Another owner of the ELFE flashlight reported on the FB group today:

Arman Gevorkyan: "My elfe first day began working with 20000 lux and after 4 hours droped to 1000 lux. Next day it began with 15000 lux, however after 10 minutes it dropped the light intensity to 1000 lux. I have turned off it to rest for few days and will see if it recovers energy level."

So far it corresponds pretty closely to the results of Skywatcher in the first two days, although Arman used a longer 1st run. AGDEX claims full power after 3-4 hours of operations each day. No recharging to the full power could be observed in these two cases (Skywatcher and Arman). The light increase in luminosity after the rest is a known phenomena, and does not indicate any recharging. Let's wait  for the next data from testers.

PS: Arman used a lightmeter application in his smartphone, and measured the light from the distance of 15cm.

Another edit: this is the video after Arman's second run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoWrpOmDl5Q

Many thanks for sharing the data, Skywatcher, despite that the results are certainly disappointing for you. Since, another ELFE flashlight owner confirmed your first test with a luxmeter too, the evidence starts to take a very firm shape, and there is not a lot of chance of some miracle, but let's wait for more data to be absolutely sure.

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Before doing so, we have to be absolutely sure, there is no self-recharging. The current data does not let a lot of hope, but we should still respect the principle of the benefit of doubt - we need results from a longer test, and from multiple owners.

You are absolutely right. I will continue my measurements for at least one week, to be absolutely sure.

I also have email contact with Mr. Muzanov. At least they are answering customer complaints, and try to find solutions. I complained about the contact problems caused by loose batteries. The first answer was that i could return it but i found out that sending it back from Germany to Australia or China would cost almost half of the amount i paid for it so this would not be an option for me. Then he offered me to send it to someone in Germany who will travel to their business meeting next week, or i could also fix it myself if  i would know how to do it. So i fixed it myself, which was very easy because on my ELFE the front ring can be unscrewed. I have made a small disc out of crumbled aluminium foil and fixed it with some tape on the negative pole of the battery next to the switch. The tape also isolates it to the tube, so that the switch will not be bridged. I also sent my measurements to Mr. Muzanov together with my doubts if there is any rechargement at all.

Forgetting about the non-recharging issue for the moment...isn't it sad that you have to repair a brand new $100 flashlight with some aluminum foil?  Just about all of the companies I have done business with over the years would have replaced that unit right away, including free shipping for the new unit and the return of the old one.  This right here tells me this is not a company I would ever want to do business with...even IF their lights actually did recharge, which I highly doubt.

Bill

PS  Nice job on the testing.

Just to visualize the data from the three days of Skywatcher's test #2, I've plotted them into a graph, too. Please note that the time scale does not include the resting times, which would take too much place. And the illumination Y axes does not scale to the maximum of 29000 lux at fully charged batteries, but rather just to the maximum reached during the 3 days of "recharging" - roughly 6% of the max.

The average brightness during the test was only at around 4% of the maximum, drawing so only negligible currents and energy from the battery during 90 seconds, while resting 24 hours between the burns (4½ minutes during 67 hours). The small bounces of the intensity at the start of every burn are perfectly consistent with the Battery Relaxation Phenomena. Already at the 3rd day, it is clear that the rebounce is smaller than the day before, hence no self-recharging was observed.

Very nice graph.  I guess this is clear proof that Skywatcher lives in a dead zone right? (Grin)  I mean, what else are they going to say?

Bill

Just for another test idea how about putting it right next to or in front of a microwave oven the next time you need to cook something for several minutes.  Despite the essential Faraday design of most MOV's they still put out a huge amount of EMF (I've measured it with an EMF meter).   See if that does anything for recharging.   You might also set it next to a house breaker panel which tends to have 60 cycle EMF for some tests.  If none of those make any difference I think I'd be calling foul on this and pursuing a refund unless you just like the light as is.   

Stuart Campbell reproduces the ELFE effect with $10 flashlight.
In his attempt to refute the skeptics and prove the the battery rebound or relaxation effect is bullshit, and that Flashlights can not run for long he as inadvertently shown what a scam the ELFE really is.
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Summary (Updated)
[/color]Right now, its a good brightness and can be used as a torch.
At 6pm (30 hr mark) last night I could only describe the brightness as dull. It looked like the torch wouldn't keep going much longer. At the 35 hour mark it suddenly lurched brighter. During the night it got even brighter.
But tonight, 24 hours later, it is a different story, its going very well and not looking at all dull.[/size]

I believe this torch is going to easily see out 72 hours. Its already beating Ray's Elfe running time (49 hours) by a country mile. Yet the AAA's are one third the storage (800mAh as opposed to 2,600mAh) size of the Elfe. 12 LED's versus the Elfe's 1 LED.
By now it should have stopped running. Instead, during the night it got brighter. Right now it feels like it is not going to run out of power at all. The dullness has gone, the brightness is back.

WHY ? is the big question. There is no way this torch should be still running, let alone getting brighter. But it has, and has also increased its power intensity. Just what on earth is going on ??

I think (think, being the operative word) I have worked a few theories out as to just what is going on.
But it would be so wonderful to tell you without being attacked for daring to mention what it may be.
They are theories, and possibly outside the beloved laws of physics, you know the holy physics religion, that thou shell not dare think outside ?
It would be oh so nice to have thoughts without being attacked for them..

There are several factors which I believe are making the difference.
One I found quite accidentally. It involves the position the torch is in. Position X makes a big difference. I believe finding position X is why the torch went from dull to bright. It has remained bright ever since.
The Elfe testers are plonking their torch down just anywhere to charge. I no longer am. Have I found something important ? Maybe ! I think I have, but only time will tell.[/size]

I am starting to believe there is some reality about this Elfe torch. But also in the sense it doesn't have to be an Elfe torch at all. But it does have to be a certain sort of torch with certain features. Without them it won't work. Therein lies the secret ingredient/s. This is an everyday thing, nothing special about it at all, but if you know what it is, it makes all the difference as to whether this works or not.

But before I put my neck on the line, I am going to wait until it at least passes the 72 hour mark (or even further). Then I will have a lot more surety of this experiment and my thinking.[/size]
But if this torch reaches 72 hours then something very strange is going on. It ain't battery's running it anymore, but something else.[/size]

I know the secret of the recharging of Campbell's batteries:

In the night, when he sleeps, a UFO is landing on the roof of his house, pathoskeptics accompanied by squadrons of ETs, and CIA and KGB agents break into his hi-tech laboratory, and secretly recharge his batteries. It is as simple as that.

Looks like "a nearly dead ordinary battery."

Where does that lead you back to?  Science understands the laws of induction.  People play with the laws of induction on this forum every day.  We can make measurements of the Earth's nearly static and unchanging magnetic field.  Put those two facts together and even if the flashlight had a giant 12-foot-diameter loop attached to it it still would be impossible for the flashlight to charge from the Earth's magnetic field.  Same logic applies to the fantasy of the Schumann resonance.

This is like when you get a call at home from some boiler room in India and they say it's Microsoft calling and they have detected that your computer has viruses.  My response to the poor workie is to say, "You are working for a criminal."  I repeat that as many times is required for them to hang up.