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Author Topic: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]  (Read 109141 times)

Offline ramset

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http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20239-magnet-motor-revelation.html?

Seems intriguing ??

thanks for looking and commenting

Chet K
 

 
 
 

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2015, 03:42:10 PM »
I'm curious what this NDA is all about.

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2015, 04:44:15 PM »
I'm curious what this NDA is all about.

He's more than likely hiding behind the NDA, and using the NDA as an escape goat for not posting any design drawings, images or to reveal any other so-called "privileged construction details".  Smoke and mirrors!

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2015, 04:49:41 PM »
I'm curious what this NDA is all about.


Why?  What does it matter?... An NDA is just that: Non disclosure agreement.
Go to a juridical forum and discus it there.
Better, don't talk about it at all, those things do more harm then good. And we do not want to raise trouble for the poster.


The focus here should be on the design and replication.

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2015, 04:55:29 PM »
He's more than likely hiding behind the NDA, and using the NDA as an escape goat for not posting any design drawings, images or to reveal any other so-called "privileged construction details".  Smoke and mirrors!

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Sure, lets judge first and think later.




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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2015, 05:40:29 PM »

Sure, lets judge first and think later.

No, I thought first, then I made the appropriate decision to question the authenticity of the claim according to the possibility of him hiding behind a so-called NDA.  It is you who has not thought first, which opens yourself up to the possibility of being bamboozled and hoodwinked!

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #6 on: August 26, 2015, 05:51:27 PM »

Why?  What does it matter?... An NDA is just that: Non disclosure agreement.
Go to a juridical forum and discus it there.
Better, don't talk about it at all, those things do more harm then good. And we do not want to raise trouble for the poster.

The focus here should be on the design and replication.

The description he provided in the OP along with his subsequent postings in that thread would definitely be sufficient to be in violation of any NDA.  Thus, the NDA is B.S. along with his claim, a false claim in which he can't support with drawings, photos, videos, etc.

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Offline ramset

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #7 on: August 26, 2015, 06:19:05 PM »
Here we have an issue
I always try to give a man the benefit of the doubt whenever he is  "giving freely"

I never look a gift horse in the mouth.,.

Perhaps a discussion about content instead of context would be more appropriate here??

Respectfully
Chet K

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #8 on: August 26, 2015, 06:25:41 PM »
Here we have an issue
I always try to give a man the benefit of the doubt whenever he is  "giving freely"

I never look a gift horse in the mouth.,.

Perhaps a discussion about content instead of context would be more appropriate here??

Respectfully
Chet K

Or, should we say a discussion on the lack of content.  No design drawings, no construction details, no photos, no videos, no reference links, etc.  <----- How is this 'giving freely' and how is this 'content'?

Good luck with this!

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Offline ramset

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #9 on: August 26, 2015, 06:57:15 PM »
"good luck with this"

Yes that works too ....

  For those who are interested in this brutally simple presentation ?

Macks latest comment
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""For now, picture this. We have a 2 pole rotor and the attraction is balanced to the repulsion. You can rotate the rotor by hand and feel very little or no cogging. You stick a ramp at one side of the attracting stator magnet. As the attracted rotor magnet comes under the influence of the ramp it accelerates. As it accelerates toward the stator magnet, it also gains inertia. The stator magnet also attracts, but the stator magnets attraction is being neutralized by the repelling magnets at the opposite side of the motor. The rotor inertia carries the rotor magnet fully under and slightly past the attracting stator magnets center line. At this same instant, the rotor magnet at the opposite side, 180 degrees away has traveled slightly past the center line of the repelling stator magnet, which is now doing its job and preventing the attracted rotor magnet from being dragged back under its attracting stator magnet. The rotor is free wheeling at this point. Inertia continues the rotation until the rotor magnets come under the influence of the next set of ramps and the cycle repeats.

Mack """
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from here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20239-magnet-motor-revelation.html?


Chet K

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #10 on: August 26, 2015, 07:39:26 PM »
Hi Chet,

Thanks for the update. I whipped up a quick interpretation from MadMack's last post of using just two pairs of magnets. Could be wrong but may give a starting point.

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2015, 10:03:16 PM »
Hi Chet,

Thanks for the update. I whipped up a quick interpretation from MadMack's last post of using just two pairs of magnets. Could be wrong but may give a starting point.

Here's another variation.

Gravock

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2015, 10:03:29 PM »
Demand to see a working prototype! Of course there isn't one to see.
But anyone with experience in these matters can see that the descriptions don't describe anything that would actually work.

"But like an internal combustion engine, various things have to be precisely tuned for it to work."
This is a false analogy... because we have seen working examples of ICEs, we know the tuning parameters and they make sense. Not so for this "sincere gentleman's" magic magnet motor. There is no working prototype, no coherent theory of operation, and plenty of history of similar systems that don't work.

And before people start insulting me.... PROVE ME WRONG by showing a working prototype, even inside a black box with only the output shaft shown driving a load. Do that, then you can insult me all you like. I'll not be holding my breath though. 

What kind of NDA prevents that, but allows all these claims and detailed descriptions of the _idea_? None that I've ever seen, and I've seen and signed a few in my time.  NDA means "non-disclosure agreement". What part of "non-disclosure" is difficult to understand?

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2015, 12:11:48 AM »
Anyone who says they can't share schematics or drawings, and then proceeds to tell HOW to build something is someone who has a half assed idea and is too CHEAP to build it themselves. Of course that's MY opinion. It would be nice if this is for real, and there are some on the other forum who are attempting to replicate, but without clear instructions, there's not much chance they would be successful even if it were for real.  I guess we will just have to wait and see what comes of this, but I won't get too excited until things are made much more clear.

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2015, 12:16:43 AM »
Tinsel
If I were to write a sentence ...and the sentence were some part of an NDA ,my obligation to secrecy COULD be as small as the period at the end of the sentence.

you use too broad a brush and ass-u-me way too much[as it applies to the NDA comment].

For myself I am just paying attention ,with appreciation.

Mack is a Smart fellow with a level head and some really cool ideas.