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Author Topic: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?  (Read 94449 times)

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #285 on: July 08, 2016, 04:42:17 PM »
Brad:

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Yea-you have a problem with that?

Yea, I have a problem with that.

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Taking measurements of the voltage and current  at set time intervals over the duration of the test,will give us a graph where we can calculate the average power delivered to the load over that period of time.

It must be like the cartoons where your head gets hit by a big bell and you are back to normal because before you said, "it would seem that your average current over the 4 minutes was around 74mA,and your average voltage was around ,94 volt's. So this would give you an average output of about 69.5mW during the 4 minutes."

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A lot more when you actually understand what the hell is going on,and a whole lot more than your bumbled attempt at the !great! resonance in a wine glass fiasco.

Whoops!  Now it feels like your head just got hit by a big bell _again_.  The bungling and the fiasco for the wine glass resonance question was all on your side.  You were unable to answer the two simple questions about resonance, do you remember?  And you still are so daft or so caught up in your inability to admit that you are wrong lest you have a nervous breakdown that you still insist that a struck bell is not resonating!  I think perhaps you need to be hit in the head by a big bell one more time and that might fix things.

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #286 on: July 08, 2016, 04:55:29 PM »
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Your words mean nothing,and carry no weight at all MH--as they are nothing more than just words.
Your the man that would hide behind mommies back,when confronted by those you taunt--only now you hide behind the keyboard,as cowards like you do.

The pen is mightier than the bench Brad and my words have real meaning.  "Just words" is a foolish statement typically made by a philistine that can't string five sentences together to make a logical argument.

I am not "hiding" behind the keyboard, I am right here.  You are behind a keyboard too, did you notice?  Making a stupid Joule Thief won't change anything.

Speaking of making logical arguments, what is the true size of your "triphene" device?

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #287 on: July 08, 2016, 05:13:17 PM »
You are still doing it, what a joke.  If you only understood how ridiculous you make yourself look.

Wow MH
I have just been skimming through the JT 101 thread--you managed to get on the wrong side of just about every one on that thread,and yet the only one i had an argument with was you--as did most everyone else on that thread.

You should go back and read that whole thread again MH,and see what kind of trouble you caused.

!some! Quotes from other members toward you

MH's Lessons in Self-OU-Flagellation.

IMHO someone whom does not acknowledge that does not have a full understanding themselves, or maybe they are up to something else.

Your response to ramset indicates you seem to be incapable of simple yes or no answers to questions that only require a simple yes or no
for an answer, so I'm predicting your explanation will be a word salad.

Miles
your starting to look like a three day old Omelet

I think MH needs to explain a few things to US so that we can be sure he understands what things are

Are you claiming that it will NOT?
Ye who owns not a Joule Thief?

MileHigh - Youre fooling yourself with the same old childish one liners that the CIA Handbook taught you!
I am happy to donate $10 to the Shut Up MileHigh Fund!!!

Still an Idiot, no wonder no one takes you seriously!

MileHigh - Resorting to lies is not a very professional thing to do even for a CIA Troll.

But,You are wrong,, and as such you need to stop the games.



That was only from about 10 pages MH,and not one of them is from me--there all from most of the other members that were in that thread.
You should go re read the whole thread MH,and see what kind of a bone head you really were.

I will not post that post,where you used profanity never yet seen on this forum before,to that state that other members had to step in,and tell you to calm your language down.


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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #287 on: July 08, 2016, 05:13:17 PM »
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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #288 on: July 08, 2016, 05:20:23 PM »
The pen is mightier than the bench Brad and my words have real meaning.  "Just words" is a foolish statement typically made by a philistine that can't string five sentences together to make a logical argument.

I am not "hiding" behind the keyboard, I am right here.  You are behind a keyboard too, did you notice?  Making a stupid Joule Thief won't change anything.

Speaking of making logical arguments, what is the true size of your "triphene" device?

Ohhh,but it will MH.
This is your chance to show that the pen is mightier than the bench.

I am behind the keyboard MH,and im also winding a couple of toroid transformers,drinking coffee,transferring some movies from my computer to the external HD,and watching some cats fight out on my front lawn- all at the same time---what you doing ?


