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Author Topic: Tinman's coil shorting circuit  (Read 50287 times)

Offline penno64

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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #75 on: November 12, 2015, 10:29:50 AM »

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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #76 on: November 12, 2015, 11:19:14 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK3JOlY0V8Y&feature=youtu.be&t=386

from 13:30

It is good to see some one is finally on to it.
Listen from 20:00 when he adds the loads-one a short,and one a lamp.
Sound familiar ?.

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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #77 on: November 12, 2015, 01:57:09 PM »

Its obvious that Murray has this down, 45 years of playing around this concept tends to have that effect on the researcher.  This concept, while similar to what you have shared, is not the same, it would be wise of you to point that out.  In all honesty, its not a good idea to suggest that the technologies have anything in common, if for no other reason, the ideas which motivated the building of your device and that which inspired his device are totally different.


The sound you referred to doesn't ring any bells for me.  From your comment it seems as if you are suggesting we hear something akin to acceleration which one experiences in replications of your RT, this is not the case in the Murray demonstration.  This more than likely because his machine is operated at a fixed speed, by an external machine.  Add to this the fact that we are oblivious to the inner layout and relations between the various components and systems inside his machine.  A comparison between his setup and yours is moot.


What we can gather from his presentation is that he knows exactly what hes doing, we cannot make such a claim......that being said.......shouldn't folks be following his lead?




Regards

Incorrect.
He has a prime mover and generator separate,where as mine is one complete unit.
I know exactly how his generator works as i have the blue prints for it,and when you add the motor in the mix,you basically have the RT. He is missing one vital action that relies on one vital piece-but other than that,they !are! the same in that they work on the same principle.

You have done this on a number of occasions Erfinder,thinking you know how things work. But you cant know how the RT work's,as i have not disclosed the full workings of it. So please refrain from insisting you know how my stuff work's-when you do not.

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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #77 on: November 12, 2015, 01:57:09 PM »
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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #78 on: November 12, 2015, 03:41:12 PM »
It is good to see some one is finally on to it.
Listen from 20:00 when he adds the loads-one a short,and one a lamp.
Sound familiar ?.

Yes, it makes the same sound as your V3 RT when you activate the switch to power the load.

Could you point out where I could get a blueprint of his design

Thanks

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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #79 on: November 13, 2015, 12:27:29 AM »
Seriously........



        1.  That the Rotary Transformer exists.....(the real one, with all the bells and whistles....WORKING and driving a load....)
        2.  An exact replication of Jim Murray's machine the "Transforming Generator" (a worthy name, not just catchy title), with your modifications.  (you have a history of modifying devices you don't understand...... this is not a strength.....)




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Uh hello?  I said "his machine is operated at a fixed speed by an external machine."  That's what I said, what my statement means, since you obviously didn't comprehend what I stated,  is that he's using an external prime mover!

Yes,and i was pointing out that even so,they are close to the same,where i have merged the two.
I comprehended what you said quite clearly,but i was making sure that others here understand that there is not much difference as you tried to make claim to.

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There is no doubt in my mind that you "think" you know "exactly" how his generator works.  You have a history yourself of "thinking" you know how other researchers works function.


No-i know how it work's. As i stated,i have the blue print's.
What history might that be?-please post example.

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In my opinion there is more than that, but this isn't about my opinion its about what you "think" you know about another individuals research.

I get the feeling that you cant put 2 and 2 together some times EF.

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The sad truth is that you refuse to accept that the man has no interest in doing what you "think" you are doing, and or are going to do. 
So you just hold on to that vital piece, or share it with him, as you saw in the video, he desperately needs that which you "think" you have.

What i think i have is what i have. I also have no interest in what others do not have.

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You haven't demonstrated that you know how things work either...What you have demonstrated is that your thinking can be influenced by those who speak with confidence and authority, this we have all witnessed several times.....after they are finished with you, what you think you know morphs into what you thought you knew.....I think...lol..... this is a strength....not a weakness...just saying


I bow to no man,and i am not influenced by anyone. I stand by what i say and think,and you only have to read threads like the partnered output coils thread to see that.
Im not sure what you have been reading,but you really do have it all screw'd up EF.

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Guilty as charged.....I think I know how things work......AND?

That is the difference between !think! and know. As you have yet to show anything out of the ordinary,then it is clear that your thinking is wrong.

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I digress, this isn't about the know nots '(I'm in that group), it's about you and your superior knowledge, your deep understanding of Nature and her forces.  An understanding which inspired the creation of a super machine dubbed the Rotary Transformer.  I will be the first to admit, it's got a real catchy title......however, since the only thing being presented is a catchy title, I call into question the actual existence of an actual device.  So no it's not that I think I know how your machine works, I don't care how you "think" your machine works, nor do I care how you think I think your machine works.  What I think is the claimed device, not the one being replicated, doesn't exist.

Yes-and motor vehicles are just an elusion too.

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The only real response to this is to demonstrate:

Guess you missed the boat on that one EF.

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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #79 on: November 13, 2015, 12:27:29 AM »
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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #80 on: November 13, 2015, 09:19:06 AM »
Erfinder & Tinman you have BOTH taught me a lot. Both your builds are awesome and I strongly suggest you collaborate sometime. A rising tide floats all boats.

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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #81 on: November 13, 2015, 10:35:06 AM »
yawn......(stretching.....)

Sorry,i got that wrong.
You must have been sleeping :D--sorry for waking you.

