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picowatt

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Re: Moon Walkers.
« Reply #105 on: January 26, 2016, 09:03:50 AM »
Tinman,

Very cool photos!

Thanks...

PW

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Re: Moon Walkers.
« Reply #106 on: January 26, 2016, 09:09:49 AM »
Now I got it, finally I am convinced. They have done it, the clever ones who look through the moon hoax, the even more clever ones, who know that free energy exists but is forbidden by the bad ones. They have provided so many clever arguments that I have to run over to their side of reality.

And now that I am saved from the evil of the world, the good things will start. The clever ones will teach me the real science, they will give me free energy, the aliens and knowledge beyond my wildest dreams.

The clever ones, who look through all hoaxes and bad things the government or the illuminate do, will set me free in a new world, where the truth will prevail, where the good knowledge will feed me and warm me in the winter.

With the so far suppressed knowledge of the clever ones we will travel to the stars and solve the problems on earth which are of course caused by the ones who do not believe in the clever ones.

The clever ones do not study science, they see the truth of the universe just by sucking their fingers and toes, it comes to them easily. Only dumb ones have to work hard to understand nature.

Wow, I have missed the good life which will now begin. Thank you clever ones for enlightening me.

In awe, Conrad


Like the one papers on the Balcony, Thunderbirds are also true, because on TV?


tinman

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« Reply #107 on: January 26, 2016, 09:15:06 AM »
Looking at another close up of the service module in lunar orbit,we can see blistering of paint arount
the circled areas. This would mean some vary warm temperatures some where along the journey to the moon.

Johan_1955

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Re: Moon Walkers.
« Reply #108 on: January 26, 2016, 09:18:03 AM »
What exactly did Mars have to do with this thread?

Indeed....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCf23ZTFaDM


Much better song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMkyhTBPz7Q


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picowatt

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Re: Moon Walkers.
« Reply #109 on: January 26, 2016, 09:38:40 AM »
Looking at another close up of the service module in lunar orbit,we can see blistering of paint arount
the circled areas. This would mean some vary warm temperatures some where along the journey to the moon.

Tinman,

You may be right about that being thermal blistering.  Although I don't have time to look into it right now, I wonder if that might be ice.  I'll try to find out what that panel is or what's behind it.  It does indeed look more like puckered paint though. 

Note that the only shiny looking well assembled piece from an aesthetic point of view (that would meet your approval) is the nice and shiny command module.  It is the only part of the system that needs to be built tough on the outside for re-entry into the atmosphere.  No other components (service module or LM) had to deal with aerodynamic forces (and survive anyway).

PW

tinman

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Re: Moon Walkers.
« Reply #110 on: January 26, 2016, 10:20:30 AM »
Tinman,

You may be right about that being thermal blistering.  However, although I don't have time to look into it right now, I wonder if that might be ice.  I'll try to find out what that panel is or what's behind it.  However, it does indeed look like puckered paint.

Note that the only shiny looking well assembled piece from an aesthetic point of view (that would meet your approval) is the nice and shiny command module.  It is the only part of the system that needs to be built tough on the outside for re-entry into the atmosphere.  No other components (service module or LM) had to deal with aerodynamic forces (and survive anyway).

PW

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You do realize that the image i posted(see below) is of the command module that has to carry the astronauts through re entry back to earth ?.

picowatt

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Re: Moon Walkers.
« Reply #111 on: January 26, 2016, 10:26:28 AM »
PW
You do realize that the image i posted(see below) is of the command module that has to carry the astronauts through re entry back to earth ?.

That is the service module you are looking at.  Apollo was three separate pieces.  The service module, the command module, and the lunar excursion module.

The only thing that came back to Earth intact was the shiny command module at the front of the service module.  The service module detached prior to reentry and burnt up in the atmosphere when it re-entered.  The SM had the rocket motor, life support, electrical fuel cells, water, etc, and it was all just thrown away. 'Tis a pity.

Perhaps Elon Musk will get us away from disposable rockets.

EDIT:  SORRY, I was referring to a previous photo you posted.  I guess we are not talking about the same thing. 

