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« Reply #135 on: December 19, 2018, 10:11:41 AM »

hi Nick
i agree, i think you're right on both counts-

 - conserving energy is good, but just that on its own wouldn't be the road to a self-runner

 - re-cycling energy to do additional work (ie. extra to what you would have expected to do, on the usual single-pass conversion of energy) appears to be opening up the n > 100% door for us

'overunity' can apply to work regardless of any limitations on energy, and i guess that we'll find plenty of ways to re-cycle packets of energy if we start looking


good luck with your Stiffler double-diode ideas

energy is more slippery than jello on a hot plate - make sure you have a good bucket handy

np

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« Reply #136 on: January 05, 2019, 12:19:02 AM »
The 2 battery-rundown graphs below provide further confirmation that a proportion of the energy being stored in this circuit is then getting recycled back into the supply storage (rechargeable battery or capacitor) - this recycled energy becomes available to do extra work, eg. by extending the battery runtime at the same power rate

the WiThFeedback circuit has extended the active runtime from the battery to approx 120%, compared to the same circuit when the feedback (read 'Looped') connection is removed

the useful battery voltage range here is taken to be 3.7V down to 3.4V (at which point the Output DC drive level starts to reduce sharply, slightly delayed from the battery voltage decrease

the unlooped circuit runs for  48s  and the WiThFeedback circuit runs for  58s,  providing 20% more work at a comparable level


for these tests, i'm using a pancake coil to generate the pulses (having already successfully tested the circuit with solenoidal, toroidal & multi-core transformers) - the pancake coil is centre-tapped (to form the common connection between primary & secondary), basket-weave, approx 30 turns of 0.45mm copper (aka magnet wire), approx 20mm ID, 75mm OD

it appears to give similar results with or without an adjacent ferrite 'core', but these results are from the tests with ferrite


i suspect that this WiThFeedback circuit concept is not novel...

as usual, Tesla got there first with his Oscillator-Shuttle-Circuits, 'bleeding' or 'siphoning off' a proportion of the total energy being shuttled between 'floating' grounds (see Barrett's paper, submitted to the Louis de Broglie Foundation in the 1990s, discussing Telsa's OSC theory)


TAKE NOTE
i'm happy to continue discussing other member's attempts (with real hardware, not Sim) to replicate the results i'm getting - i think i've provided more than enough detail already - you have now got way more info than i had when i started out on this journey!

i will NOT be entering into discussion with anyone who offers cliches, strawman arguments, appeals to authority, unsupported opinions, etc, etc in place of 'terse & technical' comments related to specific results reported in this thread


"The person who says it cannot be done, should not interrupt the person doing it"

np

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« Reply #137 on: January 07, 2019, 04:02:10 PM »
Hi NP
Hope you dont mind me posting this here,but it is in regards to some flyback testing i have been doing on a coil for another project.

This coil differs from most,as it has a PM for the core,and is giving some very interesting results.

The measurements taken below do not include the power dissipated by the LED,but only the power flowing into C1 from the source,and then the power flowing out of C1 into the coil.

The calculated power from C1 is only calculating the power delivered by C1 to the coil when the transistor switches on-->duty cycle is 5%.
This is far greater than the power being delivered to C1 by the source.

So there is more power flowing through the coil,than there is being delivered by the source.
This means that the magnetic field being built by the coil is far greater than that that could be built by the supplied power from the source. And as i stated above,this is not including the power being dissipated by the LED.

I am not sure whether RMS or average values are used to calculate power in this case?.
Maybe void could shed some light on this.


Brad

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« Reply #137 on: January 07, 2019, 04:02:10 PM »
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« Reply #138 on: January 07, 2019, 04:54:05 PM »
Hi NP
Hope you dont mind me posting this here,but it is in regards to some flyback testing i have been doing on a coil for another project.

This coil differs from most,as it has a PM for the core,and is giving some very interesting results.

The measurements taken below do not include the power dissipated by the LED,but only the power flowing into C1 from the source,and then the power flowing out of C1 into the coil.

The calculated power from C1 is only calculating the power delivered by C1 to the coil when the transistor switches on-->duty cycle is 5%.
This is far greater than the power being delivered to C1 by the source.

So there is more power flowing through the coil,than there is being delivered by the source.
This means that the magnetic field being built by the coil is far greater than that that could be built by the supplied power from the source. And as i stated above,this is not including the power being dissipated by the LED.

I am not sure whether RMS or average values are used to calculate power in this case?.
Maybe void could shed some light on this.


Brad


mind you cr@pping all over my thread again?  no, of course i don't...

...as long as you don't mind me returning the favour on one of yours


If your results have any merit, then i recommend that you start your own thread about them - that way your friend Void can go there and comment about them all he likes...

...and he won't be getting a hard time again here


thanks for asking

np

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« Reply #139 on: January 08, 2019, 03:17:52 AM »

mind you cr@pping all over my thread again?  no, of course i don't...

...as long as you don't mind me returning the favour on one of yours


If your results have any merit, then i recommend that you start your own thread about them - that way your friend Void can go there and comment about them all he likes...

...and he won't be getting a hard time again here


thanks for asking

np

Enjoy

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« Reply #140 on: January 08, 2019, 07:24:52 AM »
TAKE NOTE
i'm happy to continue discussing other member's attempts ... to replicate the results i'm getting
...
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np


Hi NP
Hope you dont mind me posting this here,but it is in regards to some flyback testing i have been doing on a coil for another project.
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I am not sure whether RMS or average values are used to calculate power in this case?.
Maybe void could shed some light on this

Brad

i suggest you go and dump your testing results from "another" project onto a thread started by Void, where he's sharing with us all an OU-related project he's made...

there must be plenty of those, right?