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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #82 on: November 13, 2015, 10:48:37 AM »
Erfinder & Tinman you have BOTH taught me a lot. Both your builds are awesome and I strongly suggest you collaborate sometime. A rising tide floats all boats.

Not a steel one with holes in the bottom of the hull.
It just pi**es me of no end when some one decides they know how my machines work,and insist that i have it wrong. I know how it work's,and spent years working on it to put all the pieces together.
All the answers are in my video's from the beginings of the LAG ,right up to the RT's final version.

There was also some one else looking into the workings of the RT(that only 3 people knew about),and as far as he got,i had everything correct except one small thing in regards to the circuit--the reason the mosfets kept blowing. This some one is some one no one on any forum would have stood against.

Im sorry Jim,but i will not have some self acclaimed man of wisdom tell me what i know and what i dont.


Brad.

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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #83 on: November 13, 2015, 11:04:11 PM »
Does the time it takes to build charge in a coil, the quicker the better?
I think so, charging faster, more discharge for the same time frame.
And when does lenz kick in , at max flux density, or somewhere in-between?
Just trying to use the lenz for driving the rotation.
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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #84 on: November 14, 2015, 02:09:08 AM »
Is this an attempt at poking fun?  You trying to make a joke?  No....this is you trying to say that my work is hole ridden steel....cute.....real cute.

....You might want to go over the posts.  I'm not suggesting that you have anything wrong.  I told you I don't care.  Your years of hands on are of no real interest to me either.  I appreciate your effort, and am only interested in your connection with the material.  What I want and expect from you is not what your other peers want and expect from you.  I am not nor have I bashed your effort, what I question I have already made clear.

Your peers not your best buds, your peers, not to be confused with fans, your peers are not finding those "answers" in your videos from the beginnings of the LAG up to the RT's finial version.  If the "answers" were in those videos, the forum would be likened to a stirred up ant nest.....you hear what we hear when we enter the thread.....yes....that's the sound of one hand clapping....accompanied by the occasional cricket chirp.

You are awesome, you really think that you saying what you will not have will stop me from expressing my opinion, that stuff you are drinking or smoking is potent.  What's up with the labels?  "Self proclaimed (acclaimed is not the proper term...just saying....) man of wisdom" coming from?  Have I labeled you?  I told you I am not interested in what you think you know and what you don't.  Secret alliances, only the select among you can know what I think I know .....bullshit.....No one would question my master...?  Name drop, damnit....grow a pair, maybe we have the same guru.  The whole "refer to my videos trip is so old.....its 2015, you're better than this.

We can go back and forth all day, but this thread is about "Tinman's coil shorting", I recommend you ignore me and post on the topic which was made in honor of you......




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Brad, can I call you Brad, its better to be pissed off than pissed on, well....guess that's relative huh....if getting pissed on is your thing or not

You are a sick man,and i wish to have nothing more to do with you.
Some told me some time back that you are a couple of cows short in the top paddock,and your words speak volumes.

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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #85 on: November 14, 2015, 02:41:48 AM »
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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #86 on: November 14, 2015, 08:39:24 AM »
Getting closer, I think I just need to make the shorting circuit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRoL9-j0k8U

Luc

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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #87 on: November 14, 2015, 05:23:42 PM »
@Erfinder,

These two videos may help answer your question:

Coil shorting by Woopyjump:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5BxwkvCaIg

Shorted coil speed up by Doug Konzen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaaEdGPO7C8

Shorting Konzen's magnet backed ferrite core coil at TDC would generate Woopyjump's voltage spike and propel the rotor with additional force from a GAP effect!

Here're the two effects (loosely) combined by kEhYo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UlwdLXO3AI
« Last Edit: November 14, 2015, 08:36:43 PM by synchro1 »

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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #88 on: November 14, 2015, 10:56:08 PM »
kEhYo's ferrite core backing magnets are in attraction to the rotor magnet. At TDC the coil energizes to mask the attraction and allow the rotor magnet to pass. While the coil is energized, I believe kEyHo begins to interrupt the power with a long series of mini shorts, sending the power spikes back to a storage capacitor. The DMM in the video appears to read the voltage on this shorted coil capacitor.

This is not exactly what I described above, but interesting nevertheless. Use your imagination and you may find a key to help understand how Tinman has perhaps achieved Overunity.

I sent kEhYo77 a personal message and asked him to look at my comments to make sure I'm not misrepresenting his work.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2015, 03:20:32 AM by synchro1 »

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Re: Tinman's coil shorting circuit
« Reply #89 on: November 15, 2015, 07:25:05 AM »
Hi synchro1

In my shorting video

A Hall sensor triggers a MOSFET transistor to activate the driving coil in attraction mode to the rotor. The stack of magnets behind the driving coil is in opposition to the rotor.
When the driving transistor shuts off, the magnetic field from this stack pushes the rotor away from the TDC. When there is no power applied the rotor is affected by cogging only a little as the stack of magnets is pushing away while the iron/magnetite cores of the generator coils pull to the TDC. The rotor consists of 6 neodymium permanent magnets (N50), of which all the poles are oriented with their NNNNNN outwards.


Two generator coils that are connected in parallel are being shorted constantly many times per cycle using two MOSFET transistors connected source to source with bypassing diodes. This pair is being driven from a small variable frequency/pulse width square wave signal generator/MOSFET driver.
Two neon bulbs are connected across the generator coil pair being shorted and the meter reads rectified pulse DC (no cap).


There are moments when the neons put out quite a light show of purple flashes there and that is where the magic happens, at TDC.

 

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