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Offline franco malgarini

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LENR and phluorescent tubes
« on: February 02, 2016, 02:37:36 PM »

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LENR and phluorescent tubes
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Re: LENR and phluorescent tubes
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2016, 04:18:23 PM »
It ''s all about power ...

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Re: LENR and phluorescent tubes
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2016, 06:46:56 PM »
It ''s all about power ...

@franco malgarini:

I looked at the theory of LENR in fluorescent tubes. As far as I understand, the Low Energy Nuclear Reaction (transmutation) happens very rarely in the fluorescent tube during normal operation. So, one does not have to do anything special (just light the tube in the normal way e.g. with 220 V AC) and the LENR is happening very very rare.

Therefore I do not understand the reasoning behind your drawing. The generated heat in the tube will be more than negligible (practically zero) and the coil around the tube (around the water tube, not even around the fluorescent tube) does not have any function, unless you hope to increase the LENR in the gas of the fluorescent tube by that coil? And if you want to heat water with a coil (induction heating) one can omit the fluorescent tube in the middle.

It is very hard to see a reasonable argument behind your drawing? What should cause the miracle LENR in an apparatus according to your drawing?

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: LENR and phluorescent tubes
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Re: LENR and phluorescent tubes
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2016, 07:14:49 PM »
We make accelerating the lenr reaction (electron+proton=neutron).
The problem is the power of tube: HT, 220 volts,ballast or other....

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Re: LENR and phluorescent tubes
« Reply #4 on: February 03, 2016, 01:18:37 AM »
Here are ref points.. You are good..
 http://coolfusion.org/ACS2011-XMute.pdf
 
http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/GrabiakIE92.pdf
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8PaotLePJU
 
Acca..
 
 Ps you are dead on with your tubeā€¦[/font]

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Re: LENR and phluorescent tubes
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Re: LENR and phluorescent tubes
« Reply #5 on: February 03, 2016, 01:06:40 PM »
We make accelerating the lenr reaction (electron+proton=neutron).
The problem is the power of tube: HT, 220 volts,ballast or other....

You could light the fluorescent tube with a "negative tros" circuit. It is a Joule Thief btype circuit which oscillates at about 500 KHz (if you wind a coil as specified on a 50 mm PVC tube).

I do not know if 500 KHz at about 1000 V are better than 50 Hz at 220 V, but I see people experimenting with "lightning bursts" in gas filled tubes with fancy electrodes. But that looks more like electric arc welding. Well, 500 KHz gives a lot more lightning bolts in the fluorescent tube than 50 Hz or DC.

Do not blame me, if it does not increase LENRs in your fluorescent tube, but the tube will light up nicely.

Question: The coil around the water pipe (in your drawing), how are you driving this one? High frequency, high current or DC?

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: LENR and phluorescent tubes
« Reply #6 on: February 03, 2016, 04:02:16 PM »
example of my reactor,

BAC coil?



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Re: LENR and phluorescent tubes
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2016, 01:22:43 PM »
This system is very unlikely to ever work. Lets not even worry about generating  nuclear reactions in the fluoro tube  as yet.
 Even an introduced radioactive substance in the tube will produce nothing from the coil.  Why is that? Well , because the charged particles from the radiation will all need to be traveling in the same direction with their own momentum. They must not  be influenced by any electric field to do so for a net gain.  In reality they will be flying in all directions, not just in direction of the ions, cancelling any hope of current. 

Ponder for a while on the fact  that even if you throw the highly radioactive  Po 210 in the tube with gas (in the hope of generating a massive amount of  secondary avalanche electrons), all you are doing is making the tube more conductive.

 Lets shield one side of the Po210 with lead, then all alpha particles will fly out in one direction! As an exercise work out the coulombs  obtainable from a few grams of Po 210 with all of its alpha particles all traveling in the same direction.  You will be very surprized at how very little current this is, although its from a very active source...

 

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