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Author Topic: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator  (Read 35884 times)

Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #90 on: February 13, 2016, 04:19:09 AM »
It's a dud -a scam FatBird.
To much bullshit for it to be anything real. Just saying that they have magnets in there with a pull force of over 1.3 ton's tells you it's crap right up. How do you think they placed these magnets into position,when those magnets would see forces against each other in excess of that 1.3 ton's. ::)
The mechanics involved in keeping those magnets securely in place could not fit into that little tube.

But now how to stop this scam going any further?-->how to save the people that have fallen for this rubbish there money?. It's happening all to often now,and when some one really dose have something worth while trying to raise funds,the bank will be empty.

It's sad-very sad that people like this get away with this all the time.


Brad

Brad:

I agree 100%!  I suppose, all we can do is to try to get the word out on these scams as best we can.  It burns me too that decent, hard working folks are getting bilked out of their money by these scumbags.  It also makes the rest of us that are doing any kind of real, honest research look like scumbags too.  They give everyone a bad name.

Hey, maybe we should form a type of "hit squad" that just shows up at their door one day to beats the crap out of them?  Sooner or later, maybe they will get the message.

Bill

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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #91 on: February 13, 2016, 09:50:43 AM »
when some one really dose have something worth while trying to raise funds,the bank will be empty.

Brad

what would be the point in "selling" a free energy technology?
That makes the energy itself "not free".....

There is no money to be made in this field. The fact that these people are trying to "sell" anything, shows you right there it is a scam.

It's very simple - When free energy is available to the public, people STOP BUYING ENERGY!!!
the market collapses.

Theres nothing to sell.

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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #92 on: February 13, 2016, 09:52:13 AM »
Brad:

I agree 100%!  I suppose, all we can do is to try to get the word out on these scams as best we can.  It burns me too that decent, hard working folks are getting bilked out of their money by these scumbags.  It also makes the rest of us that are doing any kind of real, honest research look like scumbags too.  They give everyone a bad name.

Hey, maybe we should form a type of "hit squad" that just shows up at their door one day to beats the crap out of them?  Sooner or later, maybe they will get the message.

Bill

count me in !!

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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #92 on: February 13, 2016, 09:52:13 AM »
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Offline Dog-One

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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #93 on: February 13, 2016, 11:18:32 AM »
Is I said at the beginning of this thread:

They crap or get off the pot.  It works or we bury them.


That's the way it has to be.  Myself, I have spent way too much time and effort tinkering.  If this Free Energy stuff truly does have a solution, lets find it, build it, understand it, use it and get on with our lives.  If it does not, lets be sure, then put this all to bed.

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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #94 on: February 13, 2016, 12:18:14 PM »
It's a good thing we and everybody else know that you are just joking, Bill.

The only kind of "hit squad" I want to see is the kind that has a truckload of test equipment, shows up and _tests_ the crap out of the claimed devices. And then reports everything publicly for criticism and review.

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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #94 on: February 13, 2016, 12:18:14 PM »
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Offline Acca

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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #95 on: February 13, 2016, 01:54:13 PM »
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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #96 on: February 13, 2016, 02:03:15 PM »
Testing in this case would be very simple , even easier than the TPU [which overheated after a few hours and needed to cool]

this device is claimed to run for years at a few Horsepower [and then some]

I know it is just idle small talk here [about other kinds of visits] however

I personally have no idea how people that do take from the unsuspecting [not making any claims about Tim Slavings here] can even walk around in public with out looking over their shoulder.

I can guarantee you that most average fellows when presented with a working product for sale .. plunk down their hard earned cash [as buyers NOT INVESTORS] .

are gonna come knocking when the excuses run out... 

and you can take that to the Bank !!

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Offline Nink

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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #97 on: February 13, 2016, 10:14:19 PM »
I love how they always focus on use cases and not the actual device.  Take it camping, power your laptop....