The image you just posted with "rescue" on it would not be the service module.

ADDED:  The "shiny" part I was referring to is the command module as seen in the third image of your reply 103

PW


picowatt

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« Reply #112 on: January 26, 2016, 10:50:10 AM »
I have really enjoyed going through the high res pictures of the Apollo mission from this site--real or not,the pictures really make you want to believe that man did make this fantastic journey.
But i will not let !what may be! a wonderful fantasy get in the way of scientific proof-either way.
 So for all-enjoy the high res pictures of all missions.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums/with/72157658976934006

There was a few !!odd!! pictures i found with the Apollo 17 CSM.
The first is a picture taken from the lunar lander of the CSM. The part you see is the command module.
Now just to keep MH happy,i will not comment on what i see that is covering the command module.
The second picture is a close up of part of the first picture from the link i provided above. You can also see the photo reference number in the first picture,so as you can have a look your self at the exploded view of the picture. When you have found the picture in the gallery from the link i provided above,you simply click on that picture. When you do this,a smaller picture will be displayed. Click again on that smaller picture,and you whole screen will be filled with a HD picture--can take a few seconds before the picture becomes clean--depends on your PCU speed,and internet connection speed. Once you have the exploded view,you simply move your mouse over the picture to view different parts of the picture.

The third picture below is of the CSM in moon orbit. Now we see the CSM skin has a highly reflective surface. Remember-the first picture shows the CSM leaving earth heading for the moon,and the third show's it in orbit around the moon.
I will leave others to determine what they are looking at in the first picture.

Brad


When you post images, would you please provide image numbers?  It just takes way too long trying to track down image info without them.

Thanks...

PW

Nink

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Re: Moon Walkers.
« Reply #113 on: January 26, 2016, 02:50:03 PM »
That is the service module you are looking at.  Apollo was three separate pieces.  The service module, the command module, and the lunar excursion module.

The only thing that came back to Earth intact was the shiny command module at the front of the service module.  The service module detached prior to reentry and burnt up in the atmosphere when it re-entered.  The SM had the rocket motor, life support, electrical fuel cells, water, etc, and it was all just thrown away. 'Tis a pity.

Perhaps Elon Musk will get us away from disposable rockets.

EDIT:  SORRY, I was referring to a previous photo you posted.  I guess we are not talking about the same thing. 

The image you just posted with "rescue" on it would not be the service module.

ADDED:  The "shiny" part I was referring to is the command module as seen in the third image of your reply 103

PW

Seriously though does that look like something built with a multibillion dollar budget or something thrown together by a group of people for a studio production.

On take off the rocket was pulling between 3 to 4 g's  under that much force, the rocket undergoes a tremendous amount of vibration. Anything not perfectly aerodynamic will simply strip off due to wind resistance. Do you honestly believe that service module wouldn't have simply fallen apart on take off?

Those sheets of metal would peel away in the first 3 seconds. They are obviously not really part of any rocket that launched from earth and nothing more than a studio prop. So why did they use them in the photo's  ? 

 Manufacturing and engineering was far more advanced than that studio prop in 1969.  Example  Look at how cars were built in 1969, this was the era of the supercars with Ferrari Dino and Lamborghini Miura.  You could say but yes this was a "one off" not a production line so here is the 1969 Australian Holden Hurricane concept car only one ever built and it only needed to make it to the local car show and not the moon.


tinman

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Re: Moon Walkers.
« Reply #114 on: January 26, 2016, 03:15:17 PM »
That is the service module you are looking at.  Apollo was three separate pieces.  The service module, the command module, and the lunar excursion module.

The only thing that came back to Earth intact was the shiny command module at the front of the service module.  The service module detached prior to reentry and burnt up in the atmosphere when it re-entered.  The SM had the rocket motor, life support, electrical fuel cells, water, etc, and it was all just thrown away. 'Tis a pity.

Perhaps Elon Musk will get us away from disposable rockets.



PW

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EDIT:  SORRY, I was referring to a previous photo you posted.  I guess we are not talking about the same thing. 

The image you just posted with "rescue" on it would not be the service module.

