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Title: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: ramset on October 20, 2015, 01:41:17 AM
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20294-tesla-resonant-transformer.html?s=a45a6be205772d7c65785dce5ca42512

No antenna ? and distance does not effect output ?

collecting power from the ground with some tuned coils and a special circuit....needs a closer look as it sounds familiar...

Aaron
Quote
Nikola Tesla figured out a more fruitful path many years ago and the concept is very simple. Every AM radio station not only transmits Transverse Waves through the air, it transmits Longitudinal Waves through the Earth! What is significant about this ground transmission is that it does not conform to the Inverse Square Law. The energy between the AM station and the receiver for this ground transmission does not diminish by the square of the distance. That means that the energy in this ground transmission has almost no loss between the transmitter and receiver. Therefore, if you wanted to power something significant from an AM transmission, this IS the route you want to take.

end quote


thx
Chet
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: ramset on October 20, 2015, 04:48:30 PM

From the link

100 watts ??



"CAN YOU GET FREE ELECTRICITY FROM YOUR LOCAL AM RADIO STATION? WHAT IF YOU COULD LIGHT A 100 WATT BULB FROM THE GROUND? LEARN THE BASICS THAT PUTS TESLA'S RESONANT TRANSFORMER TECHNOLOGY RIGHT INTO YOUR HANDS!"

THIS INCLUDES 2 HOUR 45 MINUTES OF VIDEO PLUS A 303 PAGE BOOK FOR ONLY $7
 
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: Paul-R on October 20, 2015, 05:48:54 PM
From the link

100 watts ??



"CAN YOU GET FREE ELECTRICITY FROM YOUR LOCAL AM RADIO STATION? WHAT IF YOU COULD LIGHT A 100 WATT BULB FROM THE GROUND? LEARN THE BASICS THAT PUTS TESLA'S RESONANT TRANSFORMER TECHNOLOGY RIGHT INTO YOUR HANDS!"

THIS INCLUDES 2 HOUR 45 MINUTES OF VIDEO PLUS A 303 PAGE BOOK FOR ONLY $7
What about a circuit diagram?
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: ramset on October 21, 2015, 05:58:04 AM
working on that ATM as well as a build.

anybody else investigating this here ?
thx
Chet
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: forest on October 21, 2015, 10:51:44 AM
here you are http://overunity.com/16112/75-watt-free-energy-from-air-schematic/new/#new
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: Paul-R on October 21, 2015, 04:24:28 PM
here you are http://overunity.com/16112/75-watt-free-energy-from-air-schematic/new/#new (http://overunity.com/16112/75-watt-free-energy-from-air-schematic/new/#new)
That link talks of the usual long and high aerial.

I don't think that circuit is the right one.
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: citfta on October 24, 2015, 03:09:26 AM
This article may be of some interest to those of you interested in harvesting some energy from the radio stations.
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: Pirate88179 on October 24, 2015, 07:05:50 AM
Chet:

Check out the history of Nathan Stubblefield, who is known in KY (They have erected a monument to him) as the father of radio.  (We have a large topic on him here at ou)  He was doing this back in the late 1800's.  I am not sure if it was AM freq. or not but, he made the first transmission of a telephone call through the ground with no wires.  In my mind, he was the first to make a cell phone call.  He designed and ran the telephone system of Murry, KY using no wires at all...it was transmitted through the ground AND, powered by his earth batteries.  He was also a known associate of Tesla.

He also made the first known ship to shore phone call in Washington DC when he used his system from a boat.

I kid you not, all of this is true and I can/will post references if needed.

Funny how old things get rediscovered is it not?  (Maybe Dollard's system has nothing to do with this, I do not really know)

Bill
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: ramset on October 24, 2015, 02:44:29 PM
Carroll
thx for that link it seems to be quite "on Topic" regarding Tesla's feelings about air transmission and the ground aspect.

