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Offline FatBird

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Re: Keshe update
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2016, 07:13:49 PM »
It's so CLEAR & EASY to understand.  LOL
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Re: Keshe update
« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2016, 09:57:27 PM »
Keshe is underway to the white house. With a working free energy generator.
See it working here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6h1V6WPAHQ

The generator will arrive Sunday 14th Aug 2016.
Keshe said: do you want 'evolution' or 'revolution' to Obama.

This is the real break through we have all been waiting for!

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Offline John.K1

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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2016, 10:35:08 PM »
From the video above it looks like that guy was lucky enough to get his +/- 110V @ what frequency??   Let me guess :D   :D And did you see this video?? It is much easier to make it  :D  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skAePZGgpAA     :D  :D  :D  Also no extra wires  :D  :D  :D 

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Offline Qwert

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Re: Keshe update
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2016, 11:05:54 AM »
For this kind of event, I guess the white house (certainly not W.H.) resident certainly would sacrifice his vacation. But... wait a minute: why not kremlin resident? He is obviously closer to and more friendly to Iranians. ;)

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« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2016, 07:23:19 PM »
I do recall Mr. Keshe explicitly stating he knew Obama would not be there which was part of his strategy and why this weekend was picked to begin this tour across the country.

Later today or possibly tomorrow, we shall see how his strategy plays out.  I'll be very surprised if any of us see a full disclosure of how to build a Magrav unit ourselves.  We can hope I suppose.  I'll also be surprised if Douglas does not find himself incarcerated by the end of the day, depending upon how aggressively he approaches the Whitehouse.  I really can't say I agree with Mr. Keshe's plan.  Top down is simply not going to work.  If he truly wants to change the world, it will have to be bottom up.  He could easily document everything necessary to build a functioning Magrav and release it as a torrent file that would spread across the Internet in just a few hours.  There would be almost no stopping that short of a complete Internet blackout.

It's Mr. Keshe's backwards thinking that really makes me doubt what he says he has.

Anyway, here's the live stream if someone wants to follow their progress and report on any major events:
https://www.youtube.com/c/KeshefoundationOrg/live

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Re: Keshe update
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2016, 10:10:26 AM »
Schematic and a demo of a working off grid unit.

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« Reply #24 on: August 18, 2016, 03:06:50 PM »
Hmmmmmm.

@all

Well from my last post on this thread, I might windup eating that Quiche myself. A very good local friend that is in a small group working on the Magrav for several months now called me yesterday to say it is now producing a good 3000 watts of juiceroni. I asked if I can go and inspect the device in operation with proper measurements, scope, etc. He said the group s a little leery of having outsiders at this stage. I will push it with him to see if this is legit or not.

Spin Conveyance (SC) and the Magrav.

If the Magrav is indeed really producing electricity as shown in some new videos on the net, the cause which is now explained as a "plasma" event is most likely not the case. But SC could in very simple terms.

I have been discussing on and off about why our copper wire is the cause of our limitations to produce OU devices. Much of this is discussed at etherimpress.com under SC.

The main point is electricity is not a field and electron based phenomena. It is a physical copper nucleic phenomena where the physical spin or sway of copper nuclei is conveyed from one atom to the next without any "traveling" or "flow" of electrons. The magnet or energized coil is not an outgoing impress of a field but an inward impress of gravity. Copper nuclei respond to this gravity presence as a physical movement of spin or sway that gets conveyed down the wire as electricity. This simple construct of SC explains all our effects, including the infernal resistance in our wires which could be explained in detail on another thread.

The point is I have been poking at copper wire quality for a long while now. Mostly saying that if copper wire could be produced by extrusion in a flat form (not round) and when exiting in a molten form passes by a strong magnetic polarity on one of its sides before it cools off, those aligned copper atoms would produce OU devices. This because cancellation in a wire is based on the random orientation of the nuclei in our copper atoms.

It seems that the Keshe system of conditioning the copper coils after they are wound by simultaneously heating the non-insulated inner and outer coils red hot produce both an outer carbon coating that acts as an insulator between both inner and outer coils and between coil turns, plus, the great adder is the actual copper atoms being heating re-aligned their nuclei where a higher percentage of the nuclei are now aligned a more specific vector. This creates what? The same thing that energizing transforms a dead freshly made neomagnet mass to become a supper magnet. The neo magnet did not receive "electrons" or a "field". The only thing that can happen is a realignment of atomic nuclei because the exterior coating of atoms cannot be affected otherwise the mass will change in its physical form which it does not.   

As the neo mass becomes a magnet where atomic nuclei are positioned in a naturally balanced vectorial mutual confinement, the nuclei can now make other nuclei spin or sway against EACH OTHER. It is this movement that creates the magnetic influence which is an increase in the internal gravity of the magnet. The magnet is not heavier, it just becomes a higher gravity force or presence. That is what copper nuclei respond to.
 
So if Keche is in fact real, then the only explanation is the mutual inner and outer coil atomic nuclei now act just like the interior of a magnet where the spin or sway can happen and is exchanged by mutual cause and effect just like a magnet. The only difference is the copper atoms are arranged in a linear conveyance where each end of the coils produce their final output conveyance we see as potential difference. The magnet is a closed topology where such conveyance cannot be imparted to the outside world save with action at a distance. The magnet passes the wire and the wire converts the physical passage into an internal spin conveyance of potential.

