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Author Topic: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?  (Read 125629 times)

Offline Jimboot

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #90 on: December 03, 2015, 10:54:00 PM »
You threatened me and you are simply a poseur.  Your head would implode if you dared to be honest with yourself and with the people around here.  You "can't comment" on RMS's ridiculous "mistake" my ass.  It must be stressful and fatiguing to be "on" all the time and grind away at your psyche to be "in character" all the time.  Right mate?
Naaah being happy is my thing these days. I highly recommend the happify app on iOS. I reckon you'd get a lot from it.

Offline MileHigh

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #91 on: December 04, 2015, 01:50:40 AM »
Naaah being happy is my thing these days. I highly recommend the happify app on iOS. I reckon you'd get a lot from it.

Of course you would still be "on."

All that you did was spread out a mountain of hate and harassment for nothing.  My point still stands, the measurement made by RMS was nonsense and unacceptable and it is worth pointing out.  It's highly questionable in the context of the fact that this is affiliated with a company pitching product and it could be considered unethical pumping.

I was not abusive and my language was simply strong and I can use strong language if I want.  You are lying and impugning my character when you say that.  Go find comments where you allege I am openly abusive to people over the past year, see what you come up with.

This was just a stupid "performance" from you in an attempt to defend the indefensible.  It was just a stupid song and dance.  You spread out all this hate and what did you get?  Did you change anything?  The answer is no.  This was just an exercise in stupid ass chav/yob thuggery on your part for nothing.  To puff out your chest and "take me on" so people could read you and take in your "performance."  You should be ashamed of yourself for what you did.  You tried your best to make me out as the bad guy when you are the real bad guy spreading out all this hate just for the sake of hate and performance.

You had a good "fight" with me and you harassed me over and over, for what?  Do you feel good about yourself?  Are you proud of yourself?  Are you going to come back with some little attempt at wittiness again?  Is that's what it's all about for you?

I made my point, and any attempts by you to attack me and trying to defend the indefensible are just you being morally bankrupt and making an ass of yourself.  If you had had any guts and character you would simply have agreed with my point.  In fact I am sure you agree with me but you won't say it.  If you said it you would crack and expose your sham.  Get your act together and act like a decent civil person instead of harassing me and spreading hate.  Try working on being yourself instead of this phony baloney "character."

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #92 on: December 04, 2015, 09:57:58 AM »
Of course you would still be "on."

All that you did was spread out a mountain of hate and harassment for nothing.  My point still stands, the measurement made by RMS was nonsense and unacceptable and it is worth pointing out.  It's highly questionable in the context of the fact that this is affiliated with a company pitching product and it could be considered unethical pumping.

I was not abusive and my language was simply strong and I can use strong language if I want.  You are lying and impugning my character when you say that.  Go find comments where you allege I am openly abusive to people over the past year, see what you come up with.

This was just a stupid "performance" from you in an attempt to defend the indefensible.  It was just a stupid song and dance.  You spread out all this hate and what did you get?  Did you change anything?  The answer is no.  This was just an exercise in stupid ass chav/yob thuggery on your part for nothing.  To puff out your chest and "take me on" so people could read you and take in your "performance."  You should be ashamed of yourself for what you did.  You tried your best to make me out as the bad guy when you are the real bad guy spreading out all this hate just for the sake of hate and performance.

You had a good "fight" with me and you harassed me over and over, for what?  Do you feel good about yourself?  Are you proud of yourself?  Are you going to come back with some little attempt at wittiness again?  Is that's what it's all about for you?