@ Bill
Yes Stubblefield was the first thing I thought of when I read about this, However his name is nowhere to be found in the claims ??
I suppose once we have it working we can understand it better ,the idea of communicating more effectively thru the ground
is intriguing ?  imagine a thru the ground "Ham" network ??

talk about  "the underground" [UK Term]

From the link

Nikola Tesla figured out a more fruitful path many years ago and the concept is very simple. Every AM radio station not only transmits Transverse Waves through the air, it transmits Longitudinal Waves through the Earth! What is significant about this ground transmission is that it does not conform to the Inverse Square Law. The energy between the AM station and the receiver for this ground transmission does not diminish by the square of the distance. That means that the energy in this ground transmission has almost no loss between the transmitter and receiver. Therefore, if you wanted to power something significant from an AM transmission, this IS the route you want to take.

Get your copy now: Crystal Radio Initiative

In addition to the ground transmission being nearly lossless, it is also faster than the electromagnetic waves sent through the air. The electromagnetic waves are moving just about at light speed so if the longitudinal ground transmission gets to the receiving end faster, what does that tell you? It is not subject to light speed limitations. It is not faster than the speed of light, it is instantaneous for all practical purposes and is therefore Extraluminal.

To experience exactly what Tesla had his hands on, which obviously overturn the conventional apple cart, what you need is not just any Crystal Radio but a Tesla type Crystal Radio using a Tesla Resonant Transformer. It is similar to a regular Crystal Radio, but it does not have an antenna - that is all build into the coil and it connects to the Earth. It is also actually very simple in principle and you can figure out how to build your own real Tesla Resonant Transformer with nothing more than junior high school basic algebra.

respectfully

Chet



Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: synchro1 on October 25, 2015, 01:43:20 PM
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20294-tesla-resonant-transformer.html?s=a45a6be205772d7c65785dce5ca42512

No antenna ? and distance does not effect output ?

collecting power from the ground with some tuned coils and a special circuit....needs a closer look as it sounds familiar...

Aaron
Quote
Nikola Tesla figured out a more fruitful path many years ago and the concept is very simple. Every AM radio station not only transmits Transverse Waves through the air, it transmits Longitudinal Waves through the Earth! What is significant about this ground transmission is that it does not conform to the Inverse Square Law. The energy between the AM station and the receiver for this ground transmission does not diminish by the square of the distance. That means that the energy in this ground transmission has almost no loss between the transmitter and receiver. Therefore, if you wanted to power something significant from an AM transmission, this IS the route you want to take.

end quote


thx
Chet

@ramset,

Multiple AM receivers don't increase the load on the Transverse Wave broadcast signal; Would multiple ground energy receivers act the same way with the Longitudinal Power Wave?

Look at the analogy of Tesla's Wardenclyffe Tower below: "Each pulse of the pump is felt with equal force at all points of the sphere".



"The oscillating energy surges through the Earth to every point on the globe; Thus Electric light, heat and power can be drawn from any point on the Earth"!
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: synchro1 on October 25, 2015, 03:48:25 PM
@ramset,

The Longitudinal Power Wave you described would power the receiver equally well at the far corners of the Planet as well as it would in your own back yard; Instantaneously! My question to you is; Would multiple power receivers not increase the input demand on the Longitudinal Wave broadcast signal the same way as multiple A.M Transverse Wave receivers don't?
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: forest on October 25, 2015, 08:57:51 PM
@ramset,

The Longitudinal Power Wave you described would power the receiver equally well at the far corners of the Planet as well as it would in your own back yard; Instantaneously! My question to you is; Would multiple power receivers not increase the input demand on the Longitudinal Wave broadcast signal the same way as multiple A.M Transverse Wave receivers don't?


I think question do not apply, it's badly formulated.
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: ramset on October 25, 2015, 09:37:01 PM
well
experiments will tell just how far how strong and how well mother earth can be used as a transmitter of signal or power?

I was told that stubblefield had issues with his ground transmitter once electricity was in place in the cities [interference]??

thanks for all input and comments here.

Chet K
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: synchro1 on October 25, 2015, 09:38:43 PM

I think question do not apply, it's badly formulated.

