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Author Topic: My 1st Selfrunning Generator?  (Read 14603 times)

verpies

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Re: My 1st Selfrunning Generator?
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2015, 09:45:55 PM »
Yes, that’s my question, but as far as i can see they are in phase.
But, your video does not show that.
Perhaps you could show us scopeshots of the EMF across your 9 coils connected in series (without the variac connected) and the EMF across that 10th coil.

...or wire a DPDT switch into the wire supplying your 9 coils to do that change "on the fly".

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Re: My 1st Selfrunning Generator?
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2015, 09:51:28 PM »
I’ve done that, may do a video, i also have the area calculated, which is more or less constant.
..and you begrudged us such a treat ?!

But i still wonder how voltage from the variac "beats" emf from the coils.
It shouldn't ...if the EMF from the 10th coil is representative of the EMF from the other 9 coils connected in series.

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Re: My 1st Selfrunning Generator?
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2015, 10:01:18 PM »
..and you begrudged us such a treat ?!

I just did it a minute ago ;-)
But I’m out of time now, hopefully I have more time tomorrow night.

/Hob

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Re: My 1st Selfrunning Generator?
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2015, 02:03:36 PM »
Update first showing the EMF and then consumed energy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPs9Xa2jpG0

/Hob

verpies

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Re: My 1st Selfrunning Generator?
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2015, 05:42:33 PM »
Update first showing the EMF and then consumed energy:
Thanks for the power waveform.  I could not read the statistic from this math waveform but if it is an integral of it then the result is in Watt*seconds which are Joules (units of energy).
If the statistic displays the average of this waveform then it should be read as Watts (units of power).

However you video did not show us the phase difference between the EMF of the 9 coils and the EMF of the 10th coil, because I asked about this:
Perhaps you could show us scopeshots of the EMF across your 9 coils connected in series (without the variac connected) and the EMF across that 10th coil.
...and your video showed this:

"scopeshots of the EMF across your 9 coils connected in series (without the variac connected) and the EMF across that 10th coil, with the EMF of the variac added"

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Re: My 1st Selfrunning Generator?
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2015, 07:16:35 PM »
Thanks for the power waveform.  I could not read the statistic from this math waveform but if it is an integral of it then the result is in Watt*seconds which are Joules (units of energy).
If the statistic displays the average of this waveform then it should be read as Watts (units of power).

However you video did not show us the phase difference between the EMF of the 9 coils and the EMF of the 10th coil, because I asked about this:...and your video showed this:

"scopeshots of the EMF across your 9 coils connected in series (without the variac connected) and the EMF across that 10th coil, with the EMF of the variac added"

The rotor has 20 magnets and the stator has 10 evenly distributed coils, so all coils should have the same phase.

/Hob

verpies

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Re: My 1st Selfrunning Generator?
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2015, 07:29:42 PM »
The rotor has 20 magnets and the stator has 10 evenly distributed coils, so all coils should have the same phase.
Should...
Do you know what usually happens when you assUme ?

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Re: My 1st Selfrunning Generator?
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2015, 09:10:38 PM »
Should...
Do you know what usually happens when you assUme ?

:-)

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Re: My 1st Selfrunning Generator?
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2015, 12:29:09 AM »
Should...
Do you know what usually happens when you assUme ?

Well if everything was made and set perfect, they should all be in phase.  Hob can test each coil in comparison to the other ones individually to see if they are in phase with each other. Then if not, find the one that is most or least or in the middle, of out of phase group, and adjust the others to be in concert.  My Lasersaber like replication of his tiny motor that runs a long time on a 10uf cap, has issues with what we are talking about. Not just coil and magnet positions, but the strength and orientation of the magnet pole centers, of the magnets themselves, are off.

Had some n50 neo disks that one side of the radius had big problems with pole centers. Some were good. some off. some way off. screwed up everything.

Mags