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guest1289

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Re: Magnetic mechanical Resonance ideas
« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2016, 05:18:33 PM »
In the following ,  I incorrectly refer to conductors emitting photons,  I only type that to make it easier to understand .

The motion of the electrons creates the magnetic-force in permanent-magnets  and  electromagnets .

   [    I got it wrong a 2 days ago,  I thought that the electrical-current in a conductor,  which causes the conductor to emit photons ( or the material that photons are made of,  you can't see it since it is at a different frequency to light, and may have other different properties ),     I thought that that emission of material is what the magnetic-field is composed of.  So I could not understand how permanent-magnets  work,  they have no reason to emit the photons( or the material that photons are made of  .    ]

     However,  I just remembered that an electron has an  electric-field,  and when the electron spins in orbit,  it must magnify or multiply the field,  or something else resulting from it's motion.
     So,  what happens in the electromagnet is that the electrical-current merely polarizes the electron spin orbits in all the atoms( or the atoms themselves ) in the conductor ,   merely turning the conductor into a temporary magnet .
      So,  now I understand how a permanent-magnet  works,   the field is made of the spinning electric-fields of the the spinning-electrons,  ( the orbits of all the atoms are polarized ),  and,  isn't the  electric-field  and  the  magnetic-field  unified  in  the  'theory of relativity'  or another of einstein's  main  theories,  I think it is the   'theory of relativity'  .

(  I knew it before, but had forgotten it )

   [  UPDATE :  I also just remembered, or I could be wrong,  that electrons give of a photon( or the material that photons are made of ) as they go from one energy-level to another energy-level( eg. from a low altitude orbit to a high altitude orbit ),  and I wonder how often they give of these photons( photon material ),  because the electrons and the atoms-core must be hit by photons( photon material ) very regularly,  so  I guess that either,   the electrons-electric-field works by the emission and receivable of photons( or photon material ),  or it's not connected to the   electrons-electric-field    ]
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Re: Magnetic mechanical Resonance ideas
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2016, 12:28:21 PM »
From now on I have to do the self running test of the EM Resonator. For that reason I use super capacitors.
Watching the diagram, you see beside the 6V battery 3 super caps ,of 3F-2.7V each, in series.
When the capacitors have a higher voltage than the battery, the diode stops the flow back to the battery.
Beside that the battery does not feed the circuit anymore, the current meter drops to zero miliAmps.
The resistor of 39 ohm reduces the current by recharging the capacitors. When the capacitors are charged,
the circuit runs now for about half a minute before the voltage drops below run level.
The Royal Art of the alchemist is, to spin solely on the capacities. The art is to improve the generated output.
We live in interesting times... says Nicolas Flamel. From now on I must persevere and be patient.

 

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Re: Magnetic mechanical Resonance ideas
« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2016, 11:05:51 PM »
If you really want the magnet assembly to oscillate at the true mechanical resonant frequency, you should consider using some kind of sensor (Hall effect, optical, pickup coil, etc) that will trigger the first stage of your Schmitt-trigger NAND chip from the actual motion of the magnet, rather than having it controlled by the RC oscillator's variable resistor. This feedback loop will then assure that your assembly automatically seeks and maintains oscillation at the self-resonant frequency. I'd suggest keeping the pulse-width control in place so that you can "trim" the power supplied to the solenoid for best performance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGmbN1CzmsQ

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Re: Magnetic mechanical Resonance ideas
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2016, 12:34:19 AM »
@ TinselKoala, nice linear piezo impact generator video! Thanks for the hints. In part 3 of my video blog you can see the use of reed switches
in the first resonator. I agree that this feedback works fine to keep the fixed magnets in tune. In the vertical resonator I explore
the interaction between the 'free flying' magnets. For that reason I prefer now a 'fixed' pulse oscillator because the wide sweep of frequenties.
Yes, the pulsewidth powertrim is an important tool. Nice to chat with an insider;-) Maybe I can use the generator coil as feedback sensor.
Did you, after the MescalMotor, go on with experiments on a linear system? I think linear systems are not quite explored. Making and testing
a linear motor-generator device is more easy than rotational systems. Also the sound feedback is of a different kind. Berto

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Re: Magnetic mechanical Resonance ideas
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2016, 05:47:05 PM »
Earlier, you  tried to detect if the  magnetic-fields  between  2 permanent-magnets,   move( are dynamic ),  using a field-viewer.

It may be that the  2 magnets  would  have to be far enough from each other,  for their  magnetic-fields  to sometimes join up,  or collide,  depending on whether it is N-S,  or N-N.

The reason I am thinking this is because of  http://physics.aps.org/story/v9/st30
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Also,  two magnets bouncing against each other using repulsion( without touching ),  could they possibly be inducing a small electric-current  in each other,  and as a result of the electric current,  could their  magnetic-field   increases  slightly ( like pulsing a magnet ),  a possible source of  free-energy( or not ) .
   (  I am putting this in a different thread,  because I have some unusual similar questions )

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Re: Magnetic mechanical Resonance ideas
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2016, 06:28:21 PM »
in a vertical set-up, for the system to achieve a true resonance,...
the size of the magnets must be different, to account for the force of gravity.

a larger magnet below, and smaller above. If the ratio is appropriate, gravity can be completely opposed in the vertical range of motion.
allowing for a purely magnetic response.

for the ease of experiment, I recommend using a horizontal set-up, like the one TK showed in the Piezo video.

When you consider the energy of gravity vs the EM field,... gravity always wins, by just a little... (heat, em radiation etc.)


