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hope-hope

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2015, 05:14:12 PM »

Hello everyone!

i think working is better than talking , i have been choosing the long way, it seem to be difficult but at least i could understanding what i am doing, the problem isn't related to CCW or CW winding but rather about what's going on inside this device... for sure he didn't gave all the details about his system! this is for sure, this is why i gave my work so people at least could understand from where the excess energy came from ??

i will add more details later.





Void

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2015, 06:09:10 PM »
Hello everyone!
i think working is better than talking , i have been choosing the long way, it seem to be difficult but at least i could understanding what i am doing, the problem isn't related to CCW or CW winding but rather about what's going on inside this device... for sure he didn't gave all the details about his system! this is for sure, this is why i gave my work so people at least could understand from where the excess energy came from ??
i will add more details later.

Hi hope-hope. Myself and various other people over the years as well have actually put in many hours building and testing
variations of this and some other Don Smith circuits and could not see any overunity. This is definitely not just people talking.

If Don's circuits really produced overunity then he must have left out some very important details.
You said you have given details that explains where the excess energy is coming from. This implies that
you know how to make a Don Smith device produce overunity. Where can I see a video of your working
Don Smith device that is producing overunity? Surely to goodness you wouldn't claim that you understand
how Don Smith's device produces excess energy unless you had first proven the concept by building a working circuit?

These forums and youtube are full of people claiming to have working overunity electronic devices or claiming to know how
to produce overunity, but the vast majority actually don't have even a basic understanding of electronics or even know
how to properly make the most basic measurements. If you want to have any chance to convince anyone sane that you
know how to produce overunity and aren't just blowing hot air, in the very least you need to build and demonstrate a
working circuit. You have to understand that there is so much nonsense coming from these forums and from youtube that
any sane person just has to be very skeptical of any claims of overunity at this point. If you want to be taken at all seriously,
be prepared to demonstrate your concepts with working circuits, otherwise no one sane will be much interested. ;D

Magluvin

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2015, 05:19:46 AM »
Thanks for the pic Void.  Never seen that one.  Always wondered.

Mags

hope-hope

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2015, 09:42:01 AM »


Hello Void

Yes! i agree! a video demonstrate a working prototype is better, anyway i am just spreading my own ideas so maybe someone will find its way ... i am not looking for people to be interested as  this is the most easy thing to do!! 

magpwr

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2015, 04:35:37 PM »
hi,

There is a replication of the Don Smith device which was posted few years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI5XWz8aZvo

Void

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2015, 06:14:50 PM »
There is a replication of the Don Smith device which was posted few years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI5XWz8aZvo

That is not a 'replication' of Don Smith's circuit as the circuit shown in that video by BlueSerge obviously
has a number of significant differences from Don Smith's circuit. You can see that components are connected
differently and BlueSerge's setup also appears to use as many or more turns on the primary than on the secondary (possibly step down).

Also, as anyone who has any experience at testing these type of circuits would be aware, it is a major mistake
to attempt to estimate the output power based on how bright you think a bulb is glowing, especially
when the bulb is being driven with a signal that contains all sorts of high voltage spikes from spark gaps.
That is very deceiving. The output power is probably a fair bit less than the input power, but measuring the
output power with any degree of accuracy on a setup like this that uses one or more sparkgaps is very difficult
to do. These are not at all easy circuits to do meaningful tests with.

I had communicated briefly with BlueSerge a few years ago shortly after he had posted his videos, and he told me that
he accidently touched a high voltage capacitor lead and got a very bad shock, and that he had stopped all his experiments
with that type of circuit because of the bad shock he got. The warning I gave previously here about high voltage capacitors
of relatively large capacitance values being dangerous is for a good reason. You have to really know what you are doing and be
super careful when working around capacitors charged to high voltages.

On another note, the rising 'trumpet' voltage waveforms shown on his scope in the video are common waveforms seen when
using a sparkgap circuit. It is no way implies anything unusual is going on.


GeoFusion

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2015, 09:40:40 PM »
Hi there guyz ;)

A replication of Don Smith's Device.
 Used a schematic of Cloud (chinese) which has a video on youtube, will link it down in this post.


This is my attempt on replicating only the First half of the device with extraordinary results :).
 Must be tested and experimented on, Whom is ready to do this one , pls be safe , this one can kill,
those HV Discharging caps and Spark gap is no joke.

>>>              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-El9ObHCF0




This is Cloud's original video with working device showing a equiv. of 660 watt loading at the end.

>>>             https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfMtQYYkZto

Cheerz~

FatBird

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2015, 03:06:43 PM »
Absolutely AMAZING that he can get so much action from just shorting out adjacent turns!
That Don Smith replication has to be putting out a LOT of juice to do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfMtQYYkZto

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FatBird

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2015, 08:10:35 PM »
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Void

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2015, 08:54:47 PM »
Absolutely AMAZING that he can get so much action from just shorting out adjacent turns!
That Don Smith replication has to be putting out a LOT of juice to do that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfMtQYYkZto

No, that is normal as well for that type of circuit arrangement.
All you have to do is hook up an NST through a sparkgap arrangement to a secondary coil with not too many turns and
you will see that kind of arcing between windings. If you don't have too many turns on the secondary, then
there is a large voltage difference between each turn on the secondary coil, hence the arcing between turns.
All the best...


AlienGrey

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2018, 03:25:14 PM »
The 2 secondary coils config is something Ive wondered about.  Looking at Dons pictures of it, it seems hard to tell if the secondaries are wound opposite directions or wound in the same direction all the way across. even looking at the supposed originals of the circuit, there is a  possibility that the 2 halves of the secondary are oppositely wound.
This was a while back. But remember what I thought back then.

Mags
Thats interesting Where did you see that? As Don shows in one of his videos a commercial device where he comments on how its made or altered
he has a long wound coil he counts 4 Turns then removes 2 0r 3 turns then counts another 12 turns and another gap with removed  or 3 turns and then
another 12 turns is counted end of coil modification, I see no way the one 12 turn coil is reversed in his device. However, if winding your own coil then anything goes as long as you keep the phase the correct orientation.  ;D ;D

One thing though the GDT shown by one builder is not suitable at all (it's a regulator, not a spark gap it won't be of any use here that's for sure if indeedy deedy the device actually works, experiment yourself don't just sit speculating.  ;D ;D

AlienGrey

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2018, 03:52:31 PM »
This is going back a good way but still!  There are a lot of deliberate mistakes in it and as is I can't see anything happening if made up!

What cap value are you charging up doing into the first coil Coil  0.47 at 160,000 WTF no way you're after a spike, not pure DC and whats a neon regulator doing in the circuit? unless the gas has been let out and the electrodes ore
adjustable get a real spark gap. Oh and get a scope and tune it with an EHT loop.
 And if i were you I would use some bleeders across the caps before you kill your self with possibly some high luminosity low current LEDs so you can see it's on and generating high voltage don't forget some reverse voltage diodes as well.

justawatt

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2021, 07:45:31 PM »
Attempting don smith "Salty Citrus " replication
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cni08WjLTcc&t=52s

justawatt

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2021, 07:50:30 PM »
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