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Author Topic: I would be curious for input on this simplest of all simple Magnet Devices  (Read 3627 times)

NathanCoppedge

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Check out the magnet device concept up at my website at nathancoppedge.com.

http://www.nathancoppedge.com/Perpetual_Motion_Magnet.html

The page also links to further diagrams, including a concept of swivel that might permit an imbalance.

The device attempts to use a unique principle of reacting against a sloped surface. Perhaps if the design was polished enough, some way could be found to create continuous motion, instead of stopping in the point of least resistance.

The key, if it is possible, appears to be positioning the swivel circle slightly inside the circular contact point between the outer circling magnet and the inner iron / steel ball. This would create an angularity between the point of least resistance (no matter where it is) and the magnetism.

I hope to get some comments. The device has been up since 2012 with no response by e-mail or otherwise.

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Re: I would be curious for input on this simplest of all simple Magnet Devices
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2015, 08:03:45 PM »

I just took this pic , but I set this up yesterday . I pulled the magnets from a magnetron out of a microwave oven .
just using a broken wooden light stand as a guide and putting the 2 rings on there to levitate . only friction is where the ring touches which is only slight .

the gap is 4 cm which pretty big . the rings are 58mm dia

no biggie but related to PM






NathanCoppedge

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Re: I would be curious for input on this simplest of all simple Magnet Devices
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2015, 04:32:18 AM »
I just took this pic , but I set this up yesterday . I pulled the magnets from a magnetron out of a microwave oven .
just using a broken wooden light stand as a guide and putting the 2 rings on there to levitate . only friction is where the ring touches which is only slight .

the gap is 4 cm which pretty big . the rings are 58mm dia

no biggie but related to PM

Thanks! I understand my design likely applies more to hobbyists than physicists, at least in the short term.

It would be interesting if making a steel ball pendulum swing around the magnets within a further ring above the magnets that was not magnetized, with a much higher attach-point would create some type of lasting motion of any kind.

It seems like the point of least resistance might sometimes be extended around the rings, since there is always mass from the ball pressing in, and a point of greater mass-pressure might be a point of less resistance when the mass of the ball has been relatively lifted already by magnetism---a kind of magnetic flux.

Otherwise, it's back to self-resetting dominoes, which I think are a possibility.