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Author Topic: Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback  (Read 18840 times)

Offline Creedo

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Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback
« on: October 20, 2006, 07:24:30 PM »
I have been brainstorming a little bit this morning and had an epiphany. Now we all know that an internal combustion engine works by compressing gas vapor and oxygen at top dead center? or TDC,  of the cylinders compression cycle and then BAM?ignites it causing the piston to slam downward thus turning the?. Well you know the rest.

WHAT IF this same principle was recreated in similar with opposing magnets at TDC? well of course we all know it would need to be a few degrees after TDC? but I think you all get my point. Would such a configuration utilizing magnets in a configuration that models the everyday gas engine be possible? Of course there would need to be a few modifications and timing issues, but? could it work? Heck even electro magnets used much like spark plugs might still qualify it for an over unity device with the proper timings.

Am I on to something here? Or is this something that has been tried?

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Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback
« on: October 20, 2006, 07:24:30 PM »

Offline Creedo

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Re: Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2006, 07:44:22 PM »
So to elaborate a little more, it would basicly be a crankshaft type design, and no the concept wouldnt be used to power vehicles... at least I dont see how... but maybe generators. Would depend if the friction could be kept to a minimum and in the case where electromagnets are involved it would of course need to be able to create more power than it uses.

/end rant  :P

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Re: Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2006, 08:53:35 PM »
Could you post an illustration of this idea?

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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2006, 08:53:35 PM »
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Offline Creedo

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Re: Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2006, 09:22:15 PM »
I could but it would take some time to draw... like a week or so.

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Re: Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2006, 06:34:40 PM »
How about this...

"mechanism consists of 2 pairs balancing magnets and shield at either end as per LFMA patent, 2 reciprocating connecting rods each terminating in S & N pole magnets as shown below, con rods to be  linked together by rachet or escapement "X"  and  suitable linkages from ratchet to move shields from (a) to (b).  (I= shield, <- or -> = force direction and conrod/magnet assembly motion )

(a)

N           S------------------N I S     F and motion = <-
                     X
N I S------------------N           S     F and motion = ->


(b)
then switch the shield position by a linkage from "X"  so:

N I S-------------------N           S    F = ->
                      X
N             S------------------N I S    F = <-


Question: would this "hang"?.....or by timing the insertion/shaping of the shield and using a suitable flywheel on the rachet could this be overcome? "

now consider how a Harley-Davidson crankshaft/big-end is configured (i.e. normal and forked conrod sitting on same journal)......ideas?

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Re: Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2006, 07:54:18 PM »
I had been thinking the same idea but, wasn't ready to post it. That was how I found this site, looking to see who had already tried this.

Basically, the pistons in the combustion engine would be replaced with a magnet and the where the valves/spark plugs are, would be an opposing magnet.

I was trying to find a cheap model V-8 engine so I could try this concept.

Magnets could also both be electromagnets, so you could maybe reverse polarity and have power on both the "push" and "pull" strokes for each cylider. And, unlike a four stroke, where you only get power every other rotation, this would be a constant push and pull through the entire rotation.

Not over-unity, but mine was a premise to power the automobile. 12-V car battery/starter begins the rotation and then the cars generator takes over to provide the power to drive the electromagnets.

But, even so, this could still drive a larger generator that should be capable of producing more output energy then required to drive it, say by including a transmission that shifts gears to reduce torque required to drive the generator.

Now, just to find that plastic engine with the right sized electromagnets!

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Re: Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2006, 08:15:42 PM »
I was on a site the other day and I am sure the link came from one of the threads in here.
Basically it was a crank and a piston.

On top of the piston was a magnet and in the head above the other piston was another magnet that repelled the piston downwards.

As the crank rotated it pushed a piece of magnetic shielding in the two magnets and the piston went back to the top, as it hit top end the shield was again mechanically slidden out of the way and so on.

Nice animation as well. Maybe someone else remembers it and can post the link.

Regards

Sean.

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Offline FreeEnergy

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Re: Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2006, 09:56:47 PM »
i did a quick search here at overunity.com and i think this is the thread you are talking about.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,600.0.html  ;D

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Re: Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2006, 10:52:25 PM »
Thanks for that Freeenergy

But was not that one.

In the thread there was a web link that took you to a really nice animation showing the full workings.
Will dig through my favourites in IE when I get a chance, I am sure I bookmarked it.

Regards

Sean.


i did a quick search here at overunity.com and i think this is the thread you are talking about.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,600.0.html  ;D

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Offline Creedo

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Re: Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2006, 11:45:45 PM »
So... a camshaft and piston approach to a self powerd magnet motor is a logical one after all?

...and here I was starting to think I would get laughed at... hehe :D

Offline Creedo

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Re: Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2006, 11:50:07 PM »
And not to get too far off topic here,  but would it make sence to place magnet motors inside a vaccuum to eliminate air friction?


...always thinking.... ;)

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Re: Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2006, 12:51:00 AM »
Hi all

@Sean
The motor design you mean, here in overunity.com is known as Russian Magnetmotor. You will find it here in the magnet motor section.

kr
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Re: Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2006, 12:52:56 AM »

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Re: Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2006, 01:19:35 AM »
told you it works... 8)

Offline SEFBOB1

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Re: Magnet Motor Idea... need feedback
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2006, 05:54:21 AM »
I was on a site the other day and I am sure the link came from one of the threads in here.
Basically it was a crank and a piston.

On top of the piston was a magnet and in the head above the other piston was another magnet that repelled the piston downwards.

As the crank rotated it pushed a piece of magnetic shielding in the two magnets and the piston went back to the top, as it hit top end the shield was again mechanically slidden out of the way and so on.

Nice animation as well. Maybe someone else remembers it and can post the link.

Regards

Sean.


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