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Author Topic: World's first real Free Energy Flashlight - no shaking - no batteries! No Solar  (Read 128134 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Subharmonics?   Or very fine gauge very high wind coils?    Why does the mention of Neutrino's make it suspicious?  I've been hearing about Neutrino's for a couple decades.    http://www.ps.uci.edu/~superk/neutrino.html   Do we really understand Neutrino's yet?

Subharmonics, meaning exactly what? Lower frequency = longer wavelength.
High wind coils? Perhaps, but did you read up on the Schumann resonance and how it is commonly detected? You'd have some trouble stuffing such things into a handheld flashlight case.
Neutrinos? No, we don't really understand Neutrinos yet, but we do understand that they don't interact much with common matter and even huge detectors only see a tiny fraction of the total flux from the sun and other sources, and there isn't any way to use them as a power source.

That's why this thing, if true, would be a very significant scientific breakthrough, and such things have antecedents in the form of real research, published papers, teams of scientists, academic and industrial and military laboratories, etc.

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Subharmonics, meaning exactly what? Lower frequency = longer wavelength.
High wind coils? Perhaps, but did you read up on the Schumann resonance and how it is commonly detected? You'd have some trouble stuffing such things into a handheld flashlight case.
Neutrinos? No, we don't really understand Neutrinos yet, but we do understand that they don't interact much with common matter and even huge detectors only see a tiny fraction of the total flux from the sun and other sources, and there isn't any way to use them as a power source.

That's why this thing, if true, would be a very significant scientific breakthrough, and such things have antecedents in the form of real research, published papers, teams of scientists, academic and industrial and military laboratories, etc.
Harmonics might have been more appropriate depending on which side of it you are looking from - the receiving coil or the transmitting device.    You should be able to wind about 299 feet (298.851 feet to be exact - a 1/4 wave antenna coil) of some fine gauge wire into a coil made for 783 KHz and it would possibly pick up harmonics of the the Schumann resonance at 7.83 Hz. 
As far as antecedents and Neutrino's .... well not everyone follows the rules - especially Aussie's and Russians  :D    I rather like that about them.   

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I don't want to open a can of worms on this but I'm sure we all know about Steven Mark's TPU.   It just occurred to me that regardless of whether it was working from his nearby HV power lines or something else maybe Adgex has rediscovered something like a TPU effect. 

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This one smells a little funny to me

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For certain (obsolete) values of "typical/average".
If you were building a "free energy" flashlight, would you select an inefficient LED? If you were paying attention, you might have read the LED data sheet I attached to my post. Those LEDs cost about 65 cents US singly and a lot less when ordered in quantity.

Adgex developed and successfully tested a line of autonomous household lamps ranging from 1 to 5 watts.  The 2 watts I used in my example almost falls in the middle of where they tested.  However, their flashlight can power a 5 watt light source from thin air. 

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This one smells a little funny to me

Why, because they're in Austrailia?  My brother has his own company producing chrome plated parts for the auto industry.  He has a factory in Taiwan.  Why Taiwan?  It just so happens he got really lucky and got with the right person in Taiwan.  He hasn't been able to duplicate what he did in Taiwan in other countries.

Why did ADGEX formed and is in Australia?

1. The financial stability and the world's best corporate law;
2. The program of investment attraction and protection of foreign investors;
3. Protection of intellectual property (IP) and its capitalization;
4. Minerals - long-term projects;
5. access to the growing markets of India, China, Australia and Africa;
6. products and engineering ADGEX have a unique competitive position and appeal to target markets.

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Please read the specification of this strange flash light:

http://trade.adgex.com.au/elfe (click on "Specifications" in the horizontal menu)

- 3 hours per day
- after a 12 hour use it takes 7 to 14 days to recharge
- about 100 lm light output

My speculations (I can only speculate because the web site and the videos contain only sales talk):

- Good LEDs can have 40 lm per Watt of light output (continuous current supply). About 100 lm would then need 2,5 Watt. But one can drive the LEDs intermittently (e.g. like a Joule Thief or with a square wave current and a duty cycle of 10%) and the power demand goes down to a tenth i.e. 250 mW or even lower, down to 50 mW (short spikes are used to drive the LEDs). I could build build pretty bright Joule Thief driven contraptions which worked nicely with 10 mW and rather dimly with 5 mW. The LEDs could well be 3 Watt LEDs, but that would only be the maximum power one can continuously feed to them, not necessarily the power actually fed into the LEDs on average.

- The size of the flash light suggests a "chemical process". I suspect it is a pretty good chemical battery based on a rather slow chemical reaction which needs 7 to 14 days to completely recharge a super cap inside the flash light. It might well be some sort of "crystal battery" while the LEDs are driven with very narrow spikes at a low frequency e.g. 30 spikes per second.

- The way the flash light is presented does not inspire trust, it sounds and looks like a marketing scam. A serious scientist would present a credible chemical, electrical or physical process. They had enough time to file a patent and could now present the technology in a straight forward way. Third party testing is a must and if it is avoided, do not believe in what is offered. And most importantly, they can not even give you one yet. They promise something for December. The videos and the web site are terrible and avoid any credible technical information.

- If they ever actually sell the flash light the hype will fade away quickly once the first credible tests are published by the unlucky customers who handed over $99.--

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Please read the specification of this strange flash light:

http://trade.adgex.com.au/elfe (click on "Specifications" in the horizontal menu)

- 3 hours per day
- after a 12 hour use it takes 7 to 14 days to recharge
- about 100 lm light output

The rate of recharge varies depending on a range of geographic and environmental factors.  In one of their videos, it says if the flashlight is placed in a "dead zone", then it will take 7 -14 days to recharge.  However, if the environmental factors are right, then it can fully recharge in 2 - 4 hours.

