Author Topic: Ed Gray's Circuit, am I in this alone? (Read 28661 times)

Nali2001 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 26, 2006, 04:26:30 PM »

"Tesla used an electromagnet with metal tips going near the spark gap and he would turn on the magnet just as the spark appeared to QUENCH it IN THE GAP."

Well this is next to impossible, because you can never time the electro magnet correct, because of the randomness of the spark. Plus the steel is not fast enough magnetizable by far. Too high frequency for normal steel. So the electro magnet was ?full on? all the time. Nowadays it can probably be replaced by neodymium magnets.

fcpeace17 · « **Reply #16 on:** October 26, 2006, 05:41:30 PM »

Quote from: Nali2001 on October 26, 2006, 04:26:30 PM

"Tesla used an electromagnet with metal tips going near the spark gap and he would turn on the magnet just as the spark appeared to QUENCH it IN THE GAP."

Well this is next to impossible, because you can never time the electro magnet correct, because of the randomness of the spark. Plus the steel is not fast enough magnetizable by far. Too high frequency for normal steel. So the electro magnet was ?full on? all the time. Nowadays it can probably be replaced by neodymium magnets.

So, the magnets WERE on the whole time?

Nali2001 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 26, 2006, 07:57:51 PM »

I don't see another way... Pulsing the electro magnets on the exact precise moment as the spark almost crossed the gap just is not doable with slow steel. Steel simply is not instantly fully magnetized, and a spark speed of ultra mega short duration and frequency just can?t be reached with steel (probably non other material as well) And I don't think that materials like metglass were used ^_^ hell, using laminates was a luxury back then. And because they only had hard steel magnets in those day's they had to use electro magnets to create strong magnetic fields. So maybe today neodymium magnets can do the trick. Don't know what field strength is required though. Keep also in mind that the "tips" of the magnets, close to the spark gap need to be insulated with something like mica, which has good insulating properties and is greatly heat resistant. And can be shaped. If not used, the spark might jump to the magnet.. If not used, the spark might jump to the magnet.

fcpeace17 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 04, 2006, 05:35:02 PM »

currently i am working on building a tesla coil and i was wondering if when it was up and running, if the circuit could somehow be used in part of the gray schmatic... mabey im wrong and the only thing they have in common is the quenched spark gap and high voltage.Evan

allcanadian · « **Reply #19 on:** November 04, 2006, 05:57:10 PM »

I mean no offense but i don't think the gray device is do-able, I think it works and you could drive a car on next to no energy-- but the arc gap would screw up every wire-less network,cell phones and radio stations for miles.That's probably why they shut him down, in this day and age of infomation that kind of RF interference would not be tolerated, unless you could shield it for zero interference.
just a thought

fcpeace17 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 08, 2006, 07:49:28 PM »

would an RF ground do away with this problem... while also doing away with the electro-radiant event itself? that = bad.

vne31 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 31, 2006, 06:38:04 PM »

Hi folks,

I am new to this forum and thought that " I " was the only one who cared about Ed Gray's motor. I purchased Peter L's latest edition of the Cold Electricity book and the last 4 pages contain, according to John Bedini, the exact circuit that Ed showed to John along with drawings of the " CSET " switching element tube. I am currently sourcing the components and believe this motor, possibly along with some of Bedini's technology, is the way to go for very high efficiency if not OU. Also, Bedini and Bearden's book, latest edition, Free energy Generation, circuits and schematics, probably contains everything we all need to make this work. Read the books, experiment, and post what you learn. This is how we beat the " misinformationists " who have taken over so many forums. It's less than 80 dollars for both books, anyone not willing to part with the money is not serious about energy or the possibility of OU. Let's get to work.

saintsnick · « **Reply #22 on:** March 19, 2007, 04:59:05 AM »

Is there anyone making this spark tube specified in the patent? OR... Is there any one selling these tubes made to the the patent specs? OR.... Are there any existing tubes made for other purposes which can be used in place of the tube patented by Gray in his circuit?

Appearantly, the tube in this circuit is where it happens. The remainder is all typical stuff, transformers, diodes, batteries. I just don't feel like getting into glass blowing. Any help out there?