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« Reply #141 on: January 08, 2019, 02:45:39 PM »

i suggest you go and dump your testing results from "another" project onto a thread started by Void, where he's sharing with us all an OU-related project he's made...

there must be plenty of those, right?

I know you dont like input from those that know,such as void,as it doesn't agree with your mistakes.

I just thought you might like something with substance on your thread,as you seem to be here all alone now  ;D .

But you enjoy your journey of solitude.


Brad

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« Reply #142 on: January 08, 2019, 08:11:41 PM »
Hi NP
Hope you dont mind me posting this here,but it is in regards to some flyback testing i have been doing on a coil for another project.

This coil differs from most,as it has a PM for the core,and is giving some very interesting results.

The measurements taken below do not include the power dissipated by the LED,but only the power flowing into C1 from the source,and then the power flowing out of C1 into the coil.

The calculated power from C1 is only calculating the power delivered by C1 to the coil when the transistor switches on-->duty cycle is 5%.
This is far greater than the power being delivered to C1 by the source.

So there is more power flowing through the coil,than there is being delivered by the source.
This means that the magnetic field being built by the coil is far greater than that that could be built by the supplied power from the source. And as i stated above,this is not including the power being dissipated by the LED.

I am not sure whether RMS or average values are used to calculate power in this case?.
Maybe void could shed some light on this.

Brad

Hi Brad. Average power is calculated using RMS values for the voltage and current,
however it is not that straightforward. Coils and capacitors produce reactive currents
which are out of phase with the voltage across them. This is sometimes referred to as
'reactive power' but it is not really power. When you are looking at efficiency of circuits
you are only concerned with real power, which is power consumption that depletes energy in
a power source, or power consumption in a load that consumes power, such as resistors
and bulbs. Power calculations for the purpose of determining circuit efficiency applies
to the input power from your power source and the output power for real power consuming loads.
Looking at current flowing in coils and capacitors does not tell you about the efficiency of
the circuit. That is an interesting setup with the coil around a magnet core however.
All the best...

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« Reply #143 on: January 08, 2019, 08:21:03 PM »
I know you dont like input from those that know,such as void,as it doesn't agree with your mistakes.

I just thought you might like something with substance on your thread,as you seem to be here all alone now  ;D .

But you enjoy your journey of solitude.


Brad


awwww, that's so SWEEEEEET, it's almost like you really cared about me being lonely!

how could i possibly be lonely when i have you here, Big Boy?!?

i don't care what the others say about you, you'll always have a special place in this thread now


...let's close the door quietly  now and give these two lovers some privacy  ;)

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« Reply #144 on: January 11, 2019, 10:09:39 AM »


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« Reply #145 on: January 12, 2019, 08:05:21 PM »


Dragone and Zaev.
A few contributors have offered theories about the magnet core coil gain; mentioning field compression etc. These guys are reinventing the wheel.

Tinman and Itzu need to take caliometric readings of the coil's core magnet. They will find their magnets are cooling.

The PM field is not compressed it is annihilated by a dealignment of polarized electrons caused by the electrical pulse.

The Neo-magnet material has to work on the quantum plane to reorganize its alignment and consumes heat in the process. Electricity is generated by the work. 

These are the theories of Dr. Leon Dragone and Nicoli Zaev.


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« Reply #146 on: January 12, 2019, 09:45:23 PM »

When the current is interrupted, the magnetic field is removed from the Neo magnet, an (MCE) material. This causes the electron spins to become random and the material cools.

"All magnetic materials exhibit MCE, although the intensity of this effect depends on the properties of each material. Generally, for a simple ferromagnetic material near its Curie temperature, when a magnetic field is applied, the spins tend to align parallel to the magnetic field, which lowers the magnetic entropy. To compensate for the loss in the magnetic entropy in an adiabatic (isentropic) process, the temperature of the material increases. When the magnetic field is removed, the spins tend to become random which increases the magnetic entropy and the material cools".


That's all they tell us in refrigeration science. The problem for them is that when the magnetic caloric material begins to work to re-polarize it's domains, it generates electrical power. This is an unwanted byproduct they simply run into an Earth ground. Tinman is running a D.C. motor with MCE waste current.

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« Reply #147 on: January 12, 2019, 10:20:42 PM »

Dragone and Zaev.


would have loved to see the expressions on Leon's staff-colleagues' faces when he handed them his lovingly hand-typed theory paper for discussion

only saw Zaev's 'h' type current waveform once, in one of my pulsed motor experiments - real - but elusive!

ciao

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« Reply #148 on: January 14, 2019, 02:37:46 PM »
Tinman or Itzu need to measure the temperature of their Neo magnet core to see if it's dropping while under operation. This will prove wether we're witnessing an (MCE) or not.

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« Reply #149 on: January 16, 2019, 02:53:08 PM »
2SGen Episode 6: The 2SGen principle: The energy from the core magnetization/demagnetization process
In the scope pictures below:

the yellow curve is the pulse sent by the controller to build up the magnetic field of the core (magnetization phase),
the blue curve is the pulse measured across the output coil connected to a lamp as a load.

                               (http://jlnlabs.online.fr/2SGen/images/2sg1b.jpg)


Look at the blue curve, the first part (negative curve) is the magnetization phase of the core (building up of the magnetic energy), you may notice some Barkhausen effect bumps.
The second part (positive curve) is the demagnetization phase of the core. The excess free energy is tapped during the demagnetization process and not during the magnetization process due to the blocking diode connected at the output coil. To get more free energy from the 2SGen device, the clock pulse must be as short as possible (during the magnetization process).
The process of free energy generation from magnetization/demagnetization of a ferromagnetic core has been fully explained in the Nikolay E. Zaev paper "Ferrites and Ferromagnetics Free Energy Generation" published in New Energy Technologies Issue #5 Sept-Oct 2002.

 

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