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Author Topic: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]  (Read 98014 times)

Offline Lidmotor

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #285 on: May 23, 2016, 02:29:22 AM »
But---But  they are sooooo close.  It almost works.  Just needs a few minor adjustments.  Watch ---I'll just give it a little push and it runs  and  runs  and  runs.......then stops. :-\
 
Sometimes I hate the laws of nature.  Why can't we do what we want. :'(

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Offline Lakes

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #286 on: May 23, 2016, 08:23:31 AM »
Och Jim, ye canna break the laws of physics.

Look Scotty, just make it go faster ok? :)

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #287 on: May 23, 2016, 12:12:48 PM »
Of course there will never be a magnet motor...magnets can't do work  it would be heresy...
just like swimming [only a devil could conquer water in such a way]
or Flying.....
Or ..heaven forbid ... LENR

Tinsel your arrogance and assumptions will not hold the test of time.

and I mean that sincerely !



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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #287 on: May 23, 2016, 12:12:48 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #288 on: May 23, 2016, 12:46:50 PM »
Of course there will never be a magnet motor...magnets can't do work  it would be heresy...
just like swimming [only a devil could conquer water in such a way]
or Flying.....
Or ..heaven forbid ... LENR

Tinsel your arrogance and assumptions will not hold the test of time.

and I mean that sincerely !

1. Animals swim, proving that creatures can do it. There is no scientific principle that prevents swimming.
2. Animals fly, proving that creatures can do it. There is no scientific principle that prevents flight.
3. There is much _scientific_ research on LENR and the jury is still out on some of this research. Many scientific principles prevent _certain types_ of LENR and until demonstrated otherwise those principles are valid. Meanwhile outright frauds like Rossi continue to prey on the hopeful innocents.
4. My "arrogance and assumptions" as you call it have never been proven false yet.

I'm  not against properly conducted research, what I AM strongly against is fakers and false claimants like Mack, who has not got what he claimed, never had and never will, and who has bamboozled people into wasting time and money trying to build something that has absolutely no chance of working. And I am strongly against those who promote those false claimants simply because they seem "sincere" even though they haven't provided a single lick of proof at all to anyone ever. If someone wants to claim that they have a working magnet motor... fine, PROVE IT. But Mack cannot, and nobody else can either. He's a FALSE CLAIMANT and that's why I am against him and his followers.

Long after you and I are dead, there will _Still_ be no working permanent magnet motor from Mack or anyone else. Nor will you ever be able to breathe vacuum, use your mind to dematerialize in one place and rematerialize in another, or have personal consciousness beyond your death. Nobody will ever jump naked off a 100 story building, fly around it three times on the way down and land on her tippytoes and walk away drinking a Starbuck's grande soy nonfat latte. You may learn to swim, or use an aeroplane to fly, and maybe someday _real scientists_ may learn how to produce and control LENR, but it ain't gonna happen by believing and promoting false "sincere gentlemen" like Mad Mack.

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #289 on: May 23, 2016, 04:12:56 PM »
Tinsel
Times are quite different than when You were in Kindergarten and sharpening pencils for calculus class ,
 the ability to see our world as never before ..as well as measure what we see ...is growing at a pace which boggles the mind .

the average 6 year old can do more in 5 minutes on a tablet than _some_ men could do in a lifetime 50 years ago...

and yet it accelerates ...this ability to boldly Go !!

you presume way to much , and yes IMO your assumptions follow suit.

you will live to see Magnets doing work ....and No I don't believe in fairies or Pink unicorns .

I do however have eyes to see... and at times I cannot believe my own eyes when I look at what the _kids_ can do and the tools
they have access too !!

and yet it grows [their potential]

regarding Mack ?

I absolutely believe he was sincere ,did he make assumptions based on what he saw on his bench ??

maybe time will tell ?

if your lookin for that cheeseburger , I still have it over here in _storage_ !!

 :o


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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #289 on: May 23, 2016, 04:12:56 PM »
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Offline tinman

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #290 on: May 23, 2016, 04:22:10 PM »
Tinsel
Times are quite different than when You were sharpening pencils for calculus class , the ability to see our world as never before
as well as measure what we see ...is growing at a pace which boggles the mind .

the average 6 year old can do more in 5 minutes on a tablet than some men could do in a lifetime 50 years ago...

and yet it accelerates ...this ability to boldly Go !!

you presume way to much , and yes IMO your assumptions follow suit.