IF YOU JUST INVENTED AN INFINITE ENERGY DEVICE IN 24 HOURS YOU WOULD BE HEADLINE NEWS AND ON THE FRONT COVER OF EVERY NEWS PAPER AND MAGAZINE IN THE WORLD AND NOT FOCUS ON THE FACT IT HAS A STRAP AND YOU CAN CARRY IT OVER YOUR SHOULDER.

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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #98 on: February 13, 2016, 10:33:44 PM »
I love how they always focus on use cases and not the actual device.  Take it camping, power your laptop....

IF YOU JUST INVENTED AN INFINITE ENERGY DEVICE IN 24 HOURS YOU WOULD BE HEADLINE NEWS AND ON THE FRONT COVER OF EVERY NEWS PAPER AND MAGAZINE IN THE WORLD AND NOT FOCUS ON THE FACT IT HAS A STRAP AND YOU CAN CARRY IT OVER YOUR SHOULDER.

It is an interesting situation, in the world of FE scammers. There have been so many false or disproven claims of FE, that in order to stand out these days, you must have a unique nitche, or special use application that attract people to your false technology.
Otherwise, you are simply dismissed as another fruit claiming he has broken the "laws" of physics.

the media has done so many stories about FE techs that turned out to be nothing, or the inventor mysteriously died leaving no further information to report.

Its a bit of a risk for the media to chase down these stories, especially when they have not been publicly verified first. To get into the news, you need something unique, to make your device stand out from all the rest. It's like Marketing.

or course, if a device actually functioned and produced "FE", none of this would even matter.
you wouldn't need gimmicks, and product branding. Hell, your "product" would not even BE the device...

Anyone in their right mind can clearly understand that the commodity is NOT the device that makes the energy.. it is the energy ITSELF!!!!

If you possessed a machine that created free energy, you would sell the energy, NOT the device.

no one sells powerplants.... 

granted, batteries give a unique special use case, in that they are portable.
That is what gives them their "value". aside from the physical materials involved, the battery contains some quantity of the energy commodity. That you can carry around with you.
Even the rechargeable kind, you purchase the commodity from the power company, to place into the portable storage device.

Would you sell a flock of golden egg laying geese?

or would you sell your eggs?

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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #98 on: February 13, 2016, 10:33:44 PM »
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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #99 on: February 15, 2016, 07:44:09 PM »
If you possessed a machine that created free energy, you would sell the energy, NOT the device.

I think you nailed it.

One of the big challenges though is the need for infrastructure to move the power from the generation plant to the location required and the ability to store the power and finally to generate power on demand (It's not windy or sunny or .. when I need it)

Electricity has a grid available but if you do create free energy you will need to pay the owner of the grid to distribute it so your free energy is no longer free and the monopolies that own them would make sure your free energy is the same price if not more than the traditional methods.

This is probably what makes these portable device concepts or privately owned power stations so interesting to consumers.  Pay a one time price and you don't have to worry about paying any more so they are continually scammed by this model. 


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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #100 on: February 16, 2016, 07:39:25 PM »
Testing in this case would be very simple , even easier than the TPU [which overheated after a few hours and needed to cool]

this device is claimed to run for years at a few Horsepower [and then some]

I know it is just idle small talk here [about other kinds of visits] however

I personally have no idea how people that do take from the unsuspecting [not making any claims about Tim Slavings here] can even walk around in public with out looking over their shoulder.

I can guarantee you that most average fellows when presented with a working product for sale .. plunk down their hard earned cash [as buyers NOT INVESTORS] .

are gonna come knocking when the excuses run out... 

and you can take that to the Bank !!
they boldly took down their online flea market booth from what i understand.
nobody trusts the scammers integrity surrounding them anyway.
after being contacted 6 months after the sound of hearing crickets, still nothing new was brought to the table. a evaluation was performed based on their deceptive vacation looking advertising that lacked any meaningful proof, and a day or so later they tried to remove themselve$ from the radar literally saying something to the effect that they are taking their 2000 watt device on a extended vacation after not being pleased at all at how people are beginning to question the marketers honesty and integrity surrounding the 24000.00 USD that was scammed from previous investors who once believed in them.

bold was how they used the word vacation to decribe their intent.
looks like 24 grand can sure afford for a vacation, even if they are not willing to play honest nor transparent.

as they now try to moreless fade into profitable obscurity..
they lied on their fundraiser about claiming to have a working device.
they really do OWE their funders a very acceptable excuse to possibly avoid any repo trucks showing up from midnight auto parts.