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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #289 on: July 08, 2016, 05:29:29 PM »
Trolls are those that have nothing of substance to offer, wish only to argue for the sake of argument, and have the technical prowess of a bowl of overcooked oatmeal.

A forum is considered to be in a 'bad state' when the number of controversial posts consistently exceeds the norm.
Without active moderation little can be done and the forum quality will decline.

For a perspective I often point people to this article: Online Troll or Provocateur – A Necessary Evil?

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #290 on: July 08, 2016, 05:35:55 PM »
Brad:





MileHigh

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Yea, I have a problem with that.

To bad--live with it. ;)

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It must be like the cartoons where your head gets hit by a big bell and you are back to normal because before you said, "it would seem that your average current over the 4 minutes was around 74mA,and your average voltage was around ,94 volt's. So this would give you an average output of about 69.5mW during the 4 minutes."

Is that how it would seem ?.


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Whoops!  Now it feels like your head just got hit by a big bell _again_.  The bungling and the fiasco for the wine glass resonance question was all on your side.  You were unable to answer the two simple questions about resonance, do you remember?  And you still are so daft or so caught up in your inability to admit that you are wrong lest you have a nervous breakdown that you still insist that a struck bell is not resonating!  I think perhaps you need to be hit in the head by a big bell one more time and that might fix things.

It would seem,that after reading the thread again,the only one that agreed with you was you lol
Others tried to point out the mistakes you made,but you would have none of that--MH knows better lol.


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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #291 on: July 08, 2016, 05:51:46 PM »
MH
Would seem a good time to show interest in "what and How" the group builds here as well as an opportunity to "teach".
and provide some balance to your technical contributions in the form of an actual Build ?

A simple PDF can be sent to previously mentioned member for assembly and testing ?

Surely not a more difficult task or commitment than the efforts you put in here on a day to day basis??

besides it might actually turn out to be fun...

??



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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #292 on: July 08, 2016, 06:07:38 PM »
Brad:

With respect to resonance and the wine glass questions I was absolutely correct.  You had been talking about resonance for years and when asked to actually explain what it was you didn't have the slightest clue and you were completely lost.  Now you know better.  With respect to the ideal coil and voltage source question, you didn't have the slightest clue and you were completely lost.  Now you know better.  Thanks to me you know better.

As far as the Joule Thief 101 thread goes, I said that there was no such thing as a "resonant Joule Thief" because a Joule Thief is a pulse circuit and has nothing whatsoever to do with resonance.  And as of this posting in July 2016 there isn't a resonant Joule Thief in sight.  It has been months now and there is no resonant Joule Thief, just like I said.

I told RMS that his "measurement" protocol was nonsense and his claims were false on the two clips that I looked at and that is true.  I have the moral high ground and what I said was correct.  And like usual, most people are just sheep and say nothing about fiascos like RMS.

I have plowed though hundreds and hundreds of your mistakes and misconceptions and made you a much more knowledgeable person and a better experimenter.  Certainly there are many others that have helped you also.

The root of everything I have done is good.  The intentions are good.  You can be a sourpus and sulk all you want, I really can't do anything about that.

Your supercapacitor clip is a lie, and you should be ashamed of yourself for emulating RMS and demonstrating all by yourself one of the worst attributes of the free energy cottage industry that we all loathe; false claims.

MileHigh

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #293 on: July 09, 2016, 12:05:29 AM »
Love and Pace to all members an guests,

once again, i am not interested in arguing with people.
My motivation is to learn.
To catch the beauty of physics.
That's my motivation to be a part of the community.

At this moment i have to thank the great builders in this forum like

Itzu, tinselkola, tinman, luc , EM Junkie, Erfinder, Wesley, Conrad and so many others.
Thank you very much for you YT Clips, thank you very much for your explanation.

Each new day i like to read the posts an view the vids.

BUT I DO NOT LIKE PEOPLE THAT ONLY TALK ABOUT THERE PERSONAL "ASS" RELATIONSHIP.

Dear Master Troll,
if you have a obsession with your ass, please consult a shrink.
Sorry, but your anal fixation is definitely  not welcome in my learning space.

If you are be able to focus at a question?
Does exist a difference between a ideal coil an a super conductive coil.
If there are a difference please teach me the basics.

I like to learn not to argue.