 ....and No I don't believe in fairies or Pink unicorns .

I do however have eyes to see... and at times I cannot believe my own eyes when I look at what the _kids_ can do and the tools
they have access too !!

and yet it grows [their potential]

regarding Mack ?

I absolutely believe he was sincere ,did he make assumptions based on what he saw on his bench ??

maybe time will tell ?

if your lookin for that cheeseburger , I still have it over here in _storage_ !!

 :o

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you will live to see Magnets doing work

Indeed.
The 2016 PMBO has only 1 week left ;)


Brad

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #291 on: May 24, 2016, 09:07:45 PM »
1. Animals swim, proving that creatures can do it. There is no scientific principle that prevents swimming.
2. Animals fly, proving that creatures can do it. There is no scientific principle that prevents flight.
3. There is much _scientific_ research on LENR and the jury is still out on some of this research. Many scientific principles prevent _certain types_ of LENR and until demonstrated otherwise those principles are valid. Meanwhile outright frauds like Rossi continue to prey on the hopeful innocents.
4. My "arrogance and assumptions" as you call it have never been proven false yet.

I'm  not against properly conducted research, what I AM strongly against is fakers and false claimants like Mack, who has not got what he claimed, never had and never will, and who has bamboozled people into wasting time and money trying to build something that has absolutely no chance of working. And I am strongly against those who promote those false claimants simply because they seem "sincere" even though they haven't provided a single lick of proof at all to anyone ever. If someone wants to claim that they have a working magnet motor... fine, PROVE IT. But Mack cannot, and nobody else can either. He's a FALSE CLAIMANT and that's why I am against him and his followers.

Long after you and I are dead, there will _Still_ be no working permanent magnet motor from Mack or anyone else. Nor will you ever be able to breathe vacuum, use your mind to dematerialize in one place and rematerialize in another, or have personal consciousness beyond your death. Nobody will ever jump naked off a 100 story building, fly around it three times on the way down and land on her tippytoes and walk away drinking a Starbuck's grande soy nonfat latte. You may learn to swim, or use an aeroplane to fly, and maybe someday _real scientists_ may learn how to produce and control LENR, but it ain't gonna happen by believing and promoting false "sincere gentlemen" like Mad Mack.
Have you seen this ?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RZB1xstXS0

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #291 on: May 24, 2016, 09:07:45 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #292 on: May 25, 2016, 03:39:33 AM »
Have you seen this ?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RZB1xstXS0

Yes, I have. It's an obvious fake, and not even a very good one. Take a look at the poster's other videos on his channel.

Got any more?

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #293 on: May 25, 2016, 03:52:11 AM »
Tinsel
Times are quite different than when You were in Kindergarten and sharpening pencils for calculus class ,
 the ability to see our world as never before ..as well as measure what we see ...is growing at a pace which boggles the mind .

the average 6 year old can do more in 5 minutes on a tablet than _some_ men could do in a lifetime 50 years ago...
And that kid understands much less about what she is doing than those men did.
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and yet it accelerates ...this ability to boldly Go !!

you presume way to much , and yes IMO your assumptions follow suit.

When have I been shown to be wrong?

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you will live to see Magnets doing work ....and No I don't believe in fairies or Pink unicorns .


Some people have different ideas about what "work" means; they will tell you that your refrigerator magnets holding up those kid's drawings of rocket ships are doing work. And that is the only kind of "work" from permanent magnets that we will be seeing.

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I do however have eyes to see... and at times I cannot believe my own eyes when I look at what the _kids_ can do and the tools
they have access too !!

David Copperfield makes the Statue of Liberty disappear and reappear before the eyes of hundreds of witnesses. Sure, young people have great technology at their fingertips. Not a single piece of that technology violates Conservation of Energy, Conservation of Momentum, or Conservation of Miracles. A "permanent magnet motor" of the Mad Mack variety violates all three, and will never exist, no matter how smart the "kids" are.

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and yet it grows [their potential]

regarding Mack ?

I absolutely believe he was sincere ,did he make assumptions based on what he saw on his bench ??

maybe time will tell ?

