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Author Topic: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]  (Read 133171 times)

TinselKoala

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Re: Are you an academic, TK?
« Reply #105 on: October 11, 2015, 12:10:53 AM »
TinselKoala

I'm glad you're privy to the details of my NDA agreement. Regardless of what you think I have not violated the letter of that agreement. As for the spirit of the agreement I have adopted the same spirit as the other signatories. If they had honored the true spirit of the agreement we wouldn't be here. And for your information the cease and desist was a demand, not an order, which I refused both publicly and privately. You read my refusal, yet you ignore that. The motor I am helping others with is not the one under restriction and the individual bits of information I have discussed is prior art. You seem to be blissfully unaware of that while you conduct your rant.

The actual motor is in the possession of my so called partners and I no longer have so much as a shed and hand tools to build anything with.
If you don't like that, tough. Get over it.

Mack
Are you an academic, TK?
Oh, so this is about _me_ now, and not about your claims? Fine.

Preserved for the record. Now let's cut to the chase, since you have decided to address me personally.

There is absolutely ZERO chance that you and the people you have duped will ever produce a self-running permanent magnet motor. ZERO.  And you cannot even Prove Me Wrong.  Go ahead and try. You cannot do it so you WON'T EVEN TRY, by posting any proof that your claims are true. So you can call me whatever names you like, you can disrespect me all you want... believe me, many other people than you have done it... But can you or anyone else list the times that I have been WRONG about the various fakers and frauds that I have spoken out against?

In one week: There will be No self running PM motor from YOU or anyone else.
In one month:There will be No self running PM motor from YOU or anyone else.
In one year: You'll be gone, people will be bored with you and there STILL will be no self running PM motor from YOU or anyone else.

Go ahead... PROVE ME WRONG !! You cannot !!

(Am I an academic? Not any more, my University affiliations are in the past. But I'm still a scientist, a researcher, and I'm a BUILDER of things that WORK, and a person who is interested in promoting the TRUTH and exposing the blowhard false claims like the famous "Official Overunity Galore" to which I have referred above.)

Now pardon me, I have to go feed my herd of Pink Unicorns. If I can find them.... they are invisible, you know, and the FACT that you can't see them proves they exist.

TinselKoala

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #106 on: October 11, 2015, 12:16:18 AM »
"As for the spirit of the agreement I have adopted the same spirit as the other signatories. If they had honored the true spirit of the agreement we wouldn't be here."

But Mommy, the other kids are all doing it.... so it must be OK...   

 :'(
 

MadMack

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #107 on: October 11, 2015, 12:29:35 AM »
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So, Why don't you just go an post a PDF or a JPG or any format really of that NDA or the Cease and Desist order.
Really? As if that would prove anything to the likes of the people here. Do you understand the difference between public and private?
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But Mommy, the other kids are all doing it.... so it must be OK...
C'mon TK. Is that the best you can come up with?
This thread is nothing but a personal smear. Not one post has been made that scientifically refutes any part of what I have posted publicly about the motor design.

Don't worry. This thread seems to be fully capable of generating a hundred more pages of crap without my help.

Mack

ramset

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #108 on: October 11, 2015, 12:33:21 AM »
well
so far I only see one person "asking" for some one to call him names and asking to be disrespected ?????? ,I had not noticed much childish behavior and Mommy calling or silly Pink unicorn banter from anyone else here ?

Yeesh......

double Yeeeesh.......




shylo

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #109 on: October 11, 2015, 12:34:45 AM »
Hi Mack,
There has to be more to it than just ramps, right?
Even with pivoting ramps they find balance, and if you use springs on the pivoting ramp it locks.
Is there more to come, there must be.
Thanks artv

Pirate88179

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #110 on: October 11, 2015, 01:48:15 AM »
I can honestly say that I have not seen TK's pink unicorns.  This is consistent with the fact that they are invisible so, if that is
not proof, I don't know what is.

Bill

tinman

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Re: Are you an academic, TK?
« Reply #111 on: October 11, 2015, 03:53:13 AM »
TinselKoala

I'm glad you're privy to the details of my NDA agreement. Regardless of what you think I have not violated the letter of that agreement. As for the spirit of the agreement I have adopted the same spirit as the other signatories. If they had honored the true spirit of the agreement we wouldn't be here. And for your information the cease and desist was a demand, not an order, which I refused both publicly and privately. You read my refusal, yet you ignore that. The motor I am helping others with is not the one under restriction and the individual bits of information I have discussed is prior art. You seem to be blissfully unaware of that while you conduct your rant.

The actual motor is in the possession of my so called partners and I no longer have so much as a shed and hand tools to build anything with.
If you don't like that, tough. Get over it.

Mack

Ahh
That there be the !get out of jail! free card,when DUFO and the rest of them come up empty handed.
But But -thats not my motor-thats why it dose not work----->but my design dose work.

 ::)

Maybe some sort of different design may show some interesting result's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhLlI8gclZQ

MadMack

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Re: Are you an academic, TK?
« Reply #112 on: October 11, 2015, 05:14:22 AM »
Are you an academic, TK?
Oh, so this is about _me_ now, and not about your claims? Fine.

Preserved for the record. Now let's cut to the chase, since you have decided to address me personally.

