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Author Topic: What do you think will happen if we found a source of free energy?  (Read 14841 times)

Offline conradelektro

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Re: What do you think will happen if we found a source of free energy?
« Reply #30 on: December 21, 2015, 11:40:52 PM »
Around year 2039 climate change will destroy current society .Floods , famine, wars, nuclear - total disaster.

Is there a difference (in principle) to my prediction? Of course, you can imagine a million details, if you like.

Future A: most of earth will be destroyed and humanity slips back into a stone age type existence where small bands of people (30 to 100 persons, like a tribe) roam the earth. The technological level will be like in the stone age (stone tools, may be cross bows, more likely the stone age spear thrower https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spear-thrower, hopefully there will be fire making skills). There will only be a few million people on earth who almost never meet.

Humanity can only survive if its social behaviour would change totally.

Will the social behaviour change after the total destruction? Of course not, the "normal behaviour" will again be very suitable for the new stone age. Our "normal social behaviour" is absolutely suitable for a life in small groups (you may call them tribes or bands). Only technology and a great number of people  make the lust for power and the lust for wealth too successful for our own good.

So, without ranting about details:

- There will be total destruction and a reduction of the global population to a few million. How this will happen is not important, thousands of possibilities, each one leads in the end to the same result in principle.

- Human nature (or social behaviour, or how we are) will not change, it is what makes us what we are. A changed humankind would not be humankind any more. It is possible that humans die out like many species before us. How a new ape species, if any evolves, would look like and how it would behave is beyond any speculation.

- Technology can not be a saviour, it amplifies problems. Technology speeds up the striving for power and wealth. Technology makes the bad intentions of people worse not better. A king with a sword can be beaten by a few people, a king with an atomic bomb and an army like the US-army is hard to stop.

Greetings, Conrad

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Offline marathonman

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Re: What do you think will happen if we found a source of free energy?
« Reply #31 on: December 22, 2015, 04:38:17 AM »
You seem to dislike Corporate America and you might be right that they're filthy rich but around the world, I don't see any other corporations giving back as the American corporation.  If you think there are, then it would be better to reference how those corporate countries are better than America's and perhaps then, will CA learn to be better.  Complaints alone won't make a great example, to make a change, take a lead.

Good god, that is some of the best advice i have ever heard. thank you

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: What do you think will happen if we found a source of free energy?
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2015, 08:35:53 PM »
@ Conrad

We can never change peoples hunger, nor greed. That's something only they can go through as individuals.
some realize it at an early age, and never go down that route. some spend a good portion of their lives chasing
material dreams, then have a "change of heart", while others live out their lives and die entirely consumed by their greed.

currently those in power strive to consume our excess income. squeezing us here or there, taking real world actions to
keep us under their thumbs. Approving a highway budget, but denying road subsidies to several major metropolitan cities and states. Why? because we spend 40 billion a year on tires..... They want to keep us trapped and stagnated in this game, month to month, year to year, paying our bills, going to work, slaves to the economic machine that keeps us distracted from our true human potential.
 
What freedom of energy and technology will do for us, is redistribute the wealth, and the power.
people, companies, groups, and other entities will be able to do things they currently cannot do.
When we are able to lower the cost of energy, materials, products, SO MUCH that everyone can afford the luxuries of life...  everyone will have more expendable income, which they will sink into other areas of the economy.
As prices continue to drop, and items become extremely low cost, or nearly free, the money will hold less "meaning" in our lives. It won't matter anymore... everyone will have so much money they don't know what to do with it.
And the rich and powerful elite will have their fortunes, that are then worthless or "worth less".....

Money is what drives the power, and the control. the more money we have, or the more valuable the money we have becomes, the more power and freedom we obtain as people.
We can buy the things we want or need, we can travel, our time becomes more readily available to us.

90% of the cost of EVERYTHING we buy, can be traced back to energy costs and energy-related taxation.
that means if we fix that problem, we can buy 10 things for our dollar.
That's not even including the further lowering of costs that will come from improving manufacturing techniques
as a result of the increase in available free energy.

people fear the loss of jobs that will incur, but as one industry collapses, a new one will take its place.
new fields of human endeavor will pop up and provide jobs for those that need or want to work.
work will also become more of an option for many of us. families able to survive with only one working member.
the rest of the family would have the free time to change the world in their own creative ways.

freeing of energy is much more than the surface level appearance, what you see on your electric bill
or at the gas pump, or when you turn on your furnace to heat your home and water or cook your food.

Its a freeing of us as a culture, as individuals, as a species.
It is time that we are no longer enslaved by their system

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Re: What do you think will happen if we found a source of free energy?
« Reply #32 on: December 22, 2015, 08:35:53 PM »
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Offline conradelektro

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Re: What do you think will happen if we found a source of free energy?
« Reply #33 on: December 22, 2015, 09:11:43 PM »

What freedom of energy and technology will do for us, is redistribute the wealth, and the power.
people, companies, groups, and other entities will be able to do things they currently cannot do.
When we are able to lower the cost of energy, materials, products, SO MUCH that everyone can afford the luxuries of life...  everyone will have more expendable income, which they will sink into other areas of the economy.
As prices continue to drop, and items become extremely low cost, or nearly free, the money will hold less "meaning" in our lives. It won't matter anymore... everyone will have so much money they don't know what to do with it.
And the rich and powerful elite will have their fortunes, that are then worthless or "worth less".....

