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Author Topic: Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT! New Video!  (Read 51461 times)

Just..Sayin..

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Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT! New Video!
« on: January 16, 2016, 07:09:01 PM »
You have to see this thread, it looks like Avalon has done it! He demonstrates a Lenz-less transformer at 60 HZ that is clearly an OU device of the highest order! His demonstration is impressive and you can tell in the video that he is very excited while performing the demo. He also has a lot of experience with this field of research which is why he was able to put it together so quickly!

http://overunity.com/16340/the-secret-to-the-self-oscillating-transformer/msg471078/#msg471078

Here is his new video with a new watt meter demonstration. We can hear the capacitor assisted transformer working quite nicely in this one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVmhahIg_4E
« Last Edit: January 17, 2016, 03:43:27 AM by Just..Sayin.. »
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picowatt

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Re: Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT!
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2016, 08:26:51 PM »
Quote from: Just..Sayin.. on January 16, 2016, 07:09:01 PM
You have to see this thread, it looks like Avalon has done it! He demonstrates a Lenz-less transformer at 60 HZ that is clearly an OU device of the highest order! His demonstration is impressive and you can tell in the video that he is very excited while performing the demo. He also has a lot of experience with this field of research which is why he was able to put it together so quickly!

http://overunity.com/16340/the-secret-to-the-self-oscillating-transformer/msg471078/#msg471078


Funny thing about those "Kill-A-Watt" type meters, returning the load thru the third prong ground will cause it to register zero watts.

Snip the extension cord inside the tub, connect the neutral from the load to the green wire/third prong ground and voila, it (only) looks like OU.

Just sayin'...

PW
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Just..Sayin..

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Re: Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT!
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2016, 08:37:13 PM »
Quote from: picowatt on January 16, 2016, 08:26:51 PM

Funny thing about those "Kill-A-Watt" type meters, returning the load thru the third prong ground will cause it to register zero watts.

Snip the extension cord inside the tub, connect the neutral from the load to the green wire/third prong ground and voila, instant OU.

Just sayin'...

PW

I think Avalon's next move... he has one planned as he titled the video part 1...  is to eliminate the extension cord by building a 60 cycle oscillator to excite the transformer and get it going. Does not make any sense that Avalon, being a senior OU member, with a demonstrated background in ferro resonance, would perpetuate a hoax. That type of scenario does not add up.
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picowatt

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Re: Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT!
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2016, 10:29:10 PM »
Quote from: Just..Sayin.. on January 16, 2016, 08:37:13 PM
I think Avalon's next move... he has one planned as he titled the video part 1...  is to eliminate the extension cord by building a 60 cycle oscillator to excite the transformer and get it going. Does not make any sense that Avalon, being a senior OU member, with a demonstrated background in ferro resonance, would perpetuate a hoax. That type of scenario does not add up.

So, considering how easily the tub is lifted with one hand from the top edge indicating there is little weight inside, and the fact that the watt meter reads exactly zero watts, not a few watts, but exactly zero, it is easier for you to believe that there is a magic transformer inside and not the use of the very simple method I described, which will produce identical results?

Oh well...

PW



 
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Just..Sayin..

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Re: Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT!
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2016, 10:36:38 PM »
Quote from: picowatt on January 16, 2016, 10:29:10 PM
So, considering how easily the tub is lifted with one hand from the top edge indicating there is little weight inside, and the fact that the watt meter reads exactly zero watts, not a few watts, but exactly zero, it is easier for you to believe that there is a magic transformer inside and not the use of the very simple method I described, which will produce identical results?

Oh well...

PW

It looked like there was weight in the container... I also noticed he seemed to be in a state of excitement as he was performing the demo. I know there is a lot of fakery going on out there.... but I do not believe this to be the case here Pico... and as he does not plan on opening the box or revealing any more about the device, we will not know any time soon.
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avalon

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Re: Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT!
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2016, 10:56:03 PM »
Quote from: picowatt on January 16, 2016, 10:29:10 PM
So, considering how easily the tub is lifted with one hand from the top edge indicating there is little weight inside, and the fact that the watt meter reads exactly zero watts, not a few watts, but exactly zero, it is easier for you to believe that there is a magic transformer inside and not the use of the very simple method I described, which will produce identical results?

Oh well...

PW

Good thinking. I haven't thought of that when making the first video.

It could be a viable scenario except that the device drops the voltage when overloaded. So, if there is a simple bypass inside than the input voltage will simply be equal to the output voltage (minus some negligible losses for additional wiring). Instead, the output voltage drops when the device is overloaded.

I'll quickly make another video later on today showing the input and output voltages.