@forest,

There's nothing wrong with the question formulation, the problem is simply a lack of comprehension on your part.
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: citfta on October 25, 2015, 10:31:31 PM
See the included quote which indicates power is drawn from the transmitter under the system designed by Tesla.  This quote comes from a 14 Mb document I found on the internet by Valone.  It is called Harnessing the Wheelwork of Nature by Thomas Valone.  It is too large for me to upload as an attachment.  I thought these comments by Tesla would clear up the recent questions asked.

 Quote from Tesla:  Tesla states, "As to the transmission of power through space, that is a project which I
considered absolutely certain of success long since. Years ago I was in the position to transmit
wireless power to any distance without limit other than that imposed by the physical
dimensions of the globe. In my system it makes no difference what the distance is. The
efficiency of the transmission can be as high as 96 or 97 per cent, and there are practically no
losses except such as are inevitable in the running of the machinery. When there is no
receiver there is no energy consumption anywhere. When the receiver is put on, it draws
power. That is the exact opposite of the Hertz-wave system. In that case, if you have a plant
of 1,000 horsepower (750 kW), it is radiating all the time whether the energy is received or
not; but in my system no power is lost. When there are no receivers, the plant consumes only a
few horsepower necessary to maintain the vibration; it runs idle, as the Edison plant when the
lamps and motors are shut off."9
 
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: Pirate88179 on October 25, 2015, 10:38:50 PM
well
experiments will tell just how far how strong and how well mother earth can be used as a transmitter of signal or power?

I was told that stubblefield had issues with his ground transmitter once electricity was in place in the cities [interference]??

thanks for all input and comments here.

Chet K

Well, the navy has used ELF  (extremely low freq.) to communicate with subs deep under water for years.  The transmitting station has to be in a special place geologically speaking (there are only a few known sites in the world at this time) and the waves travel (very slowly) through the earth and can reach a deeply submerged sub many thousands of miles away on the other side of the world.  The curvature of the earth does not inhibit these signals at all.  This is similar to what Tesla was working on at Wardencliff.  Most folks think he was sending energy through the air but, from what I have read in many places, he was actually sending signals through the earth which may very well be where the Navy got the idea for ELF in the first place.  The Russians also have this technology and, like the US, have been using it for many, many years now.

As far as Stubblefield goes,  what we found out in our research was basically that he decided to use pitchblend (uranium ore) in order to up his transmitting power and, since he seeded his garden with it for his experiments, one of his kids got very sick from eating the planted vegetables and died. (Potatoes I think) Then his wife left him taking the other kids and he was alone and more likely broke.  I do not remember reading about the newly installed power grid interfering with his experiments but, of course, it could easily be true.

Bill

PS  This will scare you.  The US uses the ELF in order to launch a nuclear attack if needed by only sending a "launch" signal.  The Russians use it a little differently.  They broadcast an "all clear" message to their subs constantly and, if that signal ever stops, their orders are to launch.  This would be fine unless, oh I don't know, an electronic component fries or some black out happens or whatever.  Shit happens as we all know.  In that case, the sub Captains would launch all of their missiles.  This knowledge does not help me to sleep at night.

Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: synchro1 on October 26, 2015, 12:07:26 AM
See the included quote which indicates power is drawn from the transmitter under the system designed by Tesla.  This quote comes from a 14 Mb document I found on the internet by Valone.  It is called Harnessing the Wheelwork of Nature by Thomas Valone.  It is too large for me to upload as an attachment.  I thought these comments by Tesla would clear up the recent questions asked.

 Quote from Tesla:  Tesla states, "As to the transmission of power through space, that is a project which I
considered absolutely certain of success long since. Years ago I was in the position to transmit
wireless power to any distance without limit other than that imposed by the physical
dimensions of the globe. In my system it makes no difference what the distance is. The
efficiency of the transmission can be as high as 96 or 97 per cent, and there are practically no
losses except such as are inevitable in the running of the machinery. When there is no
receiver there is no energy consumption anywhere. When the receiver is put on, it draws
power. That is the exact opposite of the Hertz-wave system. In that case, if you have a plant
of 1,000 horsepower (750 kW), it is radiating all the time whether the energy is received or
not; but in my system no power is lost. When there are no receivers, the plant consumes only a
few horsepower necessary to maintain the vibration; it runs idle, as the Edison plant when the
lamps and motors are shut off."9

@citfa,

Thank you for your thorough research. It's clear now that Tesla's ground power system tailored the output to match the load as an instantaneous event. The grid lags and uses a very complex system to match the output to load, especially during peak consumption hours.

