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Title: Gravity powered machines...
Post by: iacob alex on September 23, 2015, 07:45:31 PM
.....at : www.notechmagazine.com/category/gravity-powered-machines (http://www.notechmagazine.com/category/gravity-powered-machines)
     All we need is to add...self-motion.
     Al_ex
Title: Re: Gravity powered machines...
Post by: iacob alex on October 04, 2015, 06:25:39 PM
.....as a patent , at : www.google.com/patents/US20080011552
     See also , the Reference list of patents ( including Renato Ribeiro /RAR Energia ).
     Al_ex
Title: Re: Gravity powered machines...
Post by: GeorgeWiseman on October 05, 2015, 09:53:27 PM
Can you guys comment on this Gravity Wheel idea of mine?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6gwO66mabE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6gwO66mabE)
Title: Re: Gravity powered machines...
Post by: norman6538 on October 06, 2015, 03:03:21 PM
George its great to hear from you. I have many failures in many boxes with gravity
devices.  It boils down to measurements - power in and power out. That said
I don't understand what lifts the weights from the inner track to the outer track
which would be the power in and then how much power out is measured from that
power in.

I have an OU device but no one is interested in an OU device unless it self runs. And to do that it takes
more than 200% efficiency to do the switching on and off and I have not achieved
that efficiency yet.
My greatest hope is to use the free power from permanent magnet attraction.
You can see some of my work here.

http://overunity.com/14876/permanent-magnet-ou-machine-working-today/msg445616/#msg445616

It may start some more cogs turning in your head.

Norman
Title: Re: Gravity powered machines...
Post by: iacob alex on October 06, 2015, 04:52:37 PM
      Hi George !
Take a look at :
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:SJack_Abeling_-_Gravity_Wheel_-_Weight_Power_Plant
      Al_ex
Title: Re: Gravity powered machines...
Post by: GeorgeWiseman on October 06, 2015, 05:52:19 PM
I have many failures in many boxes with gravity devices.  It boils down to measurements - power in and power out. That said
I don't understand what lifts the weights from the inner track to the outer track
which would be the power in and then how much power out is measured from that
power in.

The weights are 'lifted' / flung outward by centrifugal force once they are released from the CRs.  This happens after the wheel is pre-spun up to at least 65 rpm.  The 'gravity' energy in is calculated to be 5 ft/lbs of axle torque.  Full math and design details are in the Wiseman's Wheels eBook.  I'm willing to give free access to that eBook to anyone who demonstrates ability to understand the forces involved and is willing to discuss them.
Title: Re: Gravity powered machines...
Post by: GeorgeWiseman on October 06, 2015, 06:12:54 PM
      Hi George !
Take a look at :
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:SJack_Abeling_-_Gravity_Wheel_-_Weight_Power_Plant
      Al_ex

Thank you.  Great link.  I think the CCG Wheel will work better because the weights are not connected. 

Thus, when spun up to speed, so the upper weights will be flung outward (no need for connection bars) the weights DO NOT have to travel upward!  It is OK for the upper weights to travel 'horizontally' thus not needing as much energy to 'reset' as Preston's replication.  The energy needed to 'fling' the weights outward is provided by the inward moving weights at the bottom, so those energies balance.  The ONLY unbalanced energy is the axle torque induced by the center of gravity being offset from the center of rotation.
Title: Re: Gravity powered machines..
Post by: iacob alex on October 07, 2015, 06:55:43 PM
.....at : http://gravgen.weebly.com (http://gravgen.weebly.com)
          It's so easy to manifest your "ego" on net...as a gravity (seriousness or importance) "man".
      Al_ex
Title: Re: Gravity powered machines...
Post by: sm0ky2 on October 07, 2015, 07:13:55 PM
The weights are 'lifted' / flung outward by centrifugal force once they are released from the CRs.  This happens after the wheel is pre-spun up to at least 65 rpm.  The 'gravity' energy in is calculated to be 5 ft/lbs of axle torque.  Full math and design details are in the Wiseman's Wheels eBook.  I'm willing to give free access to that eBook to anyone who demonstrates ability to understand the forces involved and is willing to discuss them.

George,

spinning the wheel up to 60-65 rpm will accelerate the weights faster than the gravitational acceleration force.
releasing it to gravity will decelerate the wheel and decrease the radial (outward) force.

its a time thing,.. gravity is time dependent. the faster the wheel spins, the less "time" gravity has to act upon the weights.
Torque is not energy, to get from torque to energy you have to include distance and time.
in your case, distance is constant, therefore, you are only concerned with time.
Title: Re: Gravity powered machines...
Post by: memoryman on October 08, 2015, 04:31:48 AM
George, there are losses that you may not have considered, such as the losses that are caused by the sliding weights  hitting the ends and having kinetic energy absorbed in that collision.
Can't analyse the system without spending more time, but gravity is conservative and I don't see anything that changes that, so: no energy gain.
Title: Re: Gravity powered machines...
Post by: ARMCORTEX on October 08, 2015, 08:50:26 AM
Here are some new videos in the comments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNl5ZiCFve8


Any new pulse motor to be announced?
Title: Re: Gravity powered machines...
Post by: ARMCORTEX on October 09, 2015, 08:12:56 AM
George I had alot of those ideas, universal constant is that they always dissapoint. Mikhail Dimitriev was big on that concept, there was a forum dedicated to him infact, never came back to us, he had alot of those ideas.

Dont hear much of him now. Dont believe him anymore. Its always a nice simple and seemingly gonna work ( its gotta work, pray that it does) ... But... :(

O the other hand there is something else, to be discovered.

Heres is a nice video that should be saved and eyeballed, siya putra even commented on it.

Please post all similar videos that you have ever come across, I got like 10 more videos like these, wait... let me find them.

With your mechanical mind, try to wrap your head around this, why are these crazy people wasting their money with these idiotic looking devices?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rm1UK-5-AD4

and a few other big ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Z1S_1GlxA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hr67j71NSsQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Z1S_1GlxA


I am not sure this has to do with gravity, and I dont really care.

Whats could be in those connecting boxed that seem to shake? Any ideas? I am guessing an oil filled box with something.
Title: Re: Gravity powered machines...
Post by: ARMCORTEX on October 11, 2015, 11:26:55 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaJ_cbJ2JgI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLN_804tMRs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTgcK7qhsLM

Does anybody speak Pakistani language or Turkish language?