~A
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Just..Sayin..

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Re: Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT!
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2016, 11:50:34 PM »
Quote from: avalon on January 16, 2016, 10:56:03 PM
Good thinking. I haven't thought of that when making the first video.

It could be a viable scenario except that the device (TRANSFORMER) drops the voltage when overloaded. So, if there is a simple bypass inside than the input voltage will simply be equal to the output voltage (minus some negligible losses for additional wiring). Instead, the output voltage drops when the device (TRANSFORMER) is overloaded.

I'll quickly make another video later on today showing the input and output voltages.

~A

Right Avalon?
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pomodoro

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Re: Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT!
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2016, 01:21:57 AM »
Without oscilloscope traces of simultaneous voltage and current  (V across a small value  resistor) going into the device all we can deduce is that the device defeats the simple kw meter. A handy device none the less if it works on the house meter, which it most likely will not.
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MileHigh

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Re: Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT!
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2016, 01:39:01 AM »
Quote from: picowatt on January 16, 2016, 10:29:10 PM
So, considering how easily the tub is lifted with one hand from the top edge indicating there is little weight inside, and the fact that the watt meter reads exactly zero watts, not a few watts, but exactly zero, it is easier for you to believe that there is a magic transformer inside and not the use of the very simple method I described, which will produce identical results?

Oh well...

PW

I wasn't aware of that little trick.  Sounds like a clamp-on ammeter would come in handy.

We have been here before and I am not feeling it at all.
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picowatt

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Re: Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT!
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2016, 01:54:08 AM »
Quote from: MileHigh on January 17, 2016, 01:39:01 AM
I wasn't aware of that little trick.  Sounds like a clamp-on ammeter would come in handy.

We have been here before and I am not feeling it at all.

MH,

I confirmed what I originally posted using a P4400 Kill-A-Watt meter.

If the neutral side of the load is returned thru the third prong ground, my meter reads zero watts.

Perhaps a neutral to ground connection within the tub was unintentional or unnoticed, but doing as I posted does replicate what is seen in the video.

PW
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Just..Sayin..

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Re: Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT!
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2016, 03:37:09 AM »
Quote from: picowatt on January 17, 2016, 01:54:08 AM
MH,

I confirmed what I originally posted using a P4400 Kill-A-Watt meter.

If the neutral side of the load is returned thru the third prong ground, my meter reads zero watts.

Perhaps a neutral to ground connection within the tub was unintentional or unnoticed, but doing as I posted does replicate what is seen in the video.

PW

Avalon has the new video of his transformer up now Pico.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVmhahIg_4E
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Re: Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT!
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2016, 04:06:11 AM »
Quote from: Just..Sayin.. on January 17, 2016, 03:37:09 AM
Avalon has the new video of his transformer up now Pico.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVmhahIg_4E

Sorry, but I remain skeptical.  Notice how the voltage measured at the power strip drops similarly when loaded with or without the "tub" connected between the loads.  This is consistent with current being drawn from the hot side of the AC line in both instances, with the neutral current returned via the third prong ground when the tub is in circuit.  I do however see that the tub has been swapped out for something a bit different. 

Avalon, how about making a similar video using only a two conductor cord between the Kill-A-Watt and the tub?  Possibly consider using a three prong to two prong adapter plugged into the Kill-A-Watt.

PW
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MileHigh

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Re: Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT! New Video!
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2016, 04:38:46 AM »
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Notice how the voltage measured at the power strip drops similarly when loaded with or without the "tub" connected between the loads.

Exactly, our little Tupperware trickster has been busted and assuming that he was really trying, it turns out he is not as smart as he thought he was.

The magic resonance transformer will have to wait for another day.
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Re: Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT!
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2016, 04:58:39 AM »
Quote from: picowatt on January 17, 2016, 04:06:11 AM
Sorry, but I remain skeptical. 
PW

I remain skeptical too.  I have already mentioned that I would not release anything until I am 100% sure of where the energy is coming from. So far, I cannot answer that question.
BTW, similar to my dumb Kill-A-Watt device, my smart PG&E house meter does not register anything either when I connect the load through the device.
Until I can answer the question above with a reasonable degree of certainty I will simply assume that I've created a cheating device. In that case no details will ever be released.

~A
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Magluvin

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Re: Looks Like OU Senior Member Avalon Has DONE IT! New Video!
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2016, 06:04:02 AM »
Put the multi meter in series in AC amp mode. If there are higher freq than just 60hz, the meter should still read as long as it is not real high freq, where the watt meter may be restricted at even a couple hundred hz. Dunno.

Mags
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