90% of the cost of EVERYTHING we buy, can be traced back to energy costs and energy-related taxation.
that means if we fix that problem, we can buy 10 things for our dollar.
That's not even including the further lowering of costs that will come from improving manufacturing techniques
as a result of the increase in available free energy.


This is a nice idea, but I do not buy it.

The freedom of energy and technology is and was always present. We just can not accept it. Yes, with more and cheaper energy one can produce more, but we do not really need more things. People who are free of greed live with very little in a very small house and use very little energy and very little of everything. But only few want such a life. I have met a few, but I could not live like that because I am also greedy and power hungry. (Being greedy and power hungry does not necessarily mean that one has success. Therefore do not worry, I am not rich and not powerful.)

If we got "free energy" (really cheap energy available with little investment by the Mega-Watt everywhere) the world would become a terrible place. Everybody would waste an incredible amount of energy (which causes even more global warming) and the wars and fights will become even more deadly. All conflicts will become more deadly, just imagine a ray gun in the hands of a criminal. Cars, boats and air-planes will become cheaper and more powerful, therefore even more traffic and transportation of goods, which will destroy nature even more. And so on, everything bad will become bigger and more dangerous.

I think you understand what I mean, therefore I stop.

It is clear where we differ. And there is no point in trying to convince each other. I hope you are right, but what I have seen on this world and also in me makes my view more plausible for me. May be you are a better person and therefore more hopeful.

Greetings, Conrad

Offline synchro1

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Re: What do you think will happen if we found a source of free energy?
« Reply #34 on: December 23, 2015, 08:29:22 PM »
@Conradelectro,

More evidence I chose the right guy to test my "Synchro Coil".

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Re: What do you think will happen if we found a source of free energy?
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Offline massive

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Re: What do you think will happen if we found a source of free energy?
« Reply #35 on: December 24, 2015, 12:40:27 AM »

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this company has been around a long time manufacturing free energy technology . these are amazing to see in person .
there are different small companies that have made these . OLD new york used these all over the place.

electric cars out numbered internal combustion cars in the late 1800s and early 1900s , the technology is not new , just the PR spin makes new and cutting edge

the best thing free energy could do is create a global crash  as opposed to the orchestrated "recession"
the ecomonic system needs total colapse


(google )  recessions have a history of repeating , the general population get hit hard every time.

if theres a REAL genuine crash then the guys at the top are gonna take a REAL genuine permanent hit and holding companies in the caymans , NZ etc , will be worthless

thats the only form of justice that can be served to that minority

Offline sm0ky2

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Re: What do you think will happen if we found a source of free energy?
« Reply #36 on: December 24, 2015, 07:23:19 AM »
I don't think we will see a total crash as a result of free energy.
what we would see is certain companies, or entire industries decline or cease to exist.
at the same time, other companies, and industries will increase in productivity.
new ones will be formed, and the $ will simply redistribute.
Investors will take money from one sector and put it into another.
For instance, if the demand on oil declines, what does that do for the plastic industry?
  plastic becomes cheaper and they can make a lot more of it.
 
This is one example of "price deflation"
price deflation is not the same as a recession. It is a natural function of the supply and demand system.
 Deflating the prices in the economy is actually a good thing, consumers have more expendable income
to place into other areas. The economy as a whole benefits from this.
 
Where-as in a recession, average income drops below the cost of living. (or the cost of living rises to above the average income)
  This DECREASES the expendable income, and every sector of the economy suffers. This is caused by price INFLATION.

While the people in control of the $$ want inflation, in the event of price deflation, rest assured they will protect their investments,
and maneuver their money around into the productive areas of our economy.
Sure, there may be some fat guy in a Saudi Arabian palace that loses his fortune, but all in all, our economy will be just fine.

more industries will benefit from this than will be harmed.

and while I can't argue against the potentially devastating environmental effects of a limitless human culture, I like to hope we will be responsible about it and use some of that free energy to run catalytic converters to clean up the air, and process waste materials in a responsible manner.

I think the whole world will change... there will be less need for greed.
that's not to say there wont be greedy people, or that people will not have any greed at all, but it will decrease when there is an abundance.
when we are not struggling to survive, the greed means less to us, or becomes less important in our lives.

there will always be evil or mal-intended people, we will deal with them the best we can... but overall, I think the shift will be towards a
more peaceful existence, because people will not be deprived, and their individual lives will be less stressful.

also with the increase in technology that will be associated with free energy, will make it harder to do bad things without everyone knowing about it.


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Re: What do you think will happen if we found a source of free energy?
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