Wardenclyffe had a rail system linked to it that carried coal cars for the turbine generators. A heavy load would force the laborers to shovel coal. No free lunch!

J.P. Morgan scraped the plant because it was impossible for his company to prevent consumers from pirating power straight from the ground anywhere in the world. That's how we wound up with an overhead loss grid with meters.
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: synchro1 on October 26, 2015, 01:11:23 AM
We could use Tesla's system if we plugged all the Worlds power plants into the ground and controlled them with a "Krell" super computer from Altair IV. Water might be released from a dam overflowing in Canada to supply power to a construction project in Nirobi. The power may have to be free and subsidized by a general fund, or a penny per watt plan. We could control emissions this way and reverse Global Warming, without straospheric Chem-Trails.

Large scale power pirating could easily be policed by sophisticated infra red satellite surveillance cameras.   

Would this involve "World Government"? "Super Efficiency" in a Global free market economy would be better. All we need's a new trade deal!

Geo-Thermal power from Iceland alone could probably meet all the World's energy needs.

Costa Rica may turn into the new Saudi Arabia with it's three active volcanos !
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: synchro1 on October 26, 2015, 01:54:45 AM
Don't anyone work their hopes up too high on this approach. It would probably electrocute half of today's city dwellers right off the bat in buildings with matching resonant frequency.
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: forest on October 26, 2015, 06:23:51 PM
synchro1


Fairy tale fairy tale...you read too much tales.... cifta is correct
Tesla abandoned Wardenclyffe because :


1  It could be used as a weapon
2  It never was planned to be overunity , it was planned to send power generated by hydropower plants
3  He found a better way, but also a better (in his opinion)  usage for it - antigravity
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: citfta on October 26, 2015, 06:52:49 PM
synchro1


Fairy tale fairy tale...you read too much tales.... cifta is correct
Tesla abandoned Wardenclyffe because :


1  It could be used as a weapon
2  It never was planned to be overunity , it was planned to send power generated by hydropower plants
3  He found a better way, but also a better (in his opinion)  usage for it - antigravity


Wow forest,

You certainly have me confused.  Where did I say anything about Tesla abandoning Wardenclyffe?   Everything I have ever read about Wardenclyffe clearly stated that Morgan quit funding it when he discovered he wouldn't be able to control who used the power.

I agree with your statement #2, but I have never seen any evidence anywhere that supports your #1 and #3 claims.  Do you have any evidence that supports those claims?
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: centraflow on October 26, 2015, 07:43:26 PM
Well, the navy has used ELF  (extremely low freq.) to communicate with subs deep under water for years.  The transmitting station has to be in a special place geologically speaking (there are only a few known sites in the world at this time) and the waves travel (very slowly) through the earth and can reach a deeply submerged sub many thousands of miles away on the other side of the world.  The curvature of the earth does not inhibit these signals at all.  This is similar to what Tesla was working on at Wardencliff.  Most folks think he was sending energy through the air but, from what I have read in many places, he was actually sending signals through the earth which may very well be where the Navy got the idea for ELF in the first place.  The Russians also have this technology and, like the US, have been using it for many, many years now.

As far as Stubblefield goes,  what we found out in our research was basically that he decided to use pitchblend (uranium ore) in order to up his transmitting power and, since he seeded his garden with it for his experiments, one of his kids got very sick from eating the planted vegetables and died. (Potatoes I think) Then his wife left him taking the other kids and he was alone and more likely broke.  I do not remember reading about the newly installed power grid interfering with his experiments but, of course, it could easily be true.

