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Author Topic: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum  (Read 10256 times)

Offline citfta

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How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« on: December 31, 2015, 01:05:10 PM »
On probably any forum on the internet there are those that add absolutely nothing to the discussion.  It appears their only reason for posting is to disrupt a thread or try to get a reaction from those that are actually trying to have a discussion.   Then as most people will they get a reaction and respond and get more reaction until several pages of the thread have been wasted with nothing of value being added to the thread.  I am sure most of you have someone on this forum you would put into this category.

I read an interesting article last night that I think applies to this situation.  I have actually tried this idea before with pretty good results.  It seems there was a young man that lived in a neighborhood that had a vicious dog.  The dog was in a fenced yard but every time any of the the neighbors walked by the dog would run out barking and growling and scaring the children especially.  The children would run away and the adults would walk to the other side of the sidewalk and move a little quicker to get away from the barking dog.

This young man in the article decided to study about dogs.  He found out they respond according to how someone responds to them.  In other words their actions are based upon others reactions.  So the young man tried an experiment.  He forced himself to walk past the dog every day for a month and not react to the dog's barking.  At first the dog kept up his bad behavior.  But after a week or so he seemed to lose his enthusiasm for barking and growling.  By the end of the month the young man could walk by the dog and the dog just looked at him without even getting up from his resting spot.  You see it was no fun barking and growling if all that effort was just for nothing.

So my suggestion is when certain people post things that are only to incite trouble or discord just ignore them.  DO NOT respond.  If they get no reaction they will go somewhere else looking to start trouble.

Respectfully,
Carroll

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Offline poynt99

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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2015, 03:10:54 PM »
Two thumbs up!  ;)

Offline minnie

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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2015, 08:12:25 PM »



   About 90% of what's on here is rubbish, how can you disrupt drivel???
   Whatever anyone posts keeps a thread alive, people that leave complaining
   of disruption go "private". only to come crawling back when nobody is
   interested.
       I really enjoy the whole thing as my main interest is in what make the
   contributors "tick".
      I've started studying a bit of relativity and quantum as a result of TA's
   thread and am finding it not only interesting but somehow beautiful.
   After about 60 years of trying I can finally see the importance of the speed
   of light and there is a bit of logic to it.
       Message to everyone, please keep on posting and those who don't like
   what they see just turn on your auto censor device.
      Another thing, some amongst us don't seem to "like" the truth.
                  John.


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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2015, 08:12:25 PM »
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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2015, 09:54:54 PM »
Embrace them

my experience here, has led me to believe that even the most negative, disruptful, and belligerent of our members,
sometimes can have something important to add to a design or idea.
it appears easy for many of us to get caught up in the discussion and forget we are all on the same team.

these aren't just random crazy people that converged here to try to break the laws of physics....
these are 80,000 beautiful minds from around the world, collectively working together, sharing ideas...
helping each other to try and make the world a better place.
That's what makes this place so amazing, and how we are able to achieve things that have a real world impact for millions of people.
Things like the Joule Thief, and the Eric Jacqueman Story, that are still shaping the way the world lives.


each of us has our own reason for being here, theres no grand theory for why everyone chases after OU or "free energy".
"what makes each of us tick" is responsible for the diversity of perspectives, broad spectrum of fields of knowledge.
Each on our own quest, our own journey through life.



Offline EMJunkie

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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2015, 11:41:23 PM »
Hi Carroll

Hahaha - Yes!

Humans could be categorised in several groups. Very few are "Do'ers". Most are Complainers and Time Wasters. Some are like Pigs, happy to sit in squaller all day. Some are happy to make no advances! Some just like to Shoot Others down, no matter how much hard data they are presented.

But, do you know what, we are all each others Keeper, we are all brothers. It should be the case we all look after eacher and treat each other with respect. Poking ones Brothers Eyes out to help him See, just seems a little one sided to me!

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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2015, 11:41:23 PM »
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Offline citfta

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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2015, 11:57:16 PM »
Hi Chris,

I agree completely with all you posted.  The lack of respect on these forums is amazing.  I am sure most of the posters wouldn't dare to say face to face some of the things they post to one another.  My grandmother taught me years ago that we can disagree without being disagreeable.

And to clarify what appears to be some confusion about what I wrote I am not talking about others that disagree from a technical standpoint or any other standpoint if they just want to express an opinion.  I am talking about the posters that only post negative or inflammatory posts.  They never try to help or advise, they just spew hate and ire.  These are the ones we should ignore.  Maybe like the dog they can learn to change their ways.  And that would be better for them as well as everyone else.

Respectfully to all,
Carroll

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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2016, 12:11:49 AM »
Hi Chris,

I agree completely with all you posted.  The lack of respect on these forums is amazing.  I am sure most of the posters wouldn't dare to say face to face some of the things they post to one another.  My grandmother taught me years ago that we can disagree without being disagreeable.

And to clarify what appears to be some confusion about what I wrote I am not talking about others that disagree from a technical standpoint or any other standpoint if they just want to express an opinion.  I am talking about the posters that only post negative or inflammatory posts.  They never try to help or advise, they just spew hate and ire.  These are the ones we should ignore.  Maybe like the dog they can learn to change their ways.  And that would be better for them as well as everyone else.

