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Author Topic: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]  (Read 101225 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #180 on: November 22, 2015, 08:33:05 AM »
And _another week_ goes by without any working magnet motor from the guru Mack and his disciples. And it has even been nearly a week since anyone has even bothered to post on the thread at EF. Are they all busy sitting in their workshops watching their magic magnet motors spinning away perpetually?

Somehow... I doubt it.

And in another week, month, year from today.... we will see the same thing: No working magnet motor from Mack or his believers.

You have been hoaxed, people, by a "sincere gentleman" who didn't even have to show you _anything at all_, much less a faked YouTube video.

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #181 on: November 22, 2015, 07:59:48 PM »
SmOky2
in your vid  here  >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6F9I5OiSTE

the sides can move in and out [we see them do this]
does it still work if they are held firm , thank you for your comments and insight on this topic ,they are greatly appreciated.

thx for sharing ,and to be clear for persons unaware,  Smoky doesn't play games [slopes and such].

thx
Chet

ahh, yes that's just cause I had them sitting loosely on the floor.
 H.J.'s original demonstration the linear rails were secured firmly on a wooden track.

the operating principal is what I was trying to show there.
It is the same magnetic function that is performed by the Tri-Force and other such "magnetic gates"

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #182 on: November 30, 2015, 11:17:35 PM »
Has it been _another week_ gone by already? Yes, it has, and still no self running magnet motor from Mack or any of his builders at EF.

In fact the whole Mack thread has even dropped off the first page at EF, as people like BroMikey are working on other things now.
Nobody has even bothered to comment on their "progress" in two weeks or more.

Yes, I'll keep reminding you lot that in a week, a month, and a year there will _still_ be no self running magnet motor from Mack or anybody else trying to build something from his false claims and bogus "design". But will the builders admit defeat, will they acknowledge that I am right and have been right _all along_ and _yet again_ ? Not very likely... as in all religions, when the prophecies don't come to pass they will just move the goalposts again. Well, let's wait another week (month, year) and see what happens.

You have been hoaxed, people, and your guru the "sincere gentleman" Mack himself has already left the building, with his perfect exit strategy in place. And he didn't even have to show you a fake motor!


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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #182 on: November 30, 2015, 11:17:35 PM »
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Offline ramset

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #183 on: December 01, 2015, 09:56:23 PM »
It is very chilly in here...
Who  turned off the heat ?? (Stefan and his belt tightening stuff...I told him that LED convection heater was a scamm,.

Tinsel,
 I,m not feeling the love over here... Don't you know we don't know it all ?

MACK went in for a surgery and has not been heard from..
I sincerely appreciate you keeping the spot warm for him..
Sincerely

Chet

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #184 on: December 01, 2015, 10:02:18 PM »
I think were close but what I've seen so far will find balance.
Maybe Mack hasn't given the final clue yet.
just saying artv

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #184 on: December 01, 2015, 10:02:18 PM »
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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #185 on: December 02, 2015, 01:41:03 AM »
we shall see ....?

In the mean time here is one of the MACK builders and some info on magnetism he Sincerely wants to share.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20331-enlightened-magnetism-full-proof-ken-wheelers-theories.html?

part one of the Movie series here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etaYzqtEnDw&feature=youtu.be

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #186 on: December 02, 2015, 02:11:16 AM »
we shall see ....?

In the mean time here is one of the MACK builders and some info on magnetism he Sincerely wants to share.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20331-enlightened-magnetism-full-proof-ken-wheelers-theories.html?

part one of the Movie series here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etaYzqtEnDw&feature=youtu.be

Ohhhhh dear Chet-->really :o UFOpolotics.
His video clearly shows you !once again!  just how clueless he is in what he is doing,and what he is seeing in his results. He shows nothing more than a magnetic field varying in time-the very thing needed to create an EMF across an inductor-be it that single turn copper plate,or the multi turn coil.

The magnetic field changes in time in regards to the position of the coil when he drop's the steel core on top of the magnet. Once again DUFO shows nothing out of the ordinary. In fact,i cant believe he dosnt understand as to why the spike is the same when he turns both the magnet and coil over.

Next video,he will turn his scope upside down ,and show us how the spike is now inverted.
UFOpolotice clearly belongs at energetic forum :D


Brad

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #186 on: December 02, 2015, 02:11:16 AM »
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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #187 on: December 02, 2015, 02:45:20 AM »
I have to agree with Brad on this.  Dufo is very much a self proclaimed expert about everything.  Over and over he posted his pretty CAD drawings on Mack's thread.  And over and over Mack had to correct what Dufo was claiming.  I am still undecided about Mack and after the holidays I want to get back to work on trying some more of his ideas.  I have already seen that some of what he has told us is true.  But as far as Dufo, watching anything he posts or writes is a waste of time.  He has a proven track record of failures.  Just check out his assy  motor thread.

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #188 on: December 02, 2015, 03:23:03 AM »
Excellent advice, Tinselk!

The marvelous little internal combustion engines for model cars, boats, and, air craft can be persuaded to cough up their very lovely crankshaft bearings also, which are also very good for low friction bearings.


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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #188 on: December 02, 2015, 03:23:03 AM »
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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #189 on: December 02, 2015, 08:54:09 AM »
It is very chilly in here...
Who  turned off the heat ?? (Stefan and his belt tightening stuff...I told him that LED convection heater was a scamm,.

Tinsel,
 I,m not feeling the love over here... Don't you know we don't know it all ?

MACK went in for a surgery and has not been heard from..
I sincerely appreciate you keeping the spot warm for him..
Sincerely

Chet
We don't know it all, that's for sure, but there are some things we _do_ know for sure, and I know for sure that Mack and his "self running magnet motor" are fakes and will never yield a working item.
 
