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Author Topic: Canada to California pipeline aqueduct and hydro-turbine power generator.  (Read 10555 times)

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William Shatner envisioned moving fresh water to parched California from Canadian lakes through a pipeline aqueduct. I realized that installing large Gorlov in pipe hydo-turbines would generate terawatts of cheap, non-polluting, sustainable power. Plenty to energize a Hyperloop overhead. The "Conservative Straw Hat Republicans" traditionally delivered these kinds of large hydo-electric infrastructure projects in the past, with private investment, to irrigate and power our economy.   

The beauty of Gorlov's helical hydro turbine is that the blade turning backwards against the flow actually accelerates due to the "hydro-foil effect", and the turbine helps push the water through the pipe instead of slowing it down! They can be positioned in series at a calculated interval, and all deliver the same amount of power.

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"The OTA examined a plan to run four 14-foot diameter subsea aqueducts from Alaska's Prince Rupert Sound down the Pacific coast and then across Northern California to Shasta Lake".

"The estimated cost of the 1,400 mile pipeline was $110 billion, which would have required imported water to be sold at up to $4,000 per acre foot".

This concept would involve pumping the water. The Gorlov hydro turbines would run the system and generate excess power as well to sharply lower the per acre foot cost!

"Prince Rupert is known as “The City of Rainbows”, as it is Canada’s wettest city, with 2,590 millimetres (102 in) of annual precipitation on average, 2,470 millimetres (97.2 in) of that total being rain; in addition, 240 days per year have at least some precipitation, and there are only 1230 hours of sunshine per year, so it is regarded as the municipality in Canada which receives the least amount of sunshine annually".

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Williston Lake Reservoir in British Columbia, Canada:

Williston Lake is a reservoir created by the W. A. C. Bennett Dam and is located in the Northern Interior of British Columbia, Canada.

Area: 680 mi²

Surface elevation: 2,201'

Length: 156 miles

Width: 96.31 miles

Volume: 17.75 cubic miles

Catchment area: 27,799 mi²

Province: British Columbia
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Distance from Williston Lake to Shasta Lake, CA:

1,708 km or 1,050 miles.

The elevation of Shasta Lake (reservoir), when full, is 1067 feet above sea level.

That's 1,215 feet of drop over a distance of 1,050 miles.

That's roughly 1.15 feet of drop per mile.

Lake Williston is an artificial Hydro Electric reservoir that empties into the ocean, not for irrigation. We can catch the wasted spill off beneath the sluice.   
« Last Edit: October 19, 2015, 08:34:55 PM by synchro1 »

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"Too slow a flow, and the meandering trickle would pick up unhealthy sludge".

"A consistent, gentle slope was the goal of the Roman engineers. The slope of the Pont du Gard aqueduct in Southern France drops only 2 feet per mile along its length of 31 miles".

A slope of half that inclination would create a "Sludge" problem for the Romans, but it shouldn't present an insurmountable problem for our 21st century engineers. 

Perhaps it would help to filter or distill the water at the source.

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90% of this pipeline aqueduct would have to run underground. The in pipe Hyro-turbines could be positioned in narrowing sections to increase the flow velocity. For example; A 14ft diameter pipe could narrow down to 7ft where a string of turbines would sit. That would increase the velocity with out effecting the flow and increase the R.P.M of the turbine blades.

After 145 miles of drop, the in pipe pressure would have the potential of the Niagara Falls pennstock per cubic meter. That's the equivalent of "Seven Niagara falls"! Only a fraction of the Niagara river is diverted to pass through the Tesla turbine sluices in upstate New York, the remainder spills wantonly over the falls.

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The potential is inexhaustible; The limitation would be the amount of cheap electric power the grid could carry with out bankrupting the competing utility companies.

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@synchro1
One little problem, 70% of Canadians are strongly against all bulk water exports and the last government to even suggest it left office shortly after. Thus what you are proposing is a pipe dream with zero chance of success. Water is not on the table and never will be.
On an interesting note we are having a federal election today and the NDP mentioned the possibility of bulk water exports. They have seen a landslide in their support and went from first in the polls to third in a matter of weeks. Not going to happen dude, not in a thousand years because water is a part of our national identity.

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@synchro1
One little problem, 70% of Canadians are strongly against all bulk water exports and the last government to even suggest it left office shortly after. Thus what you are proposing is a pipe dream with zero chance of success. Water is not on the table and never will be.
On an interesting note we are having a federal election today and the NDP mentioned the possibility of bulk water exports. They seen a landslide in their support and went from first in the polls to third in a matter of weeks. Not going to happen dude, not in a thousand years because water is a part of our national identity.

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That may help explain why your "Keystone pipeline" is tabu!

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That may help explain why your "Keystone pipeline" is tabu!
That may very well be but I don't think most people understand how Canadians feel about water. Water is life and if you don't have it then you have nothing...period.  As such even though we have an over abundance it is not for sale. I mean our national symbols are the beaver, moose, the rocky mountains, ontario (the land of lakes) etc.. . Basically the chances of bulk water exports are about the same as the Americans giving up all their gun's and converting to muslims, lol.
 
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Re: Canada to California pipeline aqueduct and hydro-turbine power generator.
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2015, 03:49:17 AM »
@synchro1That may very well be but I don't think most people understand how Canadians feel about water. Water is life and if you don't have it then you have nothing...period.  As such even though we have an over abundance it is not for sale. I mean our national symbols are the beaver, moose, the rocky mountains, ontario (the land of lakes) etc.. . Basically the chances of bulk water exports are about the same as the Americans giving up all their gun's and converting to muslims, lol.
 
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@allcanadian,

It all finds it's way back to the Ocean where we it's hard to raise fruits and nuts from the sea floor.
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Re: Canada to California pipeline aqueduct and hydro-turbine power generator.
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Re: Canada to California pipeline aqueduct and hydro-turbine power generator.
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2015, 04:14:22 PM »
@synchro1
One little problem, 70% of Canadians are strongly against all bulk water exports and the last government to even suggest it left office shortly after. Thus what you are proposing is a pipe dream with zero chance of success. Water is not on the table and never will be.
On an interesting note we are having a federal election today and the NDP mentioned the possibility of bulk water exports. They have seen a landslide in their support and went from first in the polls to third in a matter of weeks. Not going to happen dude, not in a thousand years because water is a part of our national identity.

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  Not even if  William Shatner thinks so?

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Re: Canada to California pipeline aqueduct and hydro-turbine power generator.
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2015, 06:39:22 PM »
@Russ Lee,

Canada was my idea. Shatner's plan involves tapping into a watershed located in the state of Washington. He never to my knowledge coupled the in pipe Hydro-Turbine to his plan.

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Re: Canada to California pipeline aqueduct and hydro-turbine power generator.
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2015, 07:37:42 PM »
The potential energy contained in the water source is a function of volume and vertical drop. No turbine, of any kind, changes that. The turbines can convert the potential energy from the water into electricity, but that leaves the exiting water with less energy.

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Re: Canada to California pipeline aqueduct and hydro-turbine power generator.
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2015, 03:12:53 AM »
The potential energy contained in the water source is a function of volume and vertical drop. No turbine, of any kind, changes that. The turbines can convert the potential energy from the water into electricity, but that leaves the exiting water with less energy.

@memoryman,

The Gorlov Hydro-Turbine can run in series because it doesn't leave the exiting water with less energy. You've seen the propeller powered wheel driven wind car that sails at twice the wind speed into the wind, right? 

http://www.lucidenergy.com/

 

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