Respectfully to all,
Carroll


Yes I agree, I am guilty of biting and getting offended to some of these negative or inflammatory posts, sometimes I ignore them, much of the time not.

Like a hungry Fish, staring at a big bit of Food, knowing there is a big Hook in there, why do we bite?

If i bite back, then I feel guilty and see a need to correct my behaviour. It seems these people do not! Showing no conscience for their actions.

You are right, best thing to do is to ignore them.

   Chris Sykes
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P.S: I have no problem with others who may disagree with me.

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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2016, 12:23:36 AM »
Hi Carroll,

The real sad thing is, like you pointed out, the overall technical use to those interested individuals trying to move ahead, of the information in each thread in most all forums, this forum especially, is very likely less than 10%

The rest of the thread is filled with useless drivel, time wasting drivel, complete rubbish!

Stefan needs to add a DriveloMeter, thumbs down for rubbish posts, gets to 10 and it is removed from the thread! Put into the DrivelOMeter Hall of Infamy for historical observations!

   Chris Sykes
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Offline minnie

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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2016, 12:54:21 AM »



   If you don't like-skip it.
   Censorship will kill the thing.
   Just take PES as an example.
         John.

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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2016, 12:54:21 AM »
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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2016, 02:00:44 AM »


   If you don't like-skip it.
   Censorship will kill the thing.
   Just take PES as an example.
         John.



John,

Censorship - Absolutely not what I meant!

I mean, posts that are "Of No Use", distractive, Drivel, Offensive, Destructive,

One example:

One or two exceptions, all the bullshit topic.
Use your head, man!
broken rekord...hmm
 :)
denies boosters? :)

Really, this post is of no use!!! It helps no one! Its an opinion! Shares no relivant information, is distractive, is destructive, is non-sense!!!

These sort of posts should be subject to community scrutiny. If enough think it is not worthy, move it to the Hall of Infamy!!!

Sorry Idegen but its true!

   Chris Sykes
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Offline MagnaProp

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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2016, 04:23:42 AM »
Young Jedi, resist responding to the dark side as set forth in the first post teachings we must.

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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2016, 09:20:51 AM »


Mag, my favorite Jedi!!!

Remember Yoda did give Darth Sidious a bit of a run for his money! Then after hanging up his Coat, he went into exile!

But yes I agree, Ignoring these posts is the best thing!

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Offline sm0ky2

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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #12 on: January 03, 2016, 04:44:30 PM »
we don't always see the bigger picture.
we may see someone explode and type things that are "useless" in the technical sense,
and perhaps socially inappropriate, if there is such a thing for a cyber-interface...

but what we DON'T see, is the prototypes and test equipment on their workbench,
or the private messages they send back and forth with other members,
and unless we dig around in their profile, we don't always see the other threads they may be involved in.

Each member is just as important as the next, and we shouldn't be so quick to judge someone simply because of what they may have typed in a thread we might be interested in.

We don't always know what that person is thinking, things like science, physics, and the nature of our reality can often be a personal issue for people. More times than not, an individuals perspective is engraved into them like a hardened religion.
It can be difficult to learn that everything you thought you knew was not exactly the way they taught you.

The other side could be that a particular person was just fed up with seeing the same stupid idea for the 139th time,
and a brand new handful of pleasurable young enthusiasts is chasing it down again.......
and he just lost it...... and said things that we not productive to the situation.

or maybe there was just a break-down in the communication process somewhere earlier in the thread.

whatever the case may be, theres not many people here that add "nothing" to the Forum.
so we shouldn't be so quick to dismiss them.

Offline citfta

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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #13 on: January 03, 2016, 06:16:53 PM »
Hi smOky2,

I agree with everything you have posted.  I especially agree with your assessment that there are very few on this forum that contribute nothing.  My comments are about those few.  And although some have suggested censoring them I have not suggested that nor do I agree with that.  My only suggestion was that we do not respond to those posts that are only made to disrupt or spew hate and ire.  By not responding we are not encouraging that kind of posting and hopefully after a while the poster will get tired of posting when the posts get no response.

I am NOT referring to posts that simply disagree with a technical issue or have a different viewpoint about something.  Expressing different ideas and thoughts is how we can all grow and learn.

Respectfully,
Carroll

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Re: How to deal with those that add nothing to the forum
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2016, 11:02:31 PM »

Hi Carroll, Sm0ky2,

Learning is a funny thing to study! I am doing some Machine Learning at the moment at University.

Human Learning is filled with all sorts of dynamics: Belief, Point's of View, Inferances, Misconceptions, Miss-Direction... and the list goes on.

Machine Learning is much more rigid: Logic and Reason within a strict set of guidelines.

Censorship is not the answer, I was merely suggesting a way to make Threads easier to follow for others interested in learning. It is a shame that all Threads will become so burried in mountains of other threads that sooner or later, they become merely Ones and Zero's sitting on a Hard Drive somewhere and no longer visited by biological Entitys anymore.

A good portion of the posts to many of the threads here on this forum are in no way Constructive or help in anyway to achieve any goals. There is no learning component to them!

The chance we let pass us by may be the last chance we are given.

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