I made my point, and any attempts by you to attack me and trying to defend the indefensible are just you being morally bankrupt and making an ass of yourself.  If you had had any guts and character you would simply have agreed with my point.  In fact I am sure you agree with me but you won't say it.  If you said it you would crack and expose your sham.  Get your act together and act like a decent civil person instead of harassing me and spreading hate.  Try working on being yourself instead of this phony baloney "character."
Oh man, you make me smile. "act like a decent civil person instead of harassing me and spreading hate." You're looking in the mirror when you said that right? Do you get out much? Do you socialise? I'm genuinely interested because I don't know you. You and I have VERY different ideas of what is socially acceptable and I cannot understand why you seem to full of such vitriol and hate. [/size]

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As I have stated before and I will state it again - I have not questioned your calculations. The point I was trying to make to you is that this whole thread started off as your little game of "spot the error" and you slandering Robert Murray. I simply asked you why the game why the slander? [/size]

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Please be so kind as to post my hateful remarks here. As for your abusive remarks over the past year... well you were banned for some of them I believe quite recently? Did you forget that? I'm actually quite a busy person like many here and I really don't have time to get the numerous examples of you being abusive to others here. In fact I actually defended you in one thread.  I'm sure others who have been the target of such abuse will have a better idea than me.


I'm sorry you see my questions as harassment. I can't control the way you feel, that is in your domain. For instance when you say I'm FOS it in no way upsets me because I have no idea who you are. You actually mean nothing to me. Others I have met here are wonderful and helpful. In fact to numerous to mention. Many of us have made wonderful friends here and we catch up regularly on line.  Generally we treat each other with respect. I just like this forum and it would be great if when you find a fault in someones work, you simply point out where the mistake is rather than the song and dance you made this thread and insinuating they are a crook. Should lower your blood pressure too! :) (btw I still haven't found the ignore button) PS,You make false claims. You have already abused others in this thread.

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #93 on: December 04, 2015, 10:26:48 AM »
There was a good reason for asking people if they could spot the glaring error.  This is a forum for energy research and if you can't spot an error in a clip like that, then you have to take stock and work on improving your skill set.  Pointing out facts is not slander.  Verb:  "Make false and damaging statements about (someone)."  I did not state anything that was false and people can draw their own conclusions about the clip.  Repeat: There was no slander.  So your little show is over and the facts are the facts.  With respect to another issue, stating the truth to EMjunkie drove him nuts and he wigged out and so both of us got banned.  That thread continues on and there is still nothing there.  And I was subject to abuse and I defended myself, go figure.  You are the one that needs to look in the mirror.

If RMS does not take down his clip and issue an apology and redo it properly, then people can draw their own conclusions one more time.  Right now the correct conclusion is that he has not demonstrated that his compounds for making his battery show an energy to weight ratio advantage over a lithium-ion cell.  He should take down that clip.

At 19:23 in the clip he says, "We've done that (the testing on his device) so we can make a direct comparison (with the lithium-ion battery)."  But he completely fails to make a direct comparison and the clip is a sham.

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #94 on: December 04, 2015, 11:54:43 AM »
I commented on his clip:

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #95 on: December 04, 2015, 03:57:18 PM »
On a cookie-free browser I can't see my YouTube posting.  I assume that is a YouTube feature and RMS is hiding my posting from public view.  But presumably RMS can see my posting, the only question is whether or not he will do something about it.  Scientific integrity and intellectual honesty and all that important stuff comes to mind.

I made some postings that he can't delete or hide on one of Lasersaber's clips.

http://www.marketwired.com/press-release/sunvault-energy-adds-robert-murray-smith-phd-to-its-board-of-directors-otcqb-svlt-2025367.htm

<<< "We are extremely pleased to have Dr. Murray-Smith join our board of directors," commented Gary Monaghan, Sunvault Energy CEO. "His contributions towards the combined work on our graphene battery will lead to the development of a graphene battery that will be far beyond anyone's current expectations," he added. Over the last number of weeks Sunvault technical team members and Dr. Robert Murray-Smith have developed what they believe to be a world changing graphene supercapacitor / battery. The size of the battery that the company believes it has created has far surpassed any industry expectations of what is believed could be created with graphene today. In the weeks to come the Company will begin independent third party verifications of this exciting development.