Bill

PS  This will scare you.  The US uses the ELF in order to launch a nuclear attack if needed by only sending a "launch" signal.  The Russians use it a little differently.  They broadcast an "all clear" message to their subs constantly and, if that signal ever stops, their orders are to launch.  This would be fine unless, oh I don't know, an electronic component fries or some black out happens or whatever.  Shit happens as we all know.  In that case, the sub Captains would launch all of their missiles.  This knowledge does not help me to sleep at night.


https://books.google.es/books?id=NOPpwVvNu44C&pg=PA37&lpg=PA37&dq=ELF+transmitter+in+Wales&source=bl&ots=qCbrQPToHV&sig=XK9tnQ9ZTqFoytowrRNG8jyuQDw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEMQ6AEwBmoVChMI49_AkePgyAIVg7gUCh1XCg_s#v=onepage&q=ELF%20transmitter%20in%20Wales&f=false (https://books.google.es/books?id=NOPpwVvNu44C&pg=PA37&lpg=PA37&dq=ELF+transmitter+in+Wales&source=bl&ots=qCbrQPToHV&sig=XK9tnQ9ZTqFoytowrRNG8jyuQDw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0CEMQ6AEwBmoVChMI49_AkePgyAIVg7gUCh1XCg_s#v=onepage&q=ELF%20transmitter%20in%20Wales&f=false)




The Criggion site Nr Oswestry (my home town) I know well, also I worked for Marconi in my time ;) 


ELF can only be used for Morse as it is the only possible type of modulation at such low frequencies, BUT, someone was working in my time on a negative earth transmitter with full modulation possibilities, Hmmmm I wonder if they ever got it to work????


Regards


Mike 8)
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: forest on October 26, 2015, 10:17:59 PM

Wow forest,

You certainly have me confused.  Where did I say anything about Tesla abandoning Wardenclyffe?   Everything I have ever read about Wardenclyffe clearly stated that Morgan quit funding it when he discovered he wouldn't be able to control who used the power.

I agree with your statement #2, but I have never seen any evidence anywhere that supports your #1 and #3 claims.  Do you have any evidence that supports those claims?


It might be that Morgan quit funding but not due to reasons we think. Tesla was prepared to send power using Wardenclyffe in the secure manner,
 so only a device tuned by him can tap this power. That is one of the reasons he patented multi-channel transmitters. He explained it in his interview ;-)
Yes, it is my personal assumption he used Wardenclyffe and maybe second tower to generate Tunguska disaster. Suddenly after 1908 he completely lost interest
 in Wardenclyffe.
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: citfta on October 27, 2015, 07:59:58 PM
Chet,

You said you were working on this.  Did you buy the video and book?  I know you can't post copyrighted material but if you bought it does it seem to be complete and useful information?   Or has anyone else bought this and would care to comment about it?  I am tempted to buy it just out of curiosity.

Carroll
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: Jimboot on October 27, 2015, 10:17:53 PM
Chet,

You said you were working on this.  Did you buy the video and book?  I know you can't post copyrighted material but if you bought it does it seem to be complete and useful information?   Or has anyone else bought this and would care to comment about it?  I am tempted to buy it just out of curiosity.

Carroll
I bought it last night and will let you know.
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: citfta on October 28, 2015, 01:01:15 AM
Thanks Jimboot,

I don't really mind spending a little money to get it.  It is more a matter of it is worth my time to watch the videos and read the book. I sometimes find Dollard a little hard to take.  We are both ham radio operators but there are time when he seems to be talking way over my head.

Thanks again,
Carroll
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: Jimboot on October 28, 2015, 01:22:52 AM
Thanks Jimboot,

I don't really mind spending a little money to get it.  It is more a matter of it is worth my time to watch the videos and read the book. I sometimes find Dollard a little hard to take.  We are both ham radio operators but there are time when he seems to be talking way over my head.