-sNick

Trump · « **Reply #23 on:** March 28, 2007, 03:49:58 AM »

vne31,

You talked of John Bedini and the EV Gray Motor, did you ever ask John about some of your questions? or concerns on this EV Gray Motor? If you feel that john has some information you may need, by all means get with him. If you don't have a way to get with him I will do what I can to ask him, I know him. There are a few people that I know that are involved with this EV Gray Motor, I really don't know of anyone who has one built at this time, but I know some people that have a lot of theory covered on the EV Gray Motor at this time.

Has anyone here done any constructing of the motor yet, or is everyone in the thought stage?

I am not up on it as there are other interesting things going on with motors, I just came on this link see what was going on. I am sure you have a lot of good minds working on this project.

Regards

Trump

FredWalter · « **Reply #24 on:** March 28, 2007, 05:20:06 AM »

Quote from: vne31 on December 31, 2006, 06:38:04 PM

Bedini and Bearden's book, latest edition, Free energy Generation, circuits and schematics, probably contains everything we all need to make this work.

If their book contained everything needed to get overunity, then *THEY* would already have overunity.

fcpeace17 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 30, 2007, 03:52:22 PM »

i think the secret is in the circuit, not the motor, it is the circuit that is making this happen the motor is just application to run a load on. Does anyone remember how quick it was that in Peter L.'s book, gray and tesla pulsed their circuits? Evan

bugler · « **Reply #26 on:** May 14, 2007, 02:43:06 PM »

Hello,

I hope I find someone here interested in Ed Gray's power source.

I think all the information needed to replicate Ed Gray's power source is in:
1. Peter Lindemann book: the free energy secrets of cold electricity
2. http://merlib.org/files/pgfed/D1.pdf for info on the tube.
3. http://www.pureenergysystems.com/os/EdGrayMotor/PM_PEM_MG/plans/proto1GM/index.html#Circuit%20Subsection%203C
for a working prototype. This gives almost all components details.

My problem in understanding the prototype is in the "Circuit Subsection 3B" part.

You can see there capacitor #1 and a diode in parallel. You can see those two element in the previous part "Working Drawing #3A". BUT In #3B there is a diode (drawn horizontally) which is not in the Peter Lindemann circuit. I don't know why that diode is there and most important where the left extreme of that diode is connected to.

Anyone can help me with this?

Thanks.

karlproseck · « **Reply #27 on:** May 19, 2007, 01:27:20 AM »

Hi, just found this site and would like to contribute to the cause. I've been trying for the last few years to get this thing built off and on an would like to get it done. I'll look threw the forums and post again once I know what you guys have done so far.

navgray · « **Reply #28 on:** May 22, 2007, 01:51:46 PM »

Quote from: fcpeace17 on November 08, 2006, 07:49:28 PM

would an RF ground do away with this problem... while also doing away with the electro-radiant event itself? that = bad.

EV Gray Effect is very much manifested in the Bedini Patents disclosed in the public by way of their new book ....just one needs to tinker on them like how John says.
it is all about Shutteling of Energy and Fractionation concept.

Belive me Stanley Meyer WFC patent is co-related to the EV Gary Electro-Radiant Energy Infusion in very clever way!!!!!
Meyer used Water to inpart the excess infusion Energy in a manner that apparently defys The Electrochemistry of the process involved.
He causes RADIANT ENERGY (Universal Energy as he call it)to evoke form the very bulk of the H2O Molecule by way of Fractionation of the H2O molecular Dipolarity. (Please do'nt ask me for any more clue on this I'm in the process of designing my own Patent to incorporate such Amplification effect to come up with another contraption.)
for all those who keep the faith in the research keep up the good work, the dawn of this revolutanary Energy Technology is not far.
cheers
Navneet.

vondesastre · « **Reply #29 on:** August 17, 2007, 04:01:53 PM »

hey guys sorry to barge in

after numerous calculations and synthesys>>> i think i found us a way to get real free energy

>> stay tuned

i will be needing as much feedback as possible from you

lets do it together

i guess that this is the purpose of this forum anyway

i stand on grounds that >> many of our predecessors have opened ways but they all got stuck in their single lined research thus were unable to see the bigger picture

please feel free to join in

http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,3029.new.html#new

any contextual input will be welcomed

thanks in advance

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