For clarification purposes, the battery that has been produced has been produced completely outside of the previously announced Supervault joint venture agreement. Sunvault Energy for speed to market reasons and for final product capability has developed in conjunction with Dr. Robert Murray- Smith a more robust and expansive graphene super capacitor /battery. A product with the fast charging elements of a supercapacitor combined with the power density of a battery. The methods used were not any used by the former Supervault JV. >>>

I wonder how those "independent third party verifications" are coming along now that we are six months since the press release and the verifications were supposed to start in the "weeks to come."

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #96 on: December 04, 2015, 10:40:40 PM »
There was a good reason for asking people if they could spot the glaring error.  This is a forum for energy research and if you can't spot an error in a clip like that, then you have to take stock and work on improving your skill set.  Pointing out facts is not slander.  Verb:  "Make false and damaging statements about (someone)."  I did not state anything that was false and people can draw their own conclusions about the clip.  Repeat: There was no slander.  So your little show is over and the facts are the facts.  With respect to another issue, stating the truth to EMjunkie drove him nuts and he wigged out and so both of us got banned.  That thread continues on and there is still nothing there.  And I was subject to abuse and I defended myself, go figure.  You are the one that needs to look in the mirror.

If RMS does not take down his clip and issue an apology and redo it properly, then people can draw their own conclusions one more time.  Right now the correct conclusion is that he has not demonstrated that his compounds for making his battery show an energy to weight ratio advantage over a lithium-ion cell.  He should take down that clip.

At 19:23 in the clip he says, "We've done that (the testing on his device) so we can make a direct comparison (with the lithium-ion battery)."  But he completely fails to make a direct comparison and the clip is a sham.


You really should retract your false claim that you have not abused people in this forum in the past 12 months. Not sure why you are trying to deceive us. I think you need to make an apology to everyone here for making such false claims.  You should also take all our rubbish out, iron our clothes and do other chores around the house for being so misleading.

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #97 on: December 05, 2015, 01:47:10 AM »
I think you need to make an apology to everyone here for making such false claims.

MH, Obviously, you should do nothing of the sort.

Between you and TK, you are the principal ones not afraid to tell the truth.

Notice, no one EVER refutes your claims. They just don't like the way it was delivered.
(mostly because it turns their beliefs upside down)

Pete

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #98 on: December 05, 2015, 02:03:26 AM »
MH, Obviously, you should do nothing of the sort.

Between you and TK, you are the principal ones not afraid to tell the truth.

Notice, no one EVER refutes your claims. They just don't like the way it was delivered.
(mostly because it turns their beliefs upside down)

Pete
I'm referring to his claim he has never abused anyone here in the last 12 months. Nothing to do with his calculations

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #99 on: December 05, 2015, 02:42:58 AM »
I'm referring to his claim he has never abused anyone here in the last 12 months. Nothing to do with his calculations

So, Let's review.

His calculations were completely spot on (as I have learned many times) and admitted by you -unless I missed that.

And hence he had every right to start a thread bringing into doubt RMS's claims.



And yet, you were still the one earlier in the thread who said that you would trust RMS over MH.


And then much later on in the thread, when your guy RMS (someone giving freely of their knowledge, much like EMJ, Wayne, HopeGirl and many more),
is shown to be someone who is knowingly making false claims.
You then need to go after MH's identity and then later method of delivery of the truthful message.


Why is it that every supporter of blatantly false FE and Huge energy improvement claims, have to resort to questions of ones identity.
BTW if one wants to know why people use pseudonyms on the web, please see the thread
by Hoppfield http://overunity.com/16125/besslers-mt-125/msg464993/#msg464993 where he has contacted the Law about another member.


BTW 2, my Mum never christened me PIH123, and I am hoping your mom had better sense than to name their son Jimboot.


