there is something admirable when anyone attempts to redefine previous  and current understanding.
if they are not hurting anyone or themselves and can find some enjoyment in the process, these are the people that deserve to be encouraged to continue with their efforts.

the studying invention motivated experimenter understands that if they make a breakthrough, it will be due to the result of their interpretation being from a different angle of design approach.
one should develop a filter for critical evaluations offered freely by outside influences, being able to filter the useful flow of knowledge they might actually be offering, or at least knowing that is how a critic prefers to be understood.

critics will always see things from their individual and sometimes shared points of view, some are based on practical research, others more based on opinion.
for example: after a caveman invented a wheel, a group of other cavepeople decided to focus on developing a lever to act as a braking system, so no one else would end up injured beyond repair like the original wheel designer was after a practical education in the effects of gravity moments after testing the new method of transportation using a hill.

there are some professional armchair critics that have never attempted to play on a field though, they can be found yelling at their tv screens mostly.
they could've scored that goal, they are usually sure of it.
they could've played a better role than some other actor they just watched on a tv show or at the movies, and are usually very good at trivia.
they race to be first in lines, skip the of idea racing ahead so they can offer to hold doors open for other people, and anyone who knows them, usually would not rely on them to want to change their tune.

there some good critics though too, they wont be found yelling at anyone to jump, instead they will try to be supportive, understanding that emotions can sometimes run high for a critic and for the less critical.
those critics know that there is much they themselves do not know, even if they can hit home runs more often than other teamplayers.
they know they could easily end up in a twisted wreck trying to push the limits of a funnycar at the time trials, so they never make such attempts at developing such a driving skill to be successful outside of baseball.
they are competitive though and want to win, and this motivation can be noticed in just about every occupational field.

sports is entertainment for most people, or a good excuse to get off the couch and go down the street to the park and throw a frisbee around or something.

most people do not have little labs set up in their garages and basements built to evaluate and or redefine theories about physics!
this is rare.
though if safety is always paramount, these are the teamplayers humanity can definitely appreciate for the useful results that raise the bar for the quality of life or making it last longer for everyone.

therefore, if you enjoy your research, please continue as you will seeing things from your own point of view, and understand that that ability might be considered a gift, even if you sometimes are seen and feel like a moth on a window screen, trying to get to a light source.

all the best

  There is one sad aspect to this. Technically, pirate88179, ab hammer and tinselkoala should be given credit for this build.
 They told me to prove it. It is how they teach people. It has nothing to do with my working at it because their teaching methods require obedience to them.
 And tinselkoala, since you've never made known who you are publicly, you might only be a computer program. They do exist where they interact
with people and most people can't tell the difference. This is because they don't ask for any specific information. But you have no name and no face.
 And like ab hammer, both of you will target me because of my service connected disabilities. I think that's something people like you over looked, I'm motivated so I can keep people like you and him from ruining my life. There is a reason why I consider my hearing loss a disability and am working to change how the U.S. Veteran's Administration views hearing losses.
 And with ab hammer, I did offer to help him have his knees fixed and he said no. I let my landlord's property manager know about this and he told me that he has no meniscus in his knee. It's very painful for him and he has to work. He has a family to support. So if things work out for me, I'll see if I can't help him to have his knee(s) replaced and also some financial aid since he does have a new car payment. No reason to see his credit  hurt because he needs his knee(s) fixed, is there ?

Hey Alan, Remember me ?
I discussed stuff with you rationally back in the day on the discovery sites
(Pete H on American Chopper etc)

I love your work with armor and your other creations.
While I might not agree with you on gravity devices,
I think we are on the same page with this individual.

Obviously, don't sweat it.
He is not smart enough to figure out where any of us are.
He has made that very clear in ALL of his postings.

over unity type forums are one of the only forums where fighting breaks out between complete strangers ....it doesnt make sense to me 

no one should have to resort to proving who they are or if they are a veteran , thats personal info and doesnt belong.

theres some top talent on this site . a few days ago I saw pics of scale model engines = jaw dropping
there electronics guys who know their stuff.

Ive never met Bessler , safe to say no one has . If some one wants to build a bessler wheel , its of benefit to us ALL , simply because someone some where is building  ...... the rest of us dont have to.

my hat goes off to everyone whos building some thing no matter what it is . its in people to create some thing.


hearding cats is pointless , I say let everyone go in what ever direction


Bessler ?    I simply dont know ......

   massive,
  In besslerwheel.com, there was a fight. A well respected member whose log on is jim_mich started a thread saying ban Jim. AB Hammer joined him. There was actually a fight whether or not I should have been allowed to post in the forum.
 AB Hammer and jim_mich won. Why people supported me was because I was building. I would try to explain some of what Bessler showed in his drawings with actual builds. Those who supported me did so because they wanted to learn more about Bessler's drawings. At besslerwheel.com, they are routinely discredited.
 With me, it is a 2 part equation. One part of it, I am bringing Bessler's work to life. The 2nd part is that I am letting people know that there is much to be learned from his drawings.
 Too many people think of perpetual motion as magic when it's engineering. As for the value in Bessler's work or perpetual motion, it's not a winning lottery ticket.
 And with Mt 125, Heron's Fountain could help to understand flow rates which is quite important. A lot of people think there is nothing to moving water through a pipe but even then, there is a science to that. Kind of why Bessler's work hasn't been realized.

                                                                                      Jim

p.s., I am very biased towards Bessler  :-D