I don't object to people doing research. What I do object to is being told lies, and I object to other people being suckered in by liars and the lies they tell.

What is your evidence that Mack went in for a surgery? Oh... that's right... Mack told you this.

When someone who has a track record of truth, verifiable demonstrations and good performance like some people we know, I'll believe them when they say they are ill, hurting and/or in the hospital.

When someone makes outrageous unsupported claims from the very beginning, leads a bunch of well meaning people down a garden path for months, and then disappears with some excuse or other... I'll put as much faith in that convenient excuse as I do in the rest of what he's posted.

That thread has now dropped off the first page on EF's table of contents, and the main proponents, BroMikey and UFOPolitics, are spending time doing other things now. A reasonable person might draw some conclusions from those facts.

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #190 on: December 02, 2015, 09:03:33 AM »
Ohhhhh dear Chet-->really :o UFOpolotics.
His video clearly shows you !once again!  just how clueless he is in what he is doing,and what he is seeing in his results. He shows nothing more than a magnetic field varying in time-the very thing needed to create an EMF across an inductor-be it that single turn copper plate,or the multi turn coil.

The magnetic field changes in time in regards to the position of the coil when he drop's the steel core on top of the magnet. Once again DUFO shows nothing out of the ordinary. In fact,i cant believe he dosnt understand as to why the spike is the same when he turns both the magnet and coil over.

Next video,he will turn his scope upside down ,and show us how the spike is now inverted.
UFOpolotice clearly belongs at energetic forum :D


Brad

Exactly. UFOP is showing his ignorance and is actually _confirming_ the conventional viewpoint, as others are telling him in that thread. He has tried to construct a demonstration that "proves" Kenny's theory, rather than designing a true experiment that could potentially disprove it. And he has failed even in that.

Wheeler's ideas are fanciful art, or rather cartoons, nothing more. Have any of the Believers actually put his "heat emitting overunity" bismuth ball-plus-magnet into an insulated container with a thermometer to see if the temperature rises yet? That simple little experiment has the _potential_ to prove him wrong yet again, and the Believers cannot withstand any such challenges to their faith.

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #190 on: December 02, 2015, 09:03:33 AM »
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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #191 on: December 02, 2015, 02:37:14 PM »
here is a man showing why the shape Mack utilizes in his ramps can be quite tempting in the possibility department...
got this from Mark Dansies site

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+magnet+rolling+on+narrow+triangle+metal+a+simple+magnet+ramp&view=detail&mid=C282B6872F6A1B508DEBC282B6872F6A1B508DEB&FORM=VIRE1

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #192 on: December 02, 2015, 11:38:01 PM »
here is a man showing why the shape Mack utilizes in his ramps can be quite tempting in the possibility department...
got this from Mark Dansies site

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+magnet+rolling+on+narrow+triangle+metal+a+simple+magnet+ramp&view=detail&mid=C282B6872F6A1B508DEBC282B6872F6A1B508DEB&FORM=VIRE1

Actually it's Yet Another video showing simply that magnets are attracted to metal, with Mister Hand first placing the magnet at a location where magnetic potential energy is high and releasing the magnet so it can travel to a place where MPE is low.

Guess what: you can put a weight on a table, then push it off and let it fall to the ground. The weight moves from a position where gravitational potential energy is high to one where it is lower, and work must be done to move it back again to where the energy is high (back onto the table). You get out what you put in, minus losses.
Or hold a magnet a small distance away from a block of iron and release it and watch it jump over and stick to the iron. Big deal! Whoopie!  Make a video and claim that it is "quite tempting"! Because it is exactly the same phenomenon that is demonstrated in that video. Again, you get out what you put in, minus losses.

There is _no_ configuration of ramps, stators, whatever, that will result in putting energy IN to a rotational system like the "Mack Motor" alleged design, and the proper experimental testing that I have been advocating will show this to be true, quite easily. All will only add drag (or in the best case do nothing), and will make the rotor come to a stop faster when its initial starting energy is used up. And that is exactly why none of the Believers will actually do (or rather _report_) the testing -- they are afraid to acknowledge that their entire premise is simply wrong and that their Guru has duped them. But you can bet your bippy that they are each discovering this fact on their own in their own ways, which is why that thread has dropped off the front page and the builders have moved on to other things.


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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #193 on: December 03, 2015, 03:06:47 PM »
well
magnets climbing vertically against gravity .. while carrying a spinning paperclip ..does give me pause to contemplate the "what ifs"
and also the fact that Macks ramps are more or less EXACTLY this shape ..

Mack did say "think in three dimensions ' not two ,

gives pause for thought IMO.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+magnet+rolling+on+narrow+triangle+metal+a+simple+magnet+ramp&view=detail&mid=C282B6872F6A1B508DEBC282B6872F6A1B508DEB&FORM=VIRE1

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #194 on: December 03, 2015, 03:25:51 PM »
well
magnets climbing vertically against gravity .. while carrying a spinning paperclip ..does give me pause to contemplate the "what ifs"
and also the fact that Macks ramps are more or less EXACTLY this shape ..

Mack did say "think in three dimensions ' not two ,

gives pause for thought IMO.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+magnet+rolling+on+narrow+triangle+metal+a+simple+magnet+ramp&view=detail&mid=C282B6872F6A1B508DEBC282B6872F6A1B508DEB&FORM=VIRE1

Chet

No,no,no Chet-nothing out of the ordinary happening there.
But the one below will be a little harder for the guru's to dismiss.
How will they explain acceleration of a mass that can actually leave the gate at the end of the run?.

This one starts at a stand still,rolls up hill,and exit's the gate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNijcXPcTs0

 

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