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Re: Magnetic mechanical Resonance ideas
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2016, 06:32:35 PM »
also, just a side though.....

it may be useful to consider the frequency vs the range of motion,..
i.e. "wavelength", or something along those lines......

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Re: Magnetic mechanical Resonance ideas
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2016, 07:36:20 PM »
The years are counting; my eyesight is becoming bad. That is for a tinkerer, like me, too bad.
Nobody here on this forum is complaining about age and health; but I do. Today I was making
a new coil system for the resonator. It was an effort to see the lines and the copper wires sharp.
This week I tested the EM Resonator intensive with 2 big (generator) pickup coils. They are bifilar
coiled with thin AWG36 wire. One pickup coil is 2 x 320 Ohm 40mH. All windings in series are
producing about 2.5V DC. The shortcut current is some mA. This is not the way to go.
To catch more flux in the coils I had to make a 'real' linear generator coil stack. The coils became
more flat (no pancakes) and the wire thicker AWG32. The stack contains 7 coils with space in-between.
I hope that this single winded small coils, 10 Ohm, 1.5mH each, have a better output.
At least they will better catch the flux from the fast, free flying magnets inside the resonator.
Here some photo's from the coil factory.

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Re: Magnetic mechanical Resonance ideas
« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2016, 07:42:45 PM »
Last week I was testing the Resonator on output power. The pickup coils are producing not enough energy.
I realized that I had to make new generator coils. This became a stack of seven small coils spread over 6 cm.
Motor and the generator circuits are now on separated breadboards. The use of super capacitors improve
the puls power in the motor coil. This you can see and hear in the video when I switch the caps on.
I was very curious what the output power of the coil stack was doing. The first testst were disappointing.
All coils in series arouse lesser power than the single coils in series. I think the coil wire is to thick, AWG32.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n50dPf4PyFc


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Re: Magnetic mechanical Resonance ideas
« Reply #39 on: January 28, 2016, 02:48:10 AM »
Do Heinrich Kunel's procedures and devices for energy production actually work?
To find out I take a small dodge from the resonator to investigate his motionless generators.
All the materials, electronics and measuring tools are ready to check out his claim for overunity.
His drawings I saw so often, that now the time has come to build and test this energy device.

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Re: Magnetic mechanical Resonance ideas
« Reply #40 on: February 05, 2016, 02:22:49 PM »
DIY GAUSS METER.

Looking for a Gaussmeter for my projects on internet, I saw prices of more than hunderd Euro. There are just a few DIY meters on internet
but of poor quality. So, I had to make my own one. The circuit is simple to replicate by the use of a Linear Ratiometric Hall Effect Sensor,
the SS495A from Honeywell (2.50Euro). For the display I choose a mini digital panel voltmeter(2.50Euro). The window comperator is made
with a LM339 IC. There is only one trimpot to calibrate the offset between the North (Red LED) and South (Green LED).
The Hall sensor I made on top of an aluminium tube; this probe can be separated of the box for tests on difficult places.
A voltage readout on the display can easily be recalculated to the Gauss or Tesla unit for magnetic induction or flux.
In the video I will show some examples of the use of this handy tool for the electronic workshop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRWQT8NCzk8
 

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Re: Magnetic mechanical Resonance ideas
« Reply #41 on: February 20, 2016, 12:45:18 AM »
For my experiments with the Kunel replication I needed a sinus-cosinus coil driver. This kind of circuit is hard to find on the internet.
Many circuits work with on/off or pulse width modulation to drive a Mosfet. Analog circuits is another chapter. Working with setpoint
and gain is not that simple as one and zero's. The circuit I made is not perfect but is good enough for the effect I want to investigate.
The digital sinus I leave rough without smoothing. Beside the sinus a lot of spikes and noise is inducted in the coils, thats fine for
harvesting some extra juice. When using this circuit the magnetic flux is strong, inducing much more output than only square wave's.
The circuit works on 5V and pulls 40mA by a frequence of 200Hz. LED's lights bright. Tomorrow I test the Kunel setup. A video follows.


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Re: Magnetic mechanical Resonance ideas
« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2016, 04:27:20 PM »
This are the halftime results of a linear test setup at a linear transformer. You can see the oscilloscope images at primary and
secundary coils. The original digital sinus is not recognisable anymore. The super caps are not supplied with enough current
out of the secundary coils to make the circuit selfrunning. But I am quit near. Now still that 'exotic' extra energy.



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Re: Magnetic mechanical Resonance ideas
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2017, 08:31:17 AM »
excellent work berto3 I have been away for a while so missed all this,  I did experiment with the mechanical resonator arm but could not find a suitable material with right property's had the same problem very
slow resonance speed  need spring steel just right strength to get fast resonance.

in your device should maybe  try  ferrite magnet for the moving magnet its a bit  lighter in weight would give faster pulses i would think and next logical thing is to pull a vacuum in the glass tube will give even less friction
and faster movement by stopping the air compression in the stroke .
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Re: Magnetic mechanical Resonance ideas
« Reply #44 on: September 29, 2017, 01:23:03 PM »
Thank you dom444. My login name has changed from berto3 to labdesyn. I arranged a new workshop at home with the name Laboratoire de Synthése . I like to build new test set ups, so more energy projects are coming up.
The problem with the electro-mechanical resonator is indeed the low resonance frequency due to the mass of the magnets.
I tried to avoid, as much as possible, friction by a vertical use of the (plastic)tube. A clever use of gravity can help to enhance
the efficiency. May be I will pick-up that project later again but first a validation test setup of a counter rotating rotor/stator.
Next month I go to publish the outcome of that investigation in an other topic at this forum. Here already a picture.
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