There is absolutely ZERO chance that you and the people you have duped will ever produce a self-running permanent magnet motor. ZERO.  And you cannot even Prove Me Wrong.  Go ahead and try. You cannot do it so you WON'T EVEN TRY, by posting any proof that your claims are true. So you can call me whatever names you like, you can disrespect me all you want... believe me, many other people than you have done it... But can you or anyone else list the times that I have been WRONG about the various fakers and frauds that I have spoken out against?

In one week: There will be No self running PM motor from YOU or anyone else.
In one month:There will be No self running PM motor from YOU or anyone else.
In one year: You'll be gone, people will be bored with you and there STILL will be no self running PM motor from YOU or anyone else.

Go ahead... PROVE ME WRONG !! You cannot !!

(Am I an academic? Not any more, my University affiliations are in the past. But I'm still a scientist, a researcher, and I'm a BUILDER of things that WORK, and a person who is interested in promoting the TRUTH and exposing the blowhard false claims like the famous "Official Overunity Galore" to which I have referred above.)

Now pardon me, I have to go feed my herd of Pink Unicorns. If I can find them.... they are invisible, you know, and the FACT that you can't see them proves they exist.
TK,
I addressed you personally? Well so what? Isn't that what you have been trying to goad me into all along?

Now, why did I suspect you were an academic. Because you appear to exhibit the behavior of entrenched academia. But, I'm sorry you feel insulted by the title of academic, I wasn't aware that it was considered an insult or disrespectful. As for insults, it is you who have heaped these pages with vitriol.

You say you are a scientist experienced with magnet motors so why don't you PROVE __scientifically__ that any part of my design or theory is incorrect? With your claimed credentials and experience you should be eminently qualified to do so.

Go ahead... YOU WON'T because YOU CAN'T.

@Tinman,
Really, you of all people. The motor I am assisting with IS mine but it's not the one under restriction.
Is that clear enough?

tinman

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Re: Are you an academic, TK?
« Reply #113 on: October 11, 2015, 11:35:54 AM »


@Tinman,
Really, you of all people. The motor I am assisting with IS mine but it's not the one under restriction.
Is that clear enough?

Me of all people?. ???
Anyway-so the motor you are helping with-->is it a design that will self run?,or is the one under NDA the only one that will self run?.

I dont mean to sound negative,but when UFOpolotics is involved,there is usually an !over unity galore! machine that is way under unity. Then,being a part of Arron the rookies forum,we will all be watching out for the book of secret's on magnet motors-->only $39:95.

I am a believer of an all magnet motor being probable,as anything with a flow is capable of producing a force.

Jimboot

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #114 on: October 11, 2015, 01:08:47 PM »
I can see both sides of the argument here but PIH pretty well sums it up for context.


We've all been through this many times and replication takes time energy resources. So a lot of us require a high burden of proof from the claimant. From my perspective I have played with a few things on the bench because of my interest in the neutral zone effect from a previous project. I was under no delusion though that I was building a pink unicorn, rather that I was being given clues on how to catch one.  It's my decision whether I consider that to be a worthwhile endeavor.




forest

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #115 on: October 11, 2015, 01:21:34 PM »
I posted on both energeticforum and overunityresearch old patent application from 1913 describing in detail a working imho magnetic motor. It give more chances to build working device then a many pages talk here or there, simply because somebody paid in time and money to patent it. Surprisingly people are not interested ! What a strange social technic is attracting people to make something without any slight proof of success, yet the described in detail but old machine is worthless for them ..... ????


tinman

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #116 on: October 11, 2015, 01:24:25 PM »
I posted on both energeticforum and overunityresearch old patent application from 1913 describing in detail a working imho magnetic motor. It give more chances to build working device then a many pages talk here or there, simply because somebody paid in time and money to patent it. Surprisingly people are not interested ! What a strange social technic is attracting people to make something without any slight proof of success, yet the described in detail but old machine is worthless for them ..... ????

Could you post it here forest?

Cheers

hoptoad

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Re: Are you an academic, TK?
« Reply #117 on: October 11, 2015, 01:26:02 PM »
Ahh
That there be the !get out of jail! free card,when DUFO and the rest of them come up empty handed.
But But -thats not my motor-thats why it dose not work----->but my design dose work.

 ::)

Maybe some sort of different design may show some interesting result's.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhLlI8gclZQ
Very interesting video Tinman. Certainly a different approach to testing an enhancement of a system through magnets. Love your outside the box thinking.


Cheers and thanks for sharing.

forest

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Re: A sincere gentleman sharing a magnet motor build .[NDA issues??]
« Reply #118 on: October 11, 2015, 01:39:10 PM »
Could you post it here forest?

Cheers


Of course ! Only you (plus some few others) can understand the simplicity and genious of this construction. It's not easy to build, and not very efficient due to mechanical ratchet device.
I have no ability to build it, but if you can and make it please let me know.
Patent (application) attached. The key theme I spotted is the different construction, adding additional axis of freedom to movement.I guess it may work due to Newton laws ! - imho - if you have a two massive wheels , one running in one direction and second running in opposite direction attached to the same shaft cleverly then the total sum of momentum is zero!