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Author Topic: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]  (Read 94881 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #150 on: October 21, 2015, 12:10:35 AM »
The "motor without a camshaft" is a pitiful strawman, and only shows that you don't understand the basics of what you are trying to do. Let me run it down for you.

You have a rotor that dissipates a certain amount of power as it spins down from some push --- which so far your friends are only doing with Mister Hand, hence variable input and not repeatable consistently. You and they don't even know how much power your rotors dissipate!

You are making additions and changes that are supposed to add energy to the rotor's spin. Maybe the additions aren't perfect "yet" so maybe they only add a little bit of energy, less than that which is required to make it self run yet. But you don't even know this, because you have not done the right experiments to establish a baseline power dissipation for comparison. You seem to think that when you have everything just right, you'll give it a spin and it will keep going, and you don't have to test anything scientifically until you achieve that. Then why are your friends bothering to spin _any_ of your systems by hand when you know already that the "motor" isn't complete? That's just silly, since you've said that testing before a complete motor is made is useless. Or did I put those words into your mouth too?

Your friends are making changes that are supposed to have some effect. I am telling you that these changes are only adding drag, or doing nothing, to your rotor spins. And no matter what changes in ramps, magnet angles, etc. this will continue to be true. Test it and find out! You dare not, because your faith will be challenged by your findings. Meanwhile you and they continue your fiddling about. But in another week, nobody will have a working motor. In another month, still nobody will have one. In a year... same thing. No working magnet motor will come out of your "designs", whether or not you follow my test suggestions. But by following my suggestions, perhaps _someone_ will begin to see the light and will stop wasting their time, creativity and money on these claims of yours that are simply not true. Just as many people who originally believed UFOPolitics' claims of "Official Overunity Galore" have given up and stopped spending money on those false claims -- because they _tested_ properly and scientifically and didn't find any overunity in their rewound motors and kludged-up driver circuits.

I'll check back in a week, and remind you again. And in a month. And, if I live that long, in a year, when you and your friends will _still_ not have anything that will support your claim of having made a working magnet motor.

Go ahead and prove me wrong! You cannot, because your claims are false.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d22CiKMPpaY

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Offline MadMack

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #151 on: October 21, 2015, 06:30:25 PM »
I researched your online history in this forum and a few others going back several years. The majority of your posts serve to ridicule and repress ideas, experiments, and basic research on controversial concepts toward free energy.
 
You are following your standard book of play here. The same methods and even the phrases you like to use can be seen throughout numerous threads in multiple venues, even on YouTube.

So now I know what your purpose is I am through wasting time on you. Go right ahead and continue your efforts to discredit and undermine what I am trying to accomplish. It will have no affect.

To everyone reading this.
Don't accept my word for this. Skim through all of the posts made by Tinselkoala on this forum, then Google different energy forums along with that member name. See it for yourself.

Adiós

Offline minnie

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #152 on: October 21, 2015, 10:20:55 PM »



    Poor old MadMack doesn't seem to like the truth.
    Simple for you to make Tinsel look daft MadMack,
    just come up with a working device.
            John.

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #152 on: October 21, 2015, 10:20:55 PM »
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Offline PIH123

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #153 on: October 22, 2015, 04:37:04 AM »
Adiós

Say it ain't so. You're not leaving are you.


EMJunkie did that.

He came here to "Teach" us (just like you).
Then he left.
But thankfully, he came back.
Then ran away.
Then came back.
Then chickened out.
Then came back.
Then when danger reared it's ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled (holy grail)
etc ........................


Not sure of the current status (whether he is back or not), but it doesn't matter.
His thread is almost 400 pages and still without a working device.
It doesn't take much around here.


Hang in there MadMack, you can do this.
You have an NDA and a "cease and desist" order on your side,
so you don't have to show any silly schematics / results / theory like EMJ at least "tried" to do.