ADDED:  The "shiny" part I was referring to is the command module as seen in the third image of your reply 103

That is correct PW,and the reason for my question. All three pictures i posted are of the command module,so i am just asking as to how that can be,as the ones that look like the command module is covered in duct tape,is as they were leaving earth on the way to the moon. The last picture is taken when they arrive at the moon,and are now in lunar orbit. The other pictures in the earth orbit section,also show big chunk's broken off around the window frame's,but when they get to the moon,we see a nice shinny,well built command module with no broken window frame's. How can this be?.

Brad

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Re: Moon Walkers.
« Reply #115 on: January 26, 2016, 03:18:26 PM »

When you post images, would you please provide image numbers?  It just takes way too long trying to track down image info without them.

Thanks...

PW

PW
All most all the images i post have the image number in the lower left corner. There have been only a couple that i have missed,and that is also some times due to it being an expanded view of the image that accompanies it that has the image number attached. only the flag images are the ones that have no number that i can see from a quick look,

Also,what did you make out from the video you asked me to repost about the flag wavering as the astronaut bounced on by.?.

tinman

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Re: Moon Walkers.
« Reply #116 on: January 26, 2016, 03:25:07 PM »
Seriously though does that look like something built with a multibillion dollar budget or something thrown together by a group of people for a studio production.

On take off the rocket was pulling between 3 to 4 g's  under that much force, the rocket undergoes a tremendous amount of vibration. Anything not perfectly aerodynamic will simply strip off due to wind resistance. Do you honestly believe that service module wouldn't have simply fallen apart on take off?

Those sheets of metal would peel away in the first 3 seconds. They are obviously not really part of any rocket that launched from earth and nothing more than a studio prop. So why did they use them in the photo's  ? 

 Manufacturing and engineering was far more advanced than that studio prop in 1969.  Example  Look at how cars were built in 1969, this was the era of the supercars with Ferrari Dino and Lamborghini Miura.  You could say but yes this was a "one off" not a production line so here is the 1969 Australian Holden Hurricane concept car only one ever built and it only needed to make it to the local car show and not the moon.

Nice car ;)

The pictures of the part of the CSM that looks like it is covered in duct tap, is of the command module-not the service module part of the CSM. The command module is the part that has to survive re/entry,and keep the astronauts safe. If that tape can withstand re/entry-then i want a dozen rolls of it.

Brad

picowatt

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« Reply #117 on: January 26, 2016, 05:10:48 PM »
PW
All most all the images i post have the image number in the lower left corner. There have been only a couple that i have missed,and that is also some times due to it being an expanded view of the image that accompanies it that has the image number attached. only the flag images are the ones that have no number that i can see from a quick look,

Also,what did you make out from the video you asked me to repost about the flag wavering as the astronaut bounced on by.?.

Tinman,

I have already responded to the flag video.  Go back a page...

picowatt

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« Reply #118 on: January 26, 2016, 06:33:28 PM »
Now just to keep MH happy,i will not comment on what i see that is covering the command module.


Don't hold back now....   What do you see covering the CM?

PW

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« Reply #119 on: January 26, 2016, 07:22:30 PM »
A picture is worth a thousand words, ----- even if none of then are right!

It appears to be increasingly important to prove the moon landings were fake.
What is there to be gained?

Blistered paint from heat! Why only some spots?
More likely a retouched area that blistered form outgassing in the vacuum.

It appears that some are trying to outsmart a group of rocket scientists that put more total hours into a project than a single person could over their lifespan.
If you dedicated your life to first studying all the aspects of these space missions and all the issues of space flight, then you would likely understand the pictures much better.
Missing moon rocks? In fact many of the real moon rocks were destroyed in test, ended up in a personal collection, not displayed as the real rock was stolen or feared might be and many other happenings.

So how does this story end when for every proof of fakery there are several additional proofs it was in fact real.
You really think that only the US was able to monitor the mission and no other country intercepted the video directly from its source as real time proof.

If you do then you probably were not old enough to understand the state of the world at that time or simply played to many video games and cannot distinguish reality.