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Author Topic: Donald L Smith Device  (Read 13671 times)

Offline axel700

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Donald L Smith Device
« on: October 22, 2015, 01:40:56 AM »
Hi, I tried to build a Donald Smith Device like this one:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xGfQp3zw3WE/TCjnvo9v8yI/AAAAAAAAAB4/10GjIG1gKY4/s1600/don3.jpg

However, I can't make it to properly work. Could you please help me to figure out the problem? I would like to contact you through email as well, so if possible please share your emails.[/font][/color]

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Donald L Smith Device
« on: October 22, 2015, 01:40:56 AM »

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2015, 05:37:48 PM »
HI;

Could you state your age and technical background. This is a moderate power High Voltage! device
and I would like to see that you have the knowledge to handle it. Also I can help you to get it to
function but any overunity energy production would be your department. In general I can *not*
guarantee overunity energy production, that's between you and Don Smith :-).

:S:MarkSCoffman

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2015, 06:57:47 PM »

Hello everyone !


As stated before security caution have to be done before going so far in this high power device! i have a special idea about this device and it's published as free open source document : www.free-energy-info.com/Mohamed.pdf

i am developing the idea in this thread   http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19857-resonance-energy-device-explained-15.html , so feel free to join us there or just post here or even email me ! but the most important is this is an open project! anyone success in achieving high power using my idea have to post the detail about his method..

Regards  ;)


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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2015, 09:21:10 PM »
 
Thanks Hope_hope;
I knew I saw the schematic for this somewhere! I just did'nt want a newbie to put his circuit
online only to immediately be zapped by it's high output. This is a classic High Voltage
Tesla Coil with purpose designed RF transformer for final coil resonator. It may actually
work by attracting free electrons from the environment. It uses "radical" regagement of  E and I.
As in  E * I = W(atts)
I think Don Smith used a mobile 12V neon sign inverter/transformer equivalent to your
schematic circuit.
 
One would have to measure the output voltage and power to find an appropriate
(solar) HVDC inverter to power a recharger to recharge the 12V battery and close the loop
between the output and the battery. Many people have discussed how the big capacitors
seem to have something to do with overunity too. Unfortunately the big ultility line capacitors
of adaqute power rating may or may not have an adaqute ESR rating, depending on their
specifications, to handle the RF frequencies involved here.  So the circuit should definitely
function. But can it achieve the effiency required for overunity? That, the builders will
have to find out.
 
 :S:MarkSCoffman

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2015, 09:35:34 PM »
Hi, I tried to build a Donald Smith Device like this one:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xGfQp3zw3WE/TCjnvo9v8yI/AAAAAAAAAB4/10GjIG1gKY4/s1600/don3.jpg

However, I can't make it to properly work. Could you please help me to figure out the problem? I would like to contact you through email as well, so if possible please share your emails.[/font][/color]
       Is there now, or was there, a wiring schematic that you worked from?  Especially for that particular device?   Having one to try and compare with your prototype device might help to understand what's wrong with it.

--Lee

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
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Offline hope-hope

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2015, 01:27:41 PM »



Hello everyone !

i really have a bad connection here  :o so just a quick reply, the device of Donald smith is really very important since it's small in size, provide a good power output, not expensive , can be built anywhere in the world, produce ozone gas... in this last point it's better to take a look at one of Tesla patent about producing ozone so it will be clear there's a capacitive arrangement there  ;D, in my point of view the extended Tesla bifilar coil is the key for his device, i already invented another amazing coil called the mixed E-TBC or the mixed extended Tesla bifilar coil, this coil is able to produce voltage in one side and current in another side, more info in energetic forum where a lots of detail is there ...

the capacitor bank in Smith device has an enhancement role but any big capacitor can be charged if the resonance is achieved, this mean he used a special capacitor made exactly the same as the concept behind the E-TBC ! what does this mean ? this mean treating the capacitor as coil in one side so they will be charged very quickly .. ordinary chemical capacitor are made to avoid the inductance of foil so the internal connection inside them can be found in the middle but in Smith special made capacitor the connection will be found in the edge !!

just open any ordinary polarized capacitor and you will see where is the contact inside, the secret is related to the wrong concept of displacement current  what make any capacitor to be charged is the induced rotating electric field not the displacement current ! the same as the E-TBC where this field play a critical role, there's a simple experiment i did show this phenomena , so if the capacitor is treated as a coil it will be charged very soon !         

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2015, 02:51:11 AM »
Hi, i buld the following schematic (attachment).

I used:

-1 neon power supply CPI-10035, 10kV output at 35mA
-2 capacitors of .47uF at 16000V
-Primary coil  2.2uH (L1)
-Secondary coil, 2 of 12uH (L2)
-1 capacitor bank of 15kV at .2uf
-4 diodes to build a diode bridge

However, the circuit doesn't work. It is supposed to function when resonance in the circuit is achieved, so I believe that the values for both coils and capacitors doesn't match the neon power supply frequency, thus I would like to know  these values. Also, this Donald Smith device output delivers just enough power to turn on a 20mA LED.

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2015, 05:43:02 PM »
so I believe that the values for both coils and capacitors doesn't match the neon power supply frequency
I don't think you can expect to get the degree of tuning required simply by inserting the right circuit values. You need variable components so that you can tune them manually to get prpoer resonant tuning.

