbish there money?. It's happening all to often now,and when some one really dose have something worth while trying to raise funds,the bank will be empty.
It's sad-very sad that people like this get away with this all the time.
Brad
when some one really dose have something worth while trying to raise funds,the bank will be empty.
Brad
Brad:
I agree 100%! I suppose, all we can do is to try to get the word out on these scams as best we can. It burns me too that decent, hard working folks are getting bilked out of their money by these scumbags. It also makes the rest of us that are doing any kind of real, honest research look like scumbags too. They give everyone a bad name.
Hey, maybe we should form a type of "hit squad" that just shows up at their door one day to beats the crap out of them? Sooner or later, maybe they will get the message.
Bill
They crap or get off the pot. It works or we bury them.
I love how they always focus on use cases and not the actual device. Take it camping, power your laptop....
IF YOU JUST INVENTED AN INFINITE ENERGY DEVICE IN 24 HOURS YOU WOULD BE HEADLINE NEWS AND ON THE FRONT COVER OF EVERY NEWS PAPER AND MAGAZINE IN THE WORLD AND NOT FOCUS ON THE FACT IT HAS A STRAP AND YOU CAN CARRY IT OVER YOUR SHOULDER.
If you possessed a machine that created free energy, you would sell the energy, NOT the device.
Testing in this case would be very simple , even easier than the TPU [which overheated after a few hours and needed to cool]they boldly took down their online flea market booth from what i understand.
this device is claimed to run for years at a few Horsepower [and then some]
I know it is just idle small talk here [about other kinds of visits] however
I personally have no idea how people that do take from the unsuspecting [not making any claims about Tim Slavings here] can even walk around in public with out looking over their shoulder.
I can guarantee you that most average fellows when presented with a working product for sale .. plunk down their hard earned cash [as buyers NOT INVESTORS] .
are gonna come knocking when the excuses run out...
and you can take that to the Bank !!
Suppose I had a 3-ft, 8-inch plastic tube, that weighs 20lbs..
what would I put inside that could do what is shown in their videos??
hmm... lets take this lithium AA battery here, (2500mA-Hr) weighs 0.033lbs
that means I can put ~600 of them in the tube, and be within the 20 lb limit.
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If I arranged these in rows of 80-cells (shooting for the 120v range)
I could make 7 rows.
2.5 Amp-Hrs x 7 = 17.5 Amp-Hrs @ 120v DC = 2.1 Kw/Hrs of electricity.
portable, and hell, I could use the rechargeable kind and give it a power plug to re-charge.
Now theres a choice to be made,,, do I plainly disclose its' contents? (which limits its' market value to the cost of plastic, and $500 worth of batteries)
or just paint it black, put a nice sticker on it, and sell it "as is" for $2k
hmm.......
This is completely open source, feel free to copy any or part of what I propose here, to put inside your own You (Plug) tube.
Good thinking. How about 3.7 volt 18650 3,500 mAh cells? I have been playing with them lately and it is amazing how much energy is packed in there. 4 of them will jump start a car. What would 50 of these do in the tube? You could run your fridge or washing machine from it for a while. This must be overunity then, ha ha.
Bill
Just get -web page not available when i click on the links
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Blog:_U-Plug_Third_Party_Test_March_26%2C_2016 (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Blog:_U-Plug_Third_Party_Test_March_26%2C_2016)
Ought to be an interesting get-together. You all take some pictures for us.
http://pesn.com/2016/02/20/9602722_U-Plug_Seeking_Good_Third-Party-Testing-Entity/ (http://pesn.com/2016/02/20/9602722_U-Plug_Seeking_Good_Third-Party-Testing-Entity/)
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Sterling may find it a little difficult to attend the get-together.
So do the cops let you take your computer to jail with you?
He's online on Skype right now.
I made a u-plug total cost $17.50 cents. I need to buy some conduit to put my 2 * 6 volt batteries in but I think that is a non functional requirement.
Powers my laptop quite nicely but not sure what I do when the batteries go flat.
Sterling may find it a little difficult to attend the get-together.
http://freeenergyscams.com/sterling-d-allan-a-partner-with-andrea-rossi-and-his-e-cat-fraud-was-arrested-2-22-2016/ (http://freeenergyscams.com/sterling-d-allan-a-partner-with-andrea-rossi-and-his-e-cat-fraud-was-arrested-2-22-2016/)
Sterling may find it a little difficult to attend the get-together.
http://freeenergyscams.com/sterling-d-allan-a-partner-with-andrea-rossi-and-his-e-cat-fraud-was-arrested-2-22-2016/
WOW this deserves a separate thread.