Good luck. 1000 pages !!!!!!!!!
I am rooting for you

Pete 

Offline ramset

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #154 on: October 22, 2015, 07:56:34 AM »
Hmmm
I have to say on the subject Of EMJunkie
I honestly have no idea why he does what he does[ refuses testing or public investigation ]

I find it funny that Brad's very thorough  investigations are happening in a thread where there has never been an investigation of EMJunkies initial claim or anything ??[at least that I am aware]
not even a black box investigation ??
ZERO Zilch NADA ??
it is the Elephant in the room over there and all credibility goes Bye bye for Chris ,Not so at all with Brad
he knows how tricky these things can really be and how easy a simple transformer can run you around in circles if you don't know what you're looking at.
IMO opinion Brad is taking Chris to school ...which is a good thing,  he actually helps us all.


On this Topic
  I am quite aware of the implications to a persons life for signing an NDA as well as breaching assumed confidences .

But to be completely honest ...

I am just grateful to the fellows building this and publicly sharing their findings and hard work ,I hope they can maintain their sanity.
Few things can be as daunting as Magnets and all the minutia which happens when you try to put them together to do work.

makes herding cats look like a dream job ...

I also think it is quite arrogant to assume you have seen it all and know it all when it comes to things you have actually never seen or known...such as a working Magnet motor.
Oh I forgot...Its impossible ??
NAHH,  I'm not buying that.

Just one mans opinion..

respectfully
Chet K

PS
 I am completely rooting for Macks replicators to find something unusual
thread here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20239-magnet-motor-revelation-21.html

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #154 on: October 22, 2015, 07:56:34 AM »
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Offline cristopalba

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #155 on: October 22, 2015, 04:49:54 PM »
Hi everybody

<<<<<<I am completely rooting for Macks replicators>>>>>

    -you know some original model, to call me I replicator? I know of none

<<<<<to find something unusual
thread here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20239-magnet-motor-revelation-21.html>>>>>>

     -Where he is looking at you in the written text in English or Spanish Comment.  Good to know for the next time
Excuse me, still do not know how to use the disclaimer
  regards.   cristian alba

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #156 on: October 23, 2015, 11:14:23 AM »
Say it ain't so. You're not leaving are you.


EMJunkie did that.

He came here to "Teach" us (just like you).
Then he left.
But thankfully, he came back.
Then ran away.
Then came back.
Then chickened out.
Then came back.
Then when danger reared it's ugly head, he bravely turned his tail and fled (holy grail)
etc ........................


Not sure of the current status (whether he is back or not), but it doesn't matter.
His thread is almost 400 pages and still without a working device.
It doesn't take much around here.


Hang in there MadMack, you can do this.
You have an NDA and a "cease and desist" order on your side,
so you don't have to show any silly schematics / results / theory like EMJ at least "tried" to do.

Good luck. 1000 pages !!!!!!!!!
I am rooting for you

Pete


PHIffle, you're a Dick!!!

Using names to and making idiot comments like you do, behind peoples back, proves it!

By the way, we have had several devices shown on the thread I created from another user that clearly demonstrated Excess energy gains... But your IQ inhibits you realizing what's right in front of your nose!

I have met many idiots in my time, you, PHIffle, are perhaps the utmost top ranking!

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #156 on: October 23, 2015, 11:14:23 AM »
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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #157 on: October 23, 2015, 11:22:13 AM »
Hmmm
I have to say on the subject Of EMJunkie
I honestly have no idea why he does what he does[ refuses testing or public investigation ]

I find it funny that Brad's very thorough  investigations are happening in a thread where there has never been an investigation of EMJunkies initial claim or anything ??[at least that I am aware]
not even a black box investigation ??
ZERO Zilch NADA ??
it is the Elephant in the room over there and all credibility goes Bye bye for Chris ,Not so at all with Brad
he knows how tricky these things can really be and how easy a simple transformer can run you around in circles if you don't know what you're looking at.
IMO opinion Brad is taking Chris to school ...which is a good thing,  he actually helps us all.


On this Topic
  I am quite aware of the implications to a persons life for signing an NDA as well as breaching assumed confidences .

But to be completely honest ...

I am just grateful to the fellows building this and publicly sharing their findings and hard work ,I hope they can maintain their sanity.
Few things can be as daunting as Magnets and all the minutia which happens when you try to put them together to do work.

makes herding cats look like a dream job ...

I also think it is quite arrogant to assume you have seen it all and know it all when it comes to things you have actually never seen or known...such as a working Magnet motor.
Oh I forgot...Its impossible ??
NAHH,  I'm not buying that.