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2015, 04:54:57 PM »

Hello :)

i will just give my point of view ! the first thing we have to think about is the formation of standing waves inside Donald Smith device.. if these waves is related to the wire length or they will be just  formed automatically, OK this seem to be strange but before all please watch the full video about displacement current the new concept, here you are my video :

https://youtu.be/PyyTv2r1xlY 

the above concept prove that Donald smith used a special device and not an ordinary coil in parallel with a capacitor ! in smith device just making the secondary 4 time length more than the primary cause a perfect tuning without the need for using a very high frequency! this can be done even in 1 MHZ frequency, he used an E-TBC where the magnetism and electricity is related in electrostatic induction not electromagnetic induction ..     

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2015, 09:30:37 PM »
I spent a LOT Of Time, Money, & Effort trying to duplicate some of Don Smith's devices.
But sadly I could not get any of them to put out any Overunity whatsoever. 

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2015, 11:01:45 PM »



Hi FatBird !

you are not the only one did that ! i spent thousand of hours thinking about this device .. when i said thousand of hours i mean it , one day i felt something was burn inside my brain....  ;D,  working with ordinary coils and capacitors to replicate his system is a lost of time..., the first thing must be eliminated is the lenz's law responsible for energy conservation, so you are still inside the closed system trying to get an OU energy device... this is impossible ( at least this is my opinion)

the extended Tesla Bifilar coil meet all the requirements needed to build such device but at first please read the energetic forum for more details about the encountered problems...i have problems with the resonance because the lack of material to do so ... this lead me to think about even more powerful device called the mixed E-TBC still under development but the idea is proven to be correct practically ..

 

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2015, 03:24:09 AM »
Hi, i buld the following schematic (attachment).

I used:

-1 neon power supply CPI-10035, 10kV output at 35mA
-2 capacitors of .47uF at 16000V
-Primary coil  2.2uH (L1)
-Secondary coil, 2 of 12uH (L2)
-1 capacitor bank of 15kV at .2uf
-4 diodes to build a diode bridge

However, the circuit doesn't work. It is supposed to function when resonance in the circuit is achieved, so I believe that the values for both coils and capacitors doesn't match the neon power supply frequency, thus I would like to know  these values. Also, this Donald Smith device output delivers just enough power to turn on a 20mA LED.
It seems those 2 schematics are different in a few ways. Did you try both?

Mags

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2015, 03:31:53 AM »
The 2 secondary coils config is something Ive wondered about.  Looking at Dons pictures of it, it seems hard to tell if the secondaries are wound opposite directions or wound in the same direction all the way across. even looking at the supposed originals of the circuit, there is a  possibility that the 2 halves of the secondary are oppositely wound.
This was a while back. But remember what I thought back then.

Mags

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2015, 03:52:11 PM »
However, the circuit doesn't work. It is supposed to function when resonance in the circuit is achieved, so I believe that the values for both coils and capacitors doesn't match the neon power supply frequency, thus I would like to know  these values. Also, this Donald Smith device output delivers just enough power to turn on a 20mA LED.

Hi axel700. I have spent a fair bit of time going over Don Smith's circuits and video presentations in the
past and reading through discussions of his circuits in forums, and no one has ever been able to reasonably
demonstrate a Don Smith circuit producing overunity that I have ever seen. A few people have claimed that
they have a Don Smith circuit working but they were not able to demonstrate anything at all. In the past several
years there have been a number of people who have spent a fair amount of time with Don Smith's theories
and circuits and could not produce overunity, or even see any unusual results of any kind for that matter.
It would appear that either Don Smith left out some very important details or he never actually had
an overunity circuit himself. When you ask people's advice for what you need to do to make a Don Smith circuit
work, you should understand that no one else has been able to make a Don Smith circuit work, or at least
no one has ever been willing to show their working circuit anyway, if they really have one ;)

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Re: Donald L Smith Device
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2015, 04:14:16 PM »
The 2 secondary coils config is something Ive wondered about.  Looking at Dons pictures of it, it seems hard to tell if the secondaries are wound opposite directions or wound in the same direction all the way across. even looking at the supposed originals of the circuit, there is a  possibility that the 2 halves of the secondary are oppositely wound.
This was a while back. But remember what I thought back then.
Mags

There were some pretty clear pictures of Don Smith's circuit posted a few years ago and it
seems clear to me that both secondary coils were wound in the same direction. Have a look
at the secondary winding start and end wires and the two center wires in the attached pictures,
and it should be clear that the two coils were wound in the same direction on Don's demonstration circuit.

I personally think people give much too much significance to this circuit considering Don Smith
never ever publicly demonstrated that this circuit could produce overunity. In one of Don Smith's conference
presentation videos, I recall Don Smith saying something like that he added the movable primary winding
(and he may have indicated the secondary capacitor as well) to see if he could tune it up better, but he said
something like that it didn't help with the performance. I think Don Smith did say that the circuit could produce
a lot of overunity in his tests, but the truth is Don Smith has made some claims here and there which seem to indicate
he really didn't know what he was talking about. I won't go into details as this has all been discussed in great
detail in the past in the forums, but Don did make some very questionable statements here and there. Some have suggested
that Don Smith may have become somewhat delusional in his later years, but I didn't not know him so I can't say if that were true or not.

Warning: Charging a large value capacitor to a high voltage can store enough energy in the capacitor to potentially kill a person.
People shouldn't mess around with such circuits unless you understand the dangers well and take all necessary precautions.

 

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