Sure, it's possible to fool yourself if you don't do proper testing with control setups like I've suggested many times. A heavy flywheel on good bearings will spin for a long time, and if you don't have baseline data you might think that your magnet configuration is helping it spin when it really isn't. But Mack stated clearly that he had built working prototypes and that he was under NDA with some company. So I think that takes care of the assumption question.

As far as "time will tell".... it already has told. Weeks, months, and soon a full year will have gone by with nothing from any of the people who have been trying to build what Mack tells them will work... but doesn't. Nobody has even made anything that will spin longer than the baseline setup (same dimensions and weights but no magnets), and this proves that magnets and ramps only add drag through eddy current generation. They are making _brakes_, because that's all that Mack's "designs" really amount to. Most of them aren't even bothering to keep trying any more.

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if your lookin for that cheeseburger , I still have it over here in _storage_ !!

 :o

That's not the only thing that is still in storage.

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #293 on: May 25, 2016, 03:52:11 AM »
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Offline seychelles

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #294 on: May 25, 2016, 07:29:40 AM »
Question for you TK,  which of the two dc motors will run more efficiently power wise, putting in mind that the two motors have the same stator windingS electrically,  BUT ONE WITH A MAGNET ROTOR AND THE OTHER WITH AN ELECTROMAGNET ROTOR..
I would say the one with the magnet motor will be way more efficient..why because the PM is doing extra work NO!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wI6XVCPyhYs
The problem up-till now there has not be an inventor who has come Up with a PM powered motor, the reason why is that we do not understand that PM magnetic field is a spin vortex.. it static but yet in full flight..so my suggestion is that all the PM IN THE PM MOTOR HAS TO BE FREELY SPINNING APPROPRIATELY ACCORDING TO ITS DESIGN..


Offline AlienGrey

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #295 on: May 25, 2016, 08:00:01 AM »
Yes, I have. It's an obvious fake, and not even a very good one. Take a look at the poster's other videos on his channel.

Got any more?
yes this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLO6FJVqlxatfTY0QlElqDZNK4yE4jU3z8&v=n4YD8Nvyfa4

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #295 on: May 25, 2016, 08:00:01 AM »
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Offline Lidmotor

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #296 on: May 25, 2016, 09:58:55 PM »
  I guess the group formed a car company for investors called "Mackmobile".

   Here is their first model coming out this year called the "Sincere"---if they get enough funding.

Offline Pirate88179

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #297 on: May 28, 2016, 10:24:48 PM »
  I guess the group formed a car company for investors called "Mackmobile".

   Here is their first model coming out this year called the "Sincere"---if they get enough funding.

I was going to buy one of these cars but, it appears they only come in black...or, any other color you want...as long as it is black.

Bill

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #298 on: May 29, 2016, 05:44:08 PM »

I was going to buy one of these cars but, it appears they only come in black...or, any other color you want...as long as it is black.

Bill

  Hey I was going to put an order in for one.  I didn't care what color it was but I couldn't get one with AC, pwr windows, and door locks.   >:(  That was a deal breaker.
   I have thought about building up a whimsical simple version of this contraption just for fun.  Of course it would have a hidden motor or a compressed air stream thrust or (the best) ----"Mr. Hand" drive unit.

Rusty

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #299 on: May 30, 2016, 01:41:24 AM »
I was going to buy one of these cars but, it appears they only come in black...or, any other color you want...as long as it is black.

Bill

  Hey I was going to put an order in for one.  I didn't care what color it was but I couldn't get one with AC, pwr windows, and door locks.   >:(  That was a deal breaker.
   I have thought about building up a whimsical simple version of this contraption just for fun.  Of course it would have a hidden motor or a compressed air stream thrust or (the best) ----"Mr. Hand" drive unit.

Rusty

Hey Rusty, never underestimate the power provided by Mr. Hand.  We have been observing his input into many "Free Energy" devices for many years now.  This poor, unsung hero deserves at least a Bud Light, or a simple thank you.

If not for Mr. Hand, how many Youtube videos would just be a collection of non functioning free energy devices?  So, I salute this guy for all of the "work" he has done.  His "input" has been invaluable to so many devices, we can't even begin to name them.

What a hard working guy.

Bill

 

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