For that reason,
(Love+Peace)² to you MT

Love and Peace
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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #294 on: July 09, 2016, 12:57:29 AM »
3K

You are just making a fool of yourself and acting like a troll yourself.  Time for you to move forward.

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #295 on: July 09, 2016, 02:59:55 AM »
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With respect to resonance and the wine glass questions I was absolutely correct.  You had been talking about resonance for years and when asked to actually explain what it was you didn't have the slightest clue and you were completely lost.  Now you know better.

Unfortunately MH,you are still trying to come to grips with the difference between resonance and an object vibrating at it's natural resonant frequency.

 
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With respect to the ideal coil and voltage source question, you didn't have the slightest clue and you were completely lost.  Now you know better.  Thanks to me you know better.

Actually,there is no thanks to you at all.
I answered your question quite fine by my self,only in a way that you wanted it answered,and not in a way i think is correct.
You are of course,free to find your self an ideal coil,and an ideal voltage supply,and show us all that your !stipulated! answer is correct.

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As far as the Joule Thief 101 thread goes, I said that there was no such thing as a "resonant Joule Thief" because a Joule Thief is a pulse circuit and has nothing whatsoever to do with resonance.  And as of this posting in July 2016 there isn't a resonant Joule Thief in sight.  It has been months now and there is no resonant Joule Thief, just like I said.

Im not sure if you completely missed the boat about what that thread was about,or you were just board at the time?. The point being was,looking for a way to design and build a resonant JT-not a vibrating wine glass ;)

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I told RMS that his "measurement" protocol was nonsense and his claims were false on the two clips that I looked at and that is true.  I have the moral high ground and what I said was correct.  And like usual, most people are just sheep and say nothing about fiascos like RMS.

And this is classic you MH.
After 10+ month's,you are still going on about some one's mistakes,but dare not anyone raise the issues about the J/FET ,or base/emitter-base/collector junction breakdown voltage,associated with the death spike-hey MH?.

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I have plowed though hundreds and hundreds of your mistakes and misconceptions and made you a much more knowledgeable person and a better experimenter.  Certainly there are many others that have helped you also.

Yes,many have helped me out over the years MH,but still no TPU :D

Feel free to post just 10 of those mistakes i have made,that you corrected ;)

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The root of everything I have done is good.  The intentions are good.  You can be a sourpus and sulk all you want, I really can't do anything about that.

Im not sulking MH,i am just defending myself against your untruths.

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Your supercapacitor clip is a lie, and you should be ashamed of yourself for emulating RMS and demonstrating all by yourself one of the worst attributes of the free energy cottage industry that we all loathe; false claims.

See-defending myself against rubbish like the above.
Fact is,that cap held more than i stated ,in regards to energy density.
You watch a video ,where i charged the cap for 3 minutes,at a limited current value,and then went on to make some wackadoo calculations on how much energy the cap could actually hold.

I am truly amazed that you can make such calculations from a video clip,that in no way shape or form,was to carry out actual capacity measurements.
What kind of math did you use to do that?--unicorn math perhaps?.

I hope your mighty pen is put to paper,and that your master JT circuit is sent to said person for construction ;)
It would be good to see that you actually have the skill set you claim to have,and that your words are not just words.


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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #295 on: July 09, 2016, 02:59:55 AM »
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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #296 on: July 09, 2016, 04:25:37 AM »
Brad:

The resonance vs. natural resonant frequency pitch you are making is comical at this point in time.  Especially since I found two references that stated what I had been saying all along, there are two perfectly valid meanings for the term "resonance."  I have to assume that you went into brain fry mode when they were posted and all that you heard was sizzling static in your head.  But more importantly, and sadly, is your lack of ability to use your new understanding of what resonance actually is and then recognize it for yourself using your own intellect and innate ability to look at a situation and evaluate it all by yourself.

You were indeed a completely lost soul when it comes to the ideal coil and voltage source question.  You keep on believing whatever you think is correct.  And the search goes on in vain for the mythical "resonant Joule Thief."  It's somewhere out there, or is it just light refracting off of a  layer of hot air?  Since we don't hear about it I would think the search is lost in the sands of time.  And that led into the search for understanding about a resonant wine glass which was like some nightmare soap opera of the insane.

