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Author Topic: World's first real Free Energy Flashlight - no shaking - no batteries! No Solar  (Read 117496 times)

Offline gravityblock

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gravock''Do you use your flashlight for 12 hours a day?''

No but I'd still rather shake the thing,its more fun and more certain :)


''Nobody says you can't acquire additional flashlights
over time if you need more than a few hours of light
per day, everyday of the week.''

Most pockets say..

Like most things, the price will fall after it's been on the market for awhile.

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Gravock''Like most things, the price will fall after it's been on
the market for awhile.''

Well one thing is for certain,as time goes by we'll get an idea for the first time in history how much people prefer to not-shake than shake their items

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I suppose they could sell some flashlights if they actually answered their Phone ??

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Ummm...Jim did not make this post, you did.  This is what I was responding to.  Do you not remember making this post?

Bill

No, but Jim did make this comment, "When tinman, MH, Tk & Bill are all on the same songsheet I'd say this one is dead". 

By me saying that everything is dead according to their songsheet was in reference to Jim saying you were on the same songsheet as TK and milehigh.  We all know what TK and milehigh's songsheet is, so don't blame or aim at me for Jim throwing you into the same group as TK and milehigh.  I'm not even sure if Tinman is against the ELFE flashlight or not.  Tinman appeared to have been more interested in promoting his own works of re-discovering the wheel.


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I sound like a commissioned salesperson because I'm trying to keep things real by putting things back into it's proper context by not allowing this product and the company itself to be unfairly misrepresented without having a good cause or showing a good logical reason?  Even e2matrix has said he has seen a number of false statements and info that isn't correct.  I could say you and others sound like a competitor and trying to paint the company's product in a bad light in order to run the company out-of-business.  We'll have to wait til the product becomes available around Nov. 28.  You should be at ease that there not taking peoples money  before they have a physical item to ship, or not taking peoples money and shipping them a fake product.  It takes time to acquire a manufacture and to set-up an assembly line.

Gravock

Ah, OK...good.  This is the first I was aware of the Nov.28th date.  Thank you for that.  Yes, I agree it is good they are not taking money prior to the product actually being available.  So, I suppose we will have to wait and see then?

In all fairness, I think we (the collective "we" that you speak of) are just responding to the fantastic claims made by the company for this product.  You have been around here long enough to know that something like this has never been done before...right?  Does not mean it can't be done but, well, anyway, I hope you see where I am coming from on this thing.

So, maybe by Christmas we can put together a crowdfunding effort to get one to test.  If indeed it does what they claim, I will take my hat off to them and sing their praises everywhere that I can.  I have built many lighting devices over the years so I can say that I know what a giant leap forward this would be if it is true.

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I suppose they could sell some flashlights if they actually answered their Phone ??

Are you calling during the right business hours?  They could be screening calls by country also.  They would do this if they don't have a representative that speaks the predominant language of the incoming caller.  I'm sure this company doesn't yet have a call center to efficiently take calls from around the world at this time.  The nice thing about the internet is it allows these short-comings to be hidden and allows a company to reach a larger audience and a larger consumer base.  Most things, has its advantages and dis-advantages.  I find it hard to believe they would put a lot of time and money into their marketing campaign, websites, videos, etc and not be able to offer a product in which they're promoting.  If the company won't have the ELFE available til the end of November, then it may be pre-mature on our part at this time in trying to acquire a flashlight. Also, until they have drop-shippers around the world for this product, then I wouldn't hold my breath in having one shipped directly to you due to the high shipping costs that would be expected.

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Listen mate I offered you an opinion about the local market and why I found this odd. You respond with insults and accusations of racism and misrepsent what I said.
I suggest you google capital gains tax in Australia
the 70s white male comment was in reference to prospectus marketing, you made it racist.


You just lost ally.

No, it is you who is lost and I never misrepresented what you said, as you falsely assert.  "70+" is age discrimination.  "White" is racial discrimination.  "Male" is sexual discrimination.  "Aussie" is foreign discrimination.  You used 4 consecutive racial and discriminatory words in the same sentence to say why you find it odd for them to setup in Australia.  If this racism, discrimination, and Aussie exceptionalism in which you speak of isn't representative of you, then you're throwing your countrymen under the bus and painting a bad picture of them.  And, don't even try to throw it off onto prospective marketing either, LOL.  Like I said, Australia isn't the only country for investors.  You should be ashamed of yourself!

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No, it is you who is lost and I never misrepresented what you said, as you falsely assert.  "70+" is age discrimination.  "White" is racial discrimination.  "Male" is sexual discrimination.  "Aussie" is foreign discrimination.  You used 4 consecutive racial and discriminatory words in the same sentence to say why you find it odd for them to setup in Australia.  If this racism, discrimination, and Aussie exceptionalism in which you speak of isn't representative of you, then you're throwing your countrymen under the bus and painting a bad picture of them.  And, don't even try to throw it off onto prospective marketing either, LOL.  Like I said, Australia isn't the only country for investors.  You should be ashamed of yourself!