So under SC, the Keshe device as it is produced today is at such a fledgling stage that once we learn of the real atomic prowess of copper atom nuclei and once we learn how to make copper wire that is really physically oriented, like if you could actually use a 3D printer to make your copper coil atom by atom, the real power of the atom will be available in a ten cent device that will run a home.

So, again if Keshe is real, Spin Conveyance would have no problem explaining the process since I see Mr. Keshe is on a very right path of the device working but his "plasma" talk and attracting the "ether" energy is again stone age talk. SC explains it to a tee and this introduction of the Magrav falls just at the right time for SC to be better explained.

I have said it so many times, our copper wire is the same damn copper random crap we have been making for the last 100 years. While tech has advanced, we are still on step number one when it comes to atomic/nucleic/conductive atoms. The change is happening slowly as good things that last usually do.

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« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2016, 04:11:58 PM »
   That sounds a bit like how the idea of the Colman type devices are supposed to operate. By polarizing the powdered materials, by using a strong RF signal.  However, we tried to do that with the "crystal cells" but for some reason it didn't really do much.
   
   It sounds like you are thinking that gravitational waves or fields are the same thing as magnetic waves.
Although they both come from and are made by the same source, dark energy, Aether, call it what you will, in conjunction with a vortex, they are not the same thing.
   In any case,  I believe that the cause of both types of waves is a result of the "field" that they are under. No field, no waves. Any radioactive materials are only giving off what they are continually obtaining from the "Source".
   
   Tesla was no fool. Nor was it stone age thinking, to produce the results that he was able to produce.
   
   The process of "polarization" of the materials involved leads to the the ability to produce the wanted results, OU.

   Same thing with what we call Sunlight, which does not come from the Sun, at all, as we are still being taught to this day.
   There is a reason for the stone age misconceptions. And it's not what we are being told.
   As Sun light is not coming from the Sun,  and is produced here on Earth on the side facing a light source, our Sun.
There is no traveling of the light to get here from the Sun. Light does not travel, it polarizes, instead. Nothing is traveling, at the speed of light. No electrons, no photons nothing is traveling. Light speed and the manufacture of light is a result of polarization of the photons, instead, without any "traveling" involved.
   My two cents...

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« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2016, 05:18:11 PM »
Hi wattsup,

Your analysis has certainly thrown a different light on this subject.  I had written Keshe off as another wacko that didn't have a clue what he was doing.  After reading your thoughts I guess I need to consider the possibility there may be more to this than first appears.  Thanks for sharing you thoughts.  I am certainly not convinced yet there is something to this but I will try to be more open minded about the possibility of there being something to it.

Thanks,
Carroll

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« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2016, 05:24:51 PM »
Nickz,

Do you have a thread or website somewhere that explains your theory that light doesn't travel?  I don't want to clutter up this thread with a discussion about your idea but I think I see some serious flaws in that theory.  But I am willing to hear what you have to say about it if you have some place to do that.  If you don't already have a thread then maybe you should start one.

Respectfully,
Carroll

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« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2016, 04:16:09 AM »
  Perhaps I should start a new thread.
  I only mentioned what I did, to spark the interest of those that already may know about this.
Not to contradict or confuse others, with what I can't prove, as yet.
  I have also heard the theory of what light is and how it travels, from point A to point B. But, they never explain what it is that's "traveling", nor can they prove that idea. Nor can they prove the Big Bang Theory, as well. Because, something just can't come from nothing, in one big bang. But, they expect you to believe that, also, and base their science on it.
Or, How when there is no light and no heat in space (toward our Sun), how that can light and heat this planet. It can't and it doesn't. Dust has nothing to do with it, either.
  NASA has been lying to us forever. Ever wonder why? Our teachers and texts books also repeat their false theories and made up stories, as fact. Which our school kids are brainwashed into believing, and most of the rest of us, as well.
 
   Any ways, I won't take up any more space on this thread. Just thought that it relates to Wattsup's idea of polarization. As it's the process of polarization that creates light out of darkness. When the photons aline to a light source, this alinement of the photonic needles create light. Light and darkness are going on at all times. The alinement of the photonic needles to a light source is what creates light, and when they are at random and not alined there is no light.
   That's it in a nutshell.  I know that most won't or don't believe.  But, I do. And I may not be the only one that does.

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« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2016, 03:18:14 PM »
   That sounds a bit like how the idea of the Colman type devices are supposed to operate. By polarizing the powdered materials, by using a strong RF signal.  However, we tried to do that with the "crystal cells" but for some reason it didn't really do much.

Are the crystal cells conductive? Which atoms are involved. There is your answer.

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   It sounds like you are thinking that gravitational waves or fields are the same thing as magnetic waves. Although they both come from and are made by the same source, dark energy, Aether, call it what you will, in conjunction with a vortex, they are not the same thing.