Thanks again,
Carroll
He always talks over my head... I usually need to watch 50 times before I understand even the smallest of details :)
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: Jimboot on October 28, 2015, 10:41:12 PM
My head hurts. Way above my pay grade but I will be watching several times more. Just the coil size calculations gave me a headache.
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: citfta on October 28, 2015, 11:18:43 PM
Jimboot,

If you want to really dig into it that deep the ARRL Radio Amateur's Handbook goes into explaining all the calculations and how it all works.  It is a great book for learning electronics for those that don't have any formal training in that field.  They have been publishing that book for several years with an update every couple of years or so.  But the calculations are the same from even a 30 year old book.  So you might find an old copy pretty cheap on Ebay or Amazon.  Plus the old ones even get into vacuum tube theory for those interested in them.

Carroll
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: antimony on March 31, 2019, 05:32:39 AM
Did anyone manage to replicate this successfully?

I have tried to find anyone, but i cant even find any replicators except from one guy on Youtube, and another guy.

Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: ramset on April 01, 2019, 02:41:51 PM
well,  I had some very big problems happen after this topic was started ...which took me outa the loop for quite some time.
at the very least it needs these questions answered....
for starters can you post the links to your comments ...the references to Builds ?

Did anyone manage to replicate this successfully?

I have tried to find anyone, but i cant even find any replicators except from one guy on Youtube, and another guy.


I will go and ask at Aaron's forum  "where has this been researched ?" , or if there is a builders board ? Here recently we have a lot of interest in wireless energy transfer , also in need of experiments and a builders topic.

respectfully
Chet K
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: antimony on April 01, 2019, 07:11:53 PM
I dont have been able to register an account on on energeticforum, so i have never been active over there, but i have this guys youtube channel where he posted a few videos on his replication, but there are not very much valuable information in them.

It would be great to see if there are people that have replicated this, because i am in way over my head here, as all this is new to me.
It is a whole new subject that i have never studied in depth before, but it not only is very interesting initiative, it is promising if just Eric can bring in enough people to research this.

https://youtu.be/HyRhUStqzt4

Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: antimony on April 01, 2019, 07:13:09 PM
https://youtu.be/0vE98shYHYk Presentation by EPD
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: antimony on August 26, 2019, 12:17:32 PM
I have been busy lately, but i havent lost interest in this project yet.
I havent been thinking seriously about replicating anything from of applying the math that Eric have given us, because of the simple reason that i dont have the room nor the money for materials, but i was thinking that i wanted to ask you guys if maybe it was possible to use a higher shortwave frequency in order to make the behemoth a little bit smaller.

I get that there are differences between AM and SW, but i still wanted to ask.

My closest AM transmitter that is powerful enough is located in Lithuania, or Romania so i dont think that this would even work anyway even if i made it several meters in diameter and make it resonate at 540 khz that is Europes most powerful TX because it is a ground wave AM receiver and i am located on the west coast of Sweden (Gothenburg).

Any thoughts, anybody?
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: Thaelin on August 27, 2019, 01:03:27 AM
  Both videos are blocked due to copyright by A&P Media

Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: d3x0r on August 28, 2019, 07:41:15 AM
Hello!


See, it's time's like this I wish I could really really talk to someone in-the-know.


So how much voltage is a signal from the ground?


What if I just wanted to light up a few LEDs....  with a coil plugged into the ground with a topload or base capacitor that makes the thing resemble a local AM station frequency?    If i made a few of these an through them togrether, wouldn't they work kinda like a loop antenna and help amplify the signal ?


My other idea is to just make a stupid-simple kacher, and earth ground the one side and put out a bunch of similarly tuned coils... but I was reflecting about the radio range it might be in...


I know it's not a lot of power from the AM station,  but if it flashed a few times a second it would be sufficient.

Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: antimony on August 28, 2019, 01:17:49 PM
Hello!


See, it's time's like this I wish I could really really talk to someone in-the-know.


So how much voltage is a signal from the ground?


What if I just wanted to light up a few LEDs....  with a coil plugged into the ground with a topload or base capacitor that makes the thing resemble a local AM station frequency?    If i made a few of these an through them togrether, wouldn't they work kinda like a loop antenna and help amplify the signal ?