I will re-energize your hot neurons Brad, RMS came up because he made a fake clip about me where he lied through his teeth just a month ago.

Brad, Your supercapacitor clip is a lie, and you should be ashamed of yourself for emulating RMS and demonstrating all by yourself one of the worst attributes of the free energy cottage industry that we all loathe; false claims.

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You watch a video ,where i charged the cap for 3 minutes,at a limited current value,and then went on to make some wackadoo calculations on how much energy the cap could actually hold.

My whackadoo calculations prove that your claim of 2600 Farads is pure BS.  Shame on you for making false claims.  You don't offer any calculations yourself, whackadoo or otherwise.  Nor do you offer up any measurements to substantiate your ridiculous claim.  And I asked you to explain your recent comments with six sentences strung together that construct a logical argument that makes sense and you can't do it.  And that all should be a lesson to every experimenter to not make bogus claims off of the top of their head like you did.

If you want to prove me wrong then tell us right here and now how you would go about testing the device to make a proper measurement.  C'mon Brad, this is hanging and the clip is still up.  Demonstrate your "bench smarts" - how would you measure the capacitance?

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #297 on: July 09, 2016, 06:34:33 AM »
Brad:

From looking at your clip:

If the cap was truly 2600 farads you would have to be putting an average of 20 watts into the cap for three minutes to charge it, and your charging power starts at 0.17 watts and ends at nearly zero watts three minutes later.

Oops!  Perhaps you need to actually measure the capacitance of your device?

Here is what I said to RMS:

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A Maxwell K2Series BCAP 2000 Farad ultracapacitor is in a can that is 10 cm long x 6 cm in diameter.  In one of your clips you claim that you made a home-brew 2000 Farad capacitor that is roughly the size of a credit card.  Let us be conservative and say that you are claiming 10X the energy density by volume with your credit card sized capacitor that you claim is 2000 Farads. The onus is on you to prove that is true - that your credit-card-sized capacitor is 2000 Farads because right now I do not believe it.
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And you are claiming 2600 Farads in a device not much bigger than a large postage stamp!!!

Something does not jive daddy-o!!!

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #298 on: July 09, 2016, 09:31:29 AM »
Brad:

From looking at your clip:

If the cap was truly 2600 farads you would have to be putting an average of 20 watts into the cap for three minutes to charge it, and your charging power starts at 0.17 watts and ends at nearly zero watts three minutes later.

Oops!  Perhaps you need to actually measure the capacitance of your device?

Here is what I said to RMS:

<<<
A Maxwell K2Series BCAP 2000 Farad ultracapacitor is in a can that is 10 cm long x 6 cm in diameter.  In one of your clips you claim that you made a home-brew 2000 Farad capacitor that is roughly the size of a credit card.  Let us be conservative and say that you are claiming 10X the energy density by volume with your credit card sized capacitor that you claim is 2000 Farads. The onus is on you to prove that is true - that your credit-card-sized capacitor is 2000 Farads because right now I do not believe it.
>>>

And you are claiming 2600 Farads in a device not much bigger than a large postage stamp!!!

Something does not jive daddy-o!!!

< Attached pic:  2600 Farad 2.5V Boostcap >

MH
You do spend a lot of time proving nothing.

Here is some information on J/FETs,so as you dont make the same mistake twice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JFET

And some info on resonant systems in and around an ICE--so as you dont make that mistake again.

And just in case you forget the true scientific meaning of resonance,just so as you dont get it mixed up with a wine glass vibrating at it's natural resonant frequency.

Quote: In physics, resonance describes when a vibrating system or external force drives another system to oscillate with greater amplitude at a specific preferential frequency.

Hope this all helps out in your learning curve MH.


Brad

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Re: A Perspective On The B Type EESD - Robert Murray-Smith - Any issues?
« Reply #299 on: July 09, 2016, 03:08:40 PM »
Brad!

That is one suave bait and switch!  You are one cool cat.  Shaken not stirred!

How would you test your capacitor on the bench to determine the size?  Let's see your bench smarts in action on paper right now.

You built a mysterious capacitor of unknown value.  What would you do on the bench to measure the value of the capacitor?  What about measuring any other characteristics of the capacitor?  What are they and what would you do?

MileHigh

 

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