Pete

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #100 on: December 05, 2015, 03:01:27 AM »
Ok little heads big mouths ask the man in question to respond to your claims

Did you miss the rest of the thread?.

How many times has MH shown where he has tried to reach out to RMS and RMS deleted that comment?

I can't see those comments any more, but I did see them briefly and can see the evidence where they were posted.


Look for negative comments on HopeGirls videos.
And for comparison, look how many comments on their be-do.com forum after the announcement of successful overunity.
It is an eye opener.

Pete

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #101 on: December 05, 2015, 03:07:28 AM »
and MH has never built and OU technology

And as for that comment, if he has never been able to do it, then neither will anyone on this forum ever get there.

And by TA (are you referring to Theoria-"A-Pot-To-Piss-In"Apophasis).
Yeah, well he has never shown anything worthwhile, so don't get all bent up over Kenny.

Pete

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #102 on: December 05, 2015, 04:54:48 AM »
...

TA the mad one is a vial monster of the mouth and MH is not someone I would trust and there for I do not believe he would of made contact or even tried to contact this man

 ....


I don't care of the perfection in the maths but there is a longer period of charge going on ...... And even that is pointless !

Re: 1st paragraph. I have no idea what the hell you are trying to say, so OK, I agree.

Re: 2nd paragraph, Yes TA is Mad. No probs there.
But I have witnessed MH's comments (there for a few hours in my browser) on RMS's channel.

They were suppressed.
WTF.
I thought only working devices have been suppressed over the last 140 years  ??? ??? ???



And obviously, you don't care about the math (let alone perfection), otherwise, you would not be commenting in a negative way.


And BTW, RMS comes from my home town in the UK, for which I should have some pride, and yet I feel sadly let down.

Pete

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #103 on: December 05, 2015, 05:22:32 AM »

You really should retract your false claim that you have not abused people in this forum in the past 12 months. Not sure why you are trying to deceive us. I think you need to make an apology to everyone here for making such false claims.  You should also take all our rubbish out, iron our clothes and do other chores around the house for being so misleading.

Thanks for the big omission on your part acknowledging that I did not commit slander.  I suppose you would "break" if you actually acknowledged it.  I do not abuse people on this forum and I am quite certain that many people have read me over the past 12 months and they know that to be true.  I make a conscious effort to be civil.  So, I stand by what I said, period.  You keep digging yourself into a deeper hole as you continue to make that pitch, and we can't forget that you openly threatened physical violence on me.  It's time for you to stop.  The last part of your posting is just a bizarre train wreck.

The winners here are the people that are now wiser and understand that Robert Murray-Smith presented junk data.  It's up to him to correct his error if he wants to gain credibility.  That is what this thread is all about.

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #104 on: December 05, 2015, 05:58:39 AM »
MH, Obviously, you should do nothing of the sort.

Between you and TK, you are the principal ones not afraid to tell the truth.

Notice, no one EVER refutes your claims. They just don't like the way it was delivered.
(mostly because it turns their beliefs upside down)

Pete

Pete,

Thank you for the support.  It happens often enough that you can get demonized around here when you are just trying to educate and convey the truth.  I am not perfect by any means, but I am honest and I am quite certain that many people can sense the veracity and the desire to do good in my statements.  Speaking up for logic and common sense is a good thing.  It's problematic to see the disciplines of science and engineering and the integrity associated with those disciplines get trashed like we saw in the example just discussed in this thread.  Especially when the person presenting the junk data appears to be "beyond reproach."  But alas, sometimes bridges collapse and when that happens you find out why and prosecute and convict those that failed in their duties, as it should be.

The measurement of the electrical energy output of a device is not "open to interpretation" and this is one of those things that is cast in stone.  If people don't play by the rules, then bad things happen like planes crash and buildings collapse.  And there is indeed a connection between tragic events like that and presenting junk data.  The crash of the Mars Climate Orbiter is another example that comes to mind.

Thanks again for your support.

MileHigh