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Author Topic: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can  (Read 4974 times)

Offline MagnaProp

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USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
« on: December 07, 2015, 06:54:32 AM »
Been watching the Zen magnet company struggle against the CPSC to keep small magnets from getting banned. doesn't look good. Shame we won't have these around to test magnet motors and other such energy device experiments we may think up.

I'm still not sure if this ban only applied to small round magnets or if it includes the little 5 mm cube ones as well. I'm guessing it does. I think larger Neo's will still be available but they can get expensive fast at large sizes.

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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2015, 08:00:47 AM »
Been watching the Zen magnet company struggle against the CPSC to keep small magnets from getting banned. doesn't look good. Shame we won't have these around to test magnet motors and other such energy device experiments we may think up.

I'm still not sure if this ban only applied to small round magnets or if it includes the little 5 mm cube ones as well. I'm guessing it does. I think larger Neo's will still be available but they can get expensive fast at large sizes.

one can expect it will be removed from toystore shelves based on the direction the ban is about.

you will still be able to get them soon i expect, or people might just find ways of making their own.


though the vulcans made mention at the environment summit conference meeting going on that there has been too many 5mm round magnets already made and sold. and it has caused a distant planet made entirely from neodymium to reach our solar system and is now undergoing a slow decent towards our own planet due to rare earth magnets being bought mostly by one country for christmas presents, rather than keeping the material kept within the ground evenly dispersed around the globe.  shown here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNdRU-5tMfg

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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2015, 01:50:14 AM »
That video is banned so I can't view it :o We might be able to get ones that are to big for children to swallow but I think the little ones are gone for good :'(

They should have never been marketed toward children! I am aware of the tragedy that happened and it was only a matter of time based on the massive number of reports of kids eating them. I'm not even convinced that neo's are all that safe to handle in the first place, let alone young kids making necklaces and such out of them.

Marketing them to kids pretty much messed it up for the grown ups that know how to handle these things safely or at least safer. Although I do prefer to think of the ban as the governments way of trying to keep us from making free energy devices. Seems more 007 that way ::) 

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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2015, 01:50:14 AM »
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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2015, 02:18:09 AM »
https://www.kjmagnetics.com/products.asp?cat=12

You really should look up the specifics of the CPSC "ban" to find out just what is banned and what is not.

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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2015, 03:01:18 AM »
It's a crazy world if you can buy a semi automatic machine gun and a 100 rounds of bullets but a magnet is banned.

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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
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Offline MagnaProp

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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2015, 03:29:18 AM »
It's a crazy world if you can buy a semi automatic machine gun and a 100 rounds of bullets but a magnet is banned.
The gun lobby is much larger than the magnet lobby. The swimming pool lobby is apparently much larger also.

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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2015, 04:59:26 AM »
The gun lobby is much larger than the magnet lobby.
I heard the magnet lobby has been attracting new members (sorry)

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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
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Offline MagnaProp

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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2015, 07:26:12 AM »
Hope they can help us repel the CPSC.



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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2015, 09:38:00 AM »
Interesting videos that explains the reason they should ban the sphere magnets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXmNRITrn3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKyGDWeblQw

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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
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Offline Nink

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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2015, 03:45:53 PM »
Hope they can help us repel the CPSC.
I believe Zen is contesting again, so it is in a state of flux

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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2015, 08:19:36 AM »
They are contesting but as I understand it, the stay on the import ban has been lifted so the ban is in effect again meaning they are unable to import anymore. Once their domestic stock runs dry, that is it.

I think what pulp suggests is that we get some hollow point neo's. Then we might get the right to bear magnets again in this country.

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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2015, 02:33:04 AM »
It's a crazy world if you can buy a semi automatic machine gun and a 100 rounds of bullets but a magnet is banned.

There is no such thing as a semi automatic machine gun.  Check the laws and you will see that I am correct.

Under the US laws (where machine guns have been banned for private folks since 1934) a machine gun will fire more than one round with a single pull of the trigger.  A semi-automatic weapon will fire multiple rounds, but each round fired requires a separate trigger pull.

So, when you read in the paper where some crook had an "automatic pistol"...it just shows the ignorance of the reporters...as usual.

Bill

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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2015, 03:54:34 AM »
There is no such thing as a semi automatic machine gun.  Check the laws and you will see that I am correct.

Under the US laws (where machine guns have been banned for private folks since 1934) a machine gun will fire more than one round with a single pull of the trigger.  A semi-automatic weapon will fire multiple rounds, but each round fired requires a separate trigger pull.

So, when you read in the paper where some crook had an "automatic pistol"...it just shows the ignorance of the reporters...as usual.

Bill

Sorry I am from Canada, I can write what I know about guns on the outside of a zen magnet in 12 point font.




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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
« Reply #13 on: December 10, 2015, 08:24:05 AM »
There is no such thing as a semi automatic machine gun.  Check the laws and you will see that I am correct.

Under the US laws (where machine guns have been banned for private folks since 1934) a machine gun will fire more than one round with a single pull of the trigger.  A semi-automatic weapon will fire multiple rounds, but each round fired requires a separate trigger pull.

So, when you read in the paper where some crook had an "automatic pistol"...it just shows the ignorance of the reporters...as usual.

Bill


I hate to disagree, but some machine pistols are ABSOLUTELY automatic. Look it up. Just because they are not LEGAL, does not mean they do not exist. I have friends who OWN machine pistols under a collectors license, as well as machine guns. SOME automatic weapons (what you seem to be calling a "machine gun", but which could be a machine pistol or an assault rifle) have a selector switch that allows them to act as semiautomatic (firing one round per trigger pull) a selector for short burst (firing a specific number of rounds per trigger pull) or automatic (firing everything in the magazine with one pull of the trigger). It depends on the weapon. Not ALL of them have this feature, but SOME of them do. So do SOME machine pistols. See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_fire
Not all reporters are ignorant. They just report things as fact without checking. We are ALL guilty of that at one time or another.

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Re: USA to ban sphere magnets- Get them while you can
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2015, 03:09:42 AM »

I hate to disagree, but some machine pistols are ABSOLUTELY automatic. Look it up. Just because they are not LEGAL, does not mean they do not exist. I have friends who OWN machine pistols under a collectors license, as well as machine guns. SOME automatic weapons (what you seem to be calling a "machine gun", but which could be a machine pistol or an assault rifle) have a selector switch that allows them to act as semiautomatic (firing one round per trigger pull) a selector for short burst (firing a specific number of rounds per trigger pull) or automatic (firing everything in the magazine with one pull of the trigger). It depends on the weapon. Not ALL of them have this feature, but SOME of them do. So do SOME machine pistols. See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_fire
Not all reporters are ignorant. They just report things as fact without checking. We are ALL guilty of that at one time or another.

Sure there are real auto pistols but, they are not legal here in the US without a special machine gun license. Neither is any weapon that does a 2 or 3 round burst. The law is very specific on one trigger pull per firing. My point was that, you can read on the AP about a guy with an "automatic handgun" and, of course, it turns out to be semi-auto.  Out local reporters do that all the time here even though they have been corrected many times by folks like me.  They also still report about a "concealed carry permit" even though we have a concealed carry license.  (Big difference legally)  They also report on "Underground caves".  (What other kind are there?)  My favorite is when describing a plane crash they say the "engine went into a stall".  Then they say the plane went into    "tail spin".  Of course there is no such thing in either  case.  Myself and my friends have repeatedly corrected the local media but, they still cling to their mistaken ideas.

I graduated from journalism school like 35 years ago and none of the crap being reported today would have passed muster with my old professors back then.

Bill

 

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