Just one mans opinion..

respectfully
Chet K

PS
 I am completely rooting for Macks replicators to find something unusual
thread here
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20239-magnet-motor-revelation-21.html


Chet K - Rather disappointed in your comments also!

To be honest I really did expect a bit more from you!!!

Well, I always have said, "I try to learn something every day", and Brad is about the only one on this entire forum that does any work! All the Douche Bags that claim to know everything are in fact the farthest behind!!! Its an Arrogance thing!!!

I have about 6 Names in my head right now that are the only Elephants in the Room Chet K, and you've just been added to the list Pal!

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #158 on: October 23, 2015, 11:27:01 AM »
I researched your online history in this forum and a few others going back several years. The majority of your posts serve to ridicule and repress ideas, experiments, and basic research on controversial concepts toward free energy.
 
You are following your standard book of play here. The same methods and even the phrases you like to use can be seen throughout numerous threads in multiple venues, even on YouTube.

So now I know what your purpose is I am through wasting time on you. Go right ahead and continue your efforts to discredit and undermine what I am trying to accomplish. It will have no affect.

To everyone reading this.
Don't accept my word for this. Skim through all of the posts made by Tinselkoala on this forum, then Google different energy forums along with that member name. See it for yourself.

Adiós

Be sure and list all the times I've been _wrong_ about magnet motor builders in my judgements while you are doing all this googling.  This forum "and a few others"? Why don't you list those other forums, with some links that support your contentions? Why don't you list some things that I've tried to "repress" that turned out to be worthwhile and true? When have I ever tried to stop _actual scientific experimentation_? When have I ever discouraged _proper measurements_ and _proper control experiments_?  I know the answers to these questions. Do you?

In another week, month and year there will STILL be no self-running magnet motor coming from you or any of your "replicators".... as cristopalba says... replicators of what?? You've shown no evidence that your claims are true.... because you cannot, because they aren't.

Go ahead and prove me wrong. You cannot. Google me all you like, do you think that will help you to prove me wrong when I say that you don't have what you claim, you never have had, and that your friends are wasting their time? I laugh at you. And in a week, while you are googling away, I'll still be laughing. And in a month, and in a year, I'll be the one still laughing, not you. Google away! But you don't have a working magnet motor, you never have had, and none of your friends will be able to make one, with or without your "help".

And it's "effect" not "affect". Hey, you can waste _your_ time all you like, by trying to build something that you can demonstrate. I've got nothing against that.  But when you use your false claims to sucker other people into wasting _their_ time and creativity and money, that's when you cross the line from being a "sincere gentleman" into being an outright False Claimant. And if someone gives you material support because of your claims, like they did for Mylow, for instance... then you become a Fraudster on top of that.

Come on, google away.... but the only way you and your cultists will be able to PROVE ME WRONG is to produce some evidence that your claims are true... but you cannot. And you know it, which is why you are running away instead of refuting me with facts, proper experimental data and actual demonstrations of your own. Adiós! But you'll be back.

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #158 on: October 23, 2015, 11:27:01 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #159 on: October 23, 2015, 11:30:22 AM »

Chet K - Rather disappointed in your comments also!

To be honest I really did expect a bit more from you!!!

Well, I always have said, "I try to learn something every day", and Brad is about the only one on this entire forum that does any work! All the Douche Bags that claim to know everything are in fact the farthest behind!!! Its an Arrogance thing!!!

I have about 6 Names in my head right now that are the only Elephants in the Room Chet K, and you've just been added to the list Pal!

   Chris Sykes
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You have still provided NO EVIDENCE that your "overunity" and "free energy" claims are true. Because you can't! You don't even know how to use your own test equipment properly. Add names to your list all you like, it won't help you to prove your claims. After all.... your claims of "free energy" from your coil arrangements (which are not unusual and appear in just about every modern power supply)  are simply false.

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #160 on: October 23, 2015, 11:35:51 AM »
Howard Johnson dedicated a large chunk of his life to magnet motor design and successfully got a patent.