Gravock

JimBoot,

Don't take this so hard.  Your way of thinking has been deeply indoctrinated into our thought process throughout all of society, and in every country.  I can't find you at fault for saying what you said, because what you said was done so in innocence (at least I hope, and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt for now).  However, I will find you at fault by your continual denial of the truth behind what you said, since it has now been clearly pointed out to you many times.  I still have respect for you, but it's fading fast because you are being willfully ignorant in what you have said.  I'm not looking for an apology.  I'm only looking for fairness based on sound reasoning.  Is that too much to ask?

Gravock


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I suppose they could sell some flashlights if they actually answered their Phone ??

You must be calling from a "dead zone"....   :P

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Are you calling during the right business hours?  They could be screening calls by country also.  They would do this if they don't have a representative that speaks the predominant language of the incoming caller.  I'm sure this company doesn't yet have a call center to efficiently take calls from around the world at this time.  The nice thing about the internet is it allows these short-comings to be hidden and allows a company to reach a larger audience and a larger consumer base.  Most things, has its advantages and dis-advantages.  I find it hard to believe they would put a lot of time and money into their marketing campaign, websites, videos, etc and not be able to offer a product in which they're promoting.  If the company won't have the ELFE available til the end of November, then it may be pre-mature on our part at this time in trying to acquire a flashlight. Also, until they have drop-shippers around the world for this product, then I wouldn't hold my breath in having one shipped directly to you due to the high shipping costs that would be expected.

Gravock

I have news for you: Both Australia and the USA speak versions of English. Sometimes it's hard for one to understand the other, I'll grant you that much. But it's not going to be the reason Chet's calls didn't get answered.

You seem to be missing what they are _really_ selling though. They are selling _shares_, they are seeking large investors, and things like this magic flashlight are just the bait.

You are right about one thing, though: Don't hold your breath, waiting for a flashlight that works as claimed.

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I have news for you: Both Australia and the USA speak versions of English. Sometimes it's hard for one to understand the other, I'll grant you that much. But it's not going to be the reason Chet's calls didn't get answered.

You seem to be missing what they are _really_ selling though. They are selling _shares_, they are seeking large investors, and things like this magic flashlight are just the bait.

You are right about one thing, though: Don't hold your breath, waiting for a flashlight that works as claimed.

They may be in Australia, but they're a Russian based company.  Are their videos presented in English?  No, they are not.  Some of their videos may have closed captioning over-layed in English, but this was done after the production of the video.  So, what makes you think they're going to setup a call center to answer calls in English and other languages prior to them accepting any orders?  This would be a waste of money and resources to do so at this time, which I think wouldn't go over well with their investors.

No, I didn't miss the fact that they were selling shares.  In case you didn't notice, I'm the one who first brought this up.  The majority of companies of this type do seek large investors, so according to your logic, the majority of companies are fake, LOL.   If you do your research, you'll find out that you currently can't buy any shares as of July 2015.  IMO, this adds to the legitimacy of the company, because they could have setup a fake company to accept investments for fake shares while continuing to do so at this current time.  Also, if Adgex intentionally bamboozled and hoodwinked Aatlant with a fake product line in order to obtain money from large investors, then why didn't they run for the hills on July 2015 and went underground?  They haven't done this, they're still pushing forward with their product line two months later.  Once again, this adds to the legitimacy of the company and it's product line.  In addition to this, large investors normally require access to sensitive information and will receive demonstrations and technical details that aren't made available to the general public.  If you want money from large investors, then you must impress them with more than marketing hype.  This once again adds to the legitimacy of the company and its product line since they have made it this far.

I said, "don't hold your breath until there are drop-shippers around the world".  You conveniently left out "until there are drop-shippers around the world".  This is common sense, and i wasn't the first to say this.  I only expanded on what was previously said.  Now, I have yet to hear a good sound argument that shows this company doesn't have what they claim to have.  All I have heard is false statements, misrepresentations, along with irrational reasoning.  Until I hear otherwise, then I won't participate in misrepresenting the company or the product line itself.

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JimBoot,

Don't take this so hard.  Your way of thinking has been deeply indoctrinated into our thought process throughout all of society, and in every country.  I can't find you at fault for saying what you said, because what you said was done so in innocence (at least I hope, and I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt for now).  However, I will find you at fault by your continual denial of the truth behind what you said, since it has now been clearly pointed out to you many times.  I still have respect for you, but it's fading fast because you are being willfully ignorant in what you have said.  I'm not looking for an apology.  I'm only looking for fairness based on sound reasoning.  Is that too much to ask?

Gravock


If you choose to remain ignorant that is your prerogative.

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 I wouldn't rush and buy anything Russian!
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If you choose to remain ignorant that is your prerogative.


So, you're saying I'm ignorant to believe you used 4 consecutive words that were clearly discriminatory
and racist based?  Not one, not two, not three, but four consecutive words, LOL.  I now know without a
doubt that those 4 consecutive discriminatory and racist words used by you wasn't the result of it being
innocently done as I wanted to believe.  Since this is the case, then you're the queen of denial in being
willfully ignorant and I have no further respect left for you.  You represent the sickness that has taken
over this world.  What a way to be, LOL!

Gravock

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 I wouldn't rush and buy anything Russian!
            I.

wow, those are dangerous tires.

i go to the slovakian stores where i can take my time.

 

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