Ha,ha,ha. I know it's hard to fathom. I had sleepless nights for a good year. No there is no such a thing as a field. No magnetic, no prophetic either. Magnets do not exude a field. They are an inward localized gravity source. Like a little planet. Each magnet is its own planet without the need of a plasma core. All fields you have ever measured used copper or conductive material in one form or another. Copper atoms sensing gravity presence without any field.

It's like walking into a room with 100 people and all of a sudden you see this totally knock-out babe on the other side of the room. You did not need a field to tap you on the shoulder and say "Hey look at her". You see her because she is there. You see the sun because it is there. You do not see the sun light as arriving to your eyes, you see the sun from where it actually is.

The field is a stone age construct by people who could not fathom that an atom had enough talent to render it conductive on its own.

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   In any case,  I believe that the cause of both types of waves is a result of the "field" that they are under. No field, no waves. Any radioactive materials are only giving off what they are continually obtaining from the "Source".

Yes, tell that to the shark that just sensed a drop of blood a mile away. Ask  him if he sensed the blood field or just sensed the blood for being blood. This is where we will need to advance away from the field construct and back into true physical atomic cause and effect with the reactive nucleic mechanisms already built into each atom. That' what the scientific cabal has been hiding from all for so long.

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   Tesla was no fool. Nor was it stone age thinking, to produce the results that he was able to produce.

Never said Tesla was a fool. But he was still stuck in the times and in those days where everything was being thrown around, he himself did not agree with their present stance of science and the direction it was taking.

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   The process of "polarization" of the materials involved leads to the the ability to produce the wanted results, OU.

You can call it polarization but in EE this means nothing but a fly by night construct laced with field talk. The actual process should be simply known as Nucleic Alignment because that is the only part of the atom that can "shift" its latent orientation to a new vector.

Its very simple. Let's say you are an Army Commander and you have 1000 soldiers in front of you. They all know that when you raise your hand, they all must raise their hands and when you lower your hand, they all must lower theirs as well. The problem is they are all looking in different directions so not all of them can see you and while some try to raise their heads a little higher so they can see you, they wind up blocking the view of others behind them. So when the Commander raises his hand, only a small percentage of the soldiers raise theirs but its always enough to create the action/reaction. Now let's say all soldiers are ordered to look in a forward direction and stand one behind the other. The Commander raises his hand. The first soldier sees the commander and raises his hand. The second soldier sees the first soldier raising his hand and does the same and this goes on down the line. So the hand raising is conveyed from one to the next until all hands are up. There was no megaphone (field) required to tell the soldiers when to raise their hands. The same goes for electricity. It is conveyed, not traveled. When you connect a power source, you connect it the the ends of a coil. When a magnet passes a coil, only the closest parts of the coil see the magnet and convey that approach to the rest of the coil.

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   Same thing with what we call Sunlight, which does not come from the Sun, at all, as we are still being taught to this day.
   There is a reason for the stone age misconceptions. And it's not what we are being told.
   As Sun light is not coming from the Sun,  and is produced here on Earth on the side facing a light source, our Sun.
There is no traveling of the light to get here from the Sun. Light does not travel, it polarizes, instead. Nothing is traveling, at the speed of light. No electrons, no photons nothing is traveling. Light speed and the manufacture of light is a result of polarization of the photons, instead, without any "traveling" involved.

Light from the sun is a way deeper subject that I do not want to get into here.

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   My two cents...

Good two cents man. I'll take a dollars worth any day.

The basic idea is to say if the Keshe device is real, the actual cause and effect that they are purporting as plasma/ether effect is not real. I can accept the working part but not the reason for working part. I am sure Keshe, in a few years will come around to SC as the base of function which it is in all our electrical and chemical and physics effects. We cause a pulse, we measure a response three feet away. We think a field caused the pickup to respond but the pickup responded on its own because those atoms have the response attribute built into them from the start. If you look at the Periodical Table of Elements (PTE) and take some time to understand my Part 1 and 2 on Spin Conveyance, you will never look at the PTE in the same light anymore. You will understand that the atomic attributes include all the abilities to produce action at a distance without stories of fancy and mystical fields. I know, what I am trying to explain to you guys is like asking sharks to stop eating meat, it will not be easy.

Just know that when someone says "I measured the field" know that there will always be some type of conductive atoms involved that are simply responding to the presence of the source of the field and not the field itself which does not exist. It's only an illusion that has been ingrained in our normal acceptance on how things happen and it is not an easy thing to work against or see through the illusion to the actual cause and effect.

All Keshe has is a plasma/ether story to accompany his device because he is basing his own observations on something he truly does not understand but regardless, if it works, it works. This, no one could deny once it is proven for absolute fact which I would welcome with open arms. The idea of making a copper coil act like a magnet with the added bonus that the copper can produce an output would be a great advance indeed. The method of conditioning, the black soot created provides isolation between inner and outer coils making their tightly wound individual layers isolated and conductive and when heated the copper atoms are now helped to produce Nucleic Alignment, all of these are logical to his process but the base idea Plasma/Ether is a freebie that technology does not need to hide behind for 100 more years. If Keshe is real, it will help support Spin Conveyance Theory because the Standard Model cannot explain it with fields and electrons.

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