"Energy from the vacuum part 4" DVD shows his linear motor and the possible thrust when designed correctly

http://www.energyfromthevacuum.com/Disc4HoJo/index.html

http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Howard_Johnson_Motor/1979Paper/

magnet motors are definitely a reality and acheivable BUT .....itd take a super dedicated researcher or team


All the best of luck



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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
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Offline EMJunkie

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #161 on: October 23, 2015, 11:36:41 AM »
You have still provided NO EVIDENCE that your "overunity" and "free energy" claims are true. Because you can't! You don't even know how to use your own test equipment properly. Add names to your list all you like, it won't help you to prove your claims. After all.... your claims of "free energy" from your coil arrangements (which are not unusual and appear in just about every modern power supply)  are simply false.

TK, I told you I was not going to provide you with any measurement data. Yet you and the other Idiots still sit on your High Horse and Complain!!! All you and the other Idiots want is a free breakfast! Not to have to think, not to have to work... We are not your Slaves you pompous Old Git!!!

I gave the forum a Concept.

Some took the concept and learnt from it...

You, TK, Known all over the world as a CIA Troll, Stamped your Feet and had a big cry baby!!!

Hahaha, you can never get away from the Reputation of CIA Troll you old Douche Bag!!!

TK, I have an Idea, how about replicate Brads RT, he gave you how many videos with instructions.... Oh that's right, you did, and CANT!!!

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P.S: To the owner of this Thread, sorry for venting on this thread! Don't put up with the Goon Squad, Complain to Stefan! It does work!!! Oh look at that, its "ramset" Chet K...

Offline MileHigh

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #162 on: October 23, 2015, 11:48:55 AM »
Magnet motors turn up like clockwork and they are all dead as door nails because of a few simple facts.

But wow, from the EF thread this clip is amazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNOhuYaU1WI

That has got to be the spookiest and most atmospheric magnetic motor clip I have ever seen!  It's like it is right out of the movie "Saw" or something.  Or it's a Walking Dead magnetic motor dead alive!

Positively creepy and just in time for Halloween.  The motor is infected with the malevolent spirit of Howard Johnson.  It's the demon seed of Mylow coming back to get you.

Offline ramset

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #163 on: October 23, 2015, 12:37:40 PM »
Chris
You fiddle while Rome burns ,the only reason your thread has activity is due to honest hardworking experimenters looking for the truth.
specifically Brad at this point ,...he understands completely that you run looking for adversary and people willing to knock your claims
it is the only way to rule out error in your work [unless you have something running on nothing ...with gain].

cartoons, jokes,  insults and make believe CIA enemies [here] get old pretty quickly.

you started a topic with a definite claim ...now you fill it with other peoples claims and seem to fall away from your own ,refusing any sort of evidence whatsoever but insisting we believe you and waste countless hours of time Looking for an effect you won't even describe ??

quite true you don't see any replicators in "your" thread ,you can tell yourself its because their lazy....

if that's what floats your boat.

but I believe you must have made an error and are too proud to admit it ,your personality seems more inclined to insult than helping humanity ,you take too much delight in this [insult] and seem much more interested in _that_ then helping others understand what you claim to have.

Pointing to Gunderson's work or the work of others is not good enuff

how about pointing to your own work?

Brad asked you yesterday to show "anything" and your response is to imply he is doing good ???
doesn't even make sense??


Chet K

 



maybe you should have a good look in the mirror




Offline EMJunkie

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #164 on: October 23, 2015, 01:27:02 PM »
Chris
You fiddle while Rome burns ,the only reason your thread has activity is due to honest hardworking experimenters looking for the truth.
specifically Brad at this point ,...he understands completely that you run looking for adversary and people willing to knock your claims
it is the only way to rule out error in your work [unless you have something running on nothing ...with gain].

cartoons jokes  insults and make believe CIA enemies [here] get old pretty quickly.

you started a topic with a definite claim ...now you fill it with other peoples claims and seem to fall away from your own ,refusing any sort of evidence whatsoever but insisting we believe you and waste countless hours of time Looking for am effect you won't even describe ??

quite true you don't see any replicators in "your" thread ,you can tell yourself its because their lazy....

if that's what floats your boat.

Chet K

 



maybe you should have a good look in the mirror.


Chet K - Good thread, shame it is now the Home of the Goon Squad!

EDIT: Frustrated Rant Removed...

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