My other idea is to just make a stupid-simple kacher, and earth ground the one side and put out a bunch of similarly tuned coils... but I was reflecting about the radio range it might be in...


I know it's not a lot of power from the AM station,  but if it flashed a few times a second it would be sufficient.

I dont really know. I have made the earth battery/cells, and they measure at around 0.5-1 volt, but i have no idea about this one.

I have studied old style crystal radios, and radio stuff in general, and i think a kacher would be interesting to experiment with, but i think we would have had some results by now, if we (hobbyists) were able to go anywhere with it.

This is not a "overunity" oroject per se, instead a project in how to receive big signals through the earth, snd without antenna.
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: d3x0r on August 28, 2019, 05:52:56 PM
:) Yes, it's not attempting overunity :)  but overunity people are at least open enough to consider off the wall ideas.


And Dollard is about the only one I know of ( or could find in a search) that actually took the signal from the ground.  (Well actually I did find a guy with a tuner that used a ground pickup for VLF/LF transmissions; he was looking for submarine stuff, and got an airport 120-150 miles away.  )


but...
The other thing I just saw was someone who recently setup a tesla coil chain transmitting power through a potted plant.... and the old scientist before he went away was trying to transmit power through his outside garden; but, then he disappeared so, no idea.  Guess he found if he put more than the power input of load he couldn't get a resonant ring-up still....


so I was considering.. I've also seen tesla tower chains that were used to extend the range, so maybe I need to make more resonant receivers... then I'd have like (a similar situtation) a bunch of tuning forks with a single tone generator that should keep them all oscillating ... just need more power in than the LEDs 'burn off' when the voltage is met.


But then I was considering, if the small resonant receivers can receive that, can't I just leech off the 50kW AM stations that are nearby (sure the LEDs would flicker with the channels, but then they'd 'twinkle' and I could call that a 'feature' :) )
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: Reiyuki on August 29, 2019, 04:30:36 AM
I dont really know. I have made the earth battery/cells, and they measure at around 0.5-1 volt, but i have no idea about this one.

I have studied old style crystal radios, and radio stuff in general, and i think a kacher would be interesting to experiment with, but i think we would have had some results by now, if we (hobbyists) were able to go anywhere with it.

This is not a "overunity" project per se, instead a project in how to receive big signals through the earth, and without antenna.

The way Eric explains the phenomena and lays out his Steinmetz-derived formulas, energy production/consumption comes entirely from parametric variation of inductance/capacitance.  A dynamically changing inductance as an coil is being charged/discharged creates a discontinuity between cause and effect resulting in a hysteresis curve that is folded over itself (this overlapping portion represents synthesis/destruction depending on the phase angle).  Unfortunately these parameters are hard to wrangle as saturation, core material, frequency, Q factor, geometry, and other factors all come into play.

Ground-wave propagation and transmission of power is largely based on using the earth as a plate of a capacitor rather than a conductor.  Capacitive coupling.
Things get interesting when you consider velocities in these systems, because there is no propagation velocity in Coulomb's law.  In addition, dielectric losses through a distance might be lower than magnetic losses over a distance.

I think a lot of people get confused as there are often several different concepts involved in a single device.
Title: Re: Eric Dollard Harvests AM signal from Ground at full power No distance Limits"
Post by: d3x0r on August 29, 2019, 09:42:16 AM
Yes I had reflected on that a while too... my transmission line in this case looks like
 C-L-SignalDriver
 |
 C-L-MC
 |
 C-L-MC
 |
 C-L-MC


using just the inherant capacitance of the L really as the capacitance, there could be a mass on the top to act as a larger resivoir of space for electrons (a mass-capacitance)


where the ground is a capacitive coupling to the next coil...


vary similar to the turned circuits Dollard did that seemed to amplify the power avallalble...
In my experiments I think I didn't have as much accuracy so the slight deviations were an issue; but an interesting thing I did see in the capacitive based transmission line was that each section seemed to be charged before the source was at its peak, by a small degree each one down... although it's probably that was advanced like 350 (170?) degrees.