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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #100 on: February 16, 2016, 07:39:25 PM »
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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #101 on: February 24, 2016, 12:32:56 AM »
Suppose I had a 3-ft, 8-inch plastic tube, that weighs 20lbs..

what would I put inside that could do what is shown in their videos??

hmm... lets take this lithium AA battery here, (2500mA-Hr) weighs 0.033lbs
that means I can put ~600 of them in the tube, and be within the 20 lb limit.

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If I arranged these in rows of 80-cells (shooting for the 120v range)
I could make 7 rows.
2.5 Amp-Hrs x 7 = 17.5 Amp-Hrs @ 120v DC = 2.1 Kw/Hrs of electricity.
portable, and hell, I could use the rechargeable kind and give it a power plug to re-charge.

Now theres a choice to be made,,, do I plainly disclose its' contents? (which limits its' market value to the cost of plastic, and $500 worth of batteries)
or just paint it black, put a nice sticker on it, and sell it "as is" for $2k
hmm.......

This is completely open source, feel free to copy any or part of what I propose here, to put inside your own You (Plug) tube.


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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #102 on: February 24, 2016, 12:39:10 AM »
do the math with 20lbs worth of CR2050 button cells  :)

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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #103 on: February 24, 2016, 02:42:05 AM »
Suppose I had a 3-ft, 8-inch plastic tube, that weighs 20lbs..

what would I put inside that could do what is shown in their videos??

hmm... lets take this lithium AA battery here, (2500mA-Hr) weighs 0.033lbs
that means I can put ~600 of them in the tube, and be within the 20 lb limit.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

If I arranged these in rows of 80-cells (shooting for the 120v range)
I could make 7 rows.
2.5 Amp-Hrs x 7 = 17.5 Amp-Hrs @ 120v DC = 2.1 Kw/Hrs of electricity.
portable, and hell, I could use the rechargeable kind and give it a power plug to re-charge.

Now theres a choice to be made,,, do I plainly disclose its' contents? (which limits its' market value to the cost of plastic, and $500 worth of batteries)
or just paint it black, put a nice sticker on it, and sell it "as is" for $2k
hmm.......

This is completely open source, feel free to copy any or part of what I propose here, to put inside your own You (Plug) tube.

Good thinking.  How about 3.7 volt 18650 3,500 mAh cells?  I have been playing with them lately and it is amazing how much energy is packed in there.  4 of them will jump start a car.  What would 50 of these do in the tube?  You could run your fridge or washing machine from it for a while.  This must be overunity then, ha ha.

Bill

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Re: Is the free energy gamechanger here ? 2000 Watts u-plug generator
« Reply #104 on: February 24, 2016, 02:57:42 AM »
Good thinking.  How about 3.7 volt 18650 3,500 mAh cells?  I have been playing with them lately and it is amazing how much energy is packed in there.  4 of them will jump start a car.  What would 50 of these do in the tube?  You could run your fridge or washing machine from it for a while.  This must be overunity then, ha ha.

Bill

take the weight of the batteries, and divide 20lbs by this number.
That tells you how many cells can be used within the 20lb limit.
the weight is more limiting than the size of the tube, we can fit a lot more in the given space.

from there, determine how to step up the voltage, either through a pulsed DC to AC rectifier, or just direct series current.
once you know how many series battery are in each "stack", divide the total number of batteries by the number of batteries per stack.
then you know how many parallel stacks you can make, thus giving you your total mAh operating time.


 

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