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The rate of recharge varies depending on a range of geographic and environmental factors.  In one of their videos, it says if the flashlight is placed in a "dead zone", then it will take 7 -14 days to recharge.  However, if the environmental factors are right, then it can full recharge in 2 - 4 hours.

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If that promise gives you confidence, you should buy on of these wonder flash lights. Put your money on what you believe. That is the goal of a sales pitch and you look like the perfect target.

Greetings, Conrad

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- The way the flash light is presented does not inspire trust, it sounds and looks like a marketing scam. A serious scientist would present a credible chemical, electrical or physical process. They had enough time to file a patent and could now present the technology in a straight forward way. Third party testing is a must and if it is avoided, do not believe in what is offered. And most importantly, they can not even give you one yet. They promise something for December. The videos and the web site are terrible and avoid any credible technical information.

They did present a physical process, and that is energy harvesting.  If Adgex is a scam as you claim, then why aren't Adgex's future products, which are based on the same technology as the ELFE flashlight, being sold at the moment.  Their upcoming "Power Bank" would draw more buyers and higher profits than the flashlight.  However, the "Power Bank" isn't being sold at this time.  So, it doesn't look like a marketing scam to me when you look at the full picture.

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If that promise gives you confidence, you should buy on of these wonder flash lights. Put your money on what you believe. That is the goal of a sales pitch and you look like the perfect target.

Greetings, Conrad

That's a poor argument!  I have no money to put on anything.  I'm unemployed at the moment due to my employer giving me a bad payroll check that I've been trying to cash since March!  I don't even have a vehicle because somebody totaled my car.  Since you're Mr. deep pockets, then you should put your money on what you believe and prove your claims of it being a scam.

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Why, because they're in Austrailia?  My brother has his own company producing chrome plated parts for the auto industry.  He has a factory in Taiwan.  Why Taiwan?  It just so happens he got really lucky and got with the right person in Taiwan.  He hasn't been able to duplicate what he did in Taiwan in other countries.

Why did ADGEX formed and is in Australia?

1. The financial stability and the world's best corporate law;
2. The program of investment attraction and protection of foreign investors;
3. Protection of intellectual property (IP) and its capitalization;
4. Minerals - long-term projects;
5. access to the growing markets of India, China, Australia and Africa;
6. products and engineering ADGEX have a unique competitive position and appeal to target markets.

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Lol no. Because it appears they are a year behind in their back doors listing and the investor presentation from a year ago would not have inspired confidence in the local market. Just an opinion.




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Lol no. Because it appears they are a year behind in their back doors listing and the investor presentation from a year ago would not have inspired confidence in the local market. Just an opinion.

A back door listing, sometimes referred to as a reverse takeover, reverse merger, or reverse IPO, occurs when a privately-held company that may not qualify for the public offering process purchases a publicly-traded company.  Why does a company have to be publicly traded in order for it to be legitimate and for the local market to have confidence in it? 

Actually, up til a few months ago, they had a contract with Aatlant where you could purchase shares through them.  Aatlant invested 1,000,000 Australian dollars into Adgex.  You can even see the Aatlant logo in some of Adgex's videos.  However, in July 2015, they weren't able to reach an agreement to renew their contract.  It appears they're still in negotiations at the moment.  This is just normal business.  If Adgex is a scam, then why didn't they set up a fake investment company so people could buy fake shares?  Like I said, when you look at the whole picture, then it's hard to come to the conclusion that the company and it's products are a scam.

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A back door listing, sometimes referred to as a reverse takeover, reverse merger, or reverse IPO, occurs when a privately-held company that may not qualify for the public offering process purchases a publicly-traded company.  Why does a company have to be publicly traded in order for it to be legitimate and for the local market to have confidence in it? 

Actually, up til a few months ago, they had a contract with Aatlant where you could purchase shares through them.  Aatlant invested 1,000,000 Australian dollars into Adgex.  You can even see the Aatlant logo in some of Adgex's videos.  However, in July 2015, they weren't able to reach an agreement to renew their contract.  It appears they're still in negotiations at the moment.  This is just normal business.  If Adgex is a scam, then why didn't they set up a fake investment company so people could buy fake shares?  Like I said, when you look at the whole picture, then it's hard to come to the conclusion that the company and it's products are a scam.

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I didn't say they were a scam, and having been a director of an Australian public company I am more than familiar with the process.

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I didn't say they were a scam, and having been a director of an Australian public company I am more than familiar with the process.

Then maybe you need to restate and clarify your position on Adgex.  You've made the comments that you "find it odd they would choose Australia to setup in" (why is that so odd to you, LOL?), "it's unusual there is no 70+ Aussie white male on their board" (only a 70+ white Aussie male can do the job right, LOL.  To say such a thing is racist in so many ways.  Besides, the board only meets a few times throughout the year.  Maybe 4 -6 times) , "unlikely to get institutional investors without a 70+ Aussie white male on their board" (why have an old school guy on the board that would more than likely be indoctrinated against the products and goals of this company, LOL?  Also, who says Australia is the only place for investors, LOL?), "this one smells a little funny to me" (it is you who smells more than a little funny to me, LOL), "appears they are a year behind in their back doors listing and the investor presentation from a year ago would not have inspired confidence in the local market" (which is once again total B.S. in more than one way, LOL).

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