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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2015, 11:16:43 PM »
Superposition of BMEF fields and a split EMF flux.
I think it is just another confirmation that there is something very intriguing in exotic geometries and non standard configurations that tend to produce some asymmetric responses.

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2015, 11:16:43 PM »

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #46 on: August 17, 2015, 11:52:35 PM »
He relies on the failed N machine for support.

No, this is another false assertion and misdirection by you.  Tewari is relying on M hypothesis and not the failed N hypothesis.  MarkE and others like him suffers from indetermination of velocity and acceleration measurement used in the major physical equations which are hidden behind the term of inertial frame creating Petitio Principi fallacy.  The below picture clearly shows that the velocity of the charge must be determined with regard to the source of the magnetic field as is shown in this publication, and not with regard to an arbitrary observer, which belongs to the concept that directly causes action-reaction paradox absurdity characteristic in the concept of N hypothesis. The velocity of the magnetic field is equal to the velocity of its source, i.e. to the velocity of the magnet.  The field moves with its source!

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2015, 01:46:43 AM »
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(  I have no interest in this thread ,  which is why there's something I'm not totally sure about in the  posted diagram .  I only looked at the  diagram,  I did not read the posts ,  there a bit ...........  )

I assume that in  the diagram just posted  in    Post / 'Reply #47'  ,   that  the coil around the  cylinder-magnet   does actually carry  electrical-current  doesn't it ( it's not  a  permanent-magnet  in the shape of a  Coil is it  ) 

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2015, 01:46:43 AM »
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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2015, 03:03:56 AM »
The N hypothesis led to the theory of relativity.  Einstein's first postulate is based on Faraday's description of a homopolar engine.  N hypothesis seriously violates laws of energy and angular momentum conversations. This violation is shown in the following device below (first image below, which is similar in concept with the image in my previous post) and in this video showing how the scientific community has embedded the idea of circular mental masturbation into it's theories and equations in which MarkE and his minions subscribe to.  The device below invalidates N theory and confirms the M hypothesis

However, the device below has limited rotation due to the physical constraints of the design, much like the physical constraints we found in the simple device as presented by the Crazy Russian Hacker.  Previous attempts in overcoming this design flaw to allow for a full rotation has failed. It appears Tewari has overcome the physical constraints inherit in the design flaws of modern DC generators.  The second image below is a snapshot of a publication by Tewari, titled "Genesis of Free Power Generation".

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2015, 03:14:32 AM »
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(  I have no interest in this thread ,  which is why there's something I'm not totally sure about in the  posted diagram .  I only looked at the  diagram,  I did not read the posts ,  there a bit ...........  )

I assume that in  the diagram just posted  in    Post / 'Reply #47'  ,   that  the coil around the  cylinder-magnet   does actually carry  electrical-current  doesn't it ( it's not  a  permanent-magnet  in the shape of a  Coil is it  )

Yes, the coil does carry electrical current, and the arrows show the direction through the coil.

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2015, 03:14:32 AM »
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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2015, 03:47:45 AM »
@MarkE


Did I ... Oh crap, I must be caught in my own illogical fallacy loop again.
You do keep asserting the appeal to authority fallacy.
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So the "facts" of his own "experience" does not create "evidence" for the extraordinary claims?.  You may want to inform the variable time, wormhole, multiple universe people of your miraculous sense of logic because they won't listen to me. Just give them a ring... hey dudes the facts of your own complete lack of tangible experience does not create evidence for extraordinary claims... I'm sure they will be astounded by your sense of logic even if your not a Vulcan.
If you want to keep playing this game we can.  It is not as though you can't look up the "appeal to authority" logical fallacy.
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What is time if time is variable Mark.. I mean really?, why according to the real experts his device may have created a time warping wormhole to multiple parallel universes in which case decades may have past for Mr.Tewari while your stuck here. Yes Mark, very strange but apparently true so in fact in Mr.Tewari's time his device may be very much un-extraordinary relative to yours here.
LOL if there are wormholes anywhere associated with this machine they aren't through parallel universes.
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You know I enjoy this I do however there is one point I cannot quite reconcile. At the end of the day this application of supposedly superior logic, the fallacy, basically amounts to mental masturbation. I mean sure you may think it feels good Mark however I would point out the obvious fact that the Greek/Roman civilizations that created this logic were an epic failure. The historians generally agree that as these civilizations gained supposed intelligence they would tend to sit around debating everything to death and made little or no real progress. I call them the mass-debater's because they get off on this kind of thing despite the fact they tend to go round and round going nowhere fast which would seem to contradict their beliefs.
LOL, now you're attempting to argue against authority.  If you want to advance Mr. Tewari's claims:  bring reliable evidence that they are true.  Then you'll be doing something that Mr. Tewari hasn't.  He should be very grateful.
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Would you be wiling to bet the farm on what basically amounts to an epic failure?... I'm saying no thank you I think I will pass. So while I do believe in logic I also believe in common sense and I'm not quite ready to plunge down the rabbit hole head first. To each his own.
Forget the rabbit hole.  Accepting extraordinary claims against established elements is a swan dive from a high board into an empty pool.
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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2015, 03:48:47 AM »
No, this is another false assertion and misdirection by you.  Tewari is relying on M hypothesis and not the failed N hypothesis.  MarkE and others like him suffers from indetermination of velocity and acceleration measurement used in the major physical equations which are hidden behind the term of inertial frame creating Petitio Principi fallacy.  The below picture clearly shows that the velocity of the charge must be determined with regard to the source of the magnetic field as is shown in this publication, and not with regard to an arbitrary observer, which belongs to the concept that directly causes action-reaction paradox absurdity characteristic in the concept of N hypothesis. The velocity of the magnetic field is equal to the velocity of its source, i.e. to the velocity of the magnet.  The field moves with its source!

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LOL, the N machine isn't over unity as claimed.

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2015, 04:03:17 AM »
LOL, the N machine isn't over unity as claimed.

I never said it was, as you falsely assert.  The N hypothesis violates the conservation laws, thus the epic failure of the N machine.

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2015, 05:18:30 PM »
Regarding that  Diagram  of  the  device  in  'Reply #49'

The  Reason  why that electrical-wire  would rotate,   is  Exactly  the same reason it  rotates  in  the  Faraday-Motor ,  and in Faraday-Motors  it rotates right around,  and in all the much much simpler versions  .

(  That  device ,  the  Big-Block shaped like a square-ish  horseshoe-magnet,   but the cylinders in the middle joining the  S-Pole to the N-Pole,  the result would be that it's   magnetic-field  would remain inside the  horseshoe-Loop ),  but if not all the  magnetic-field  can get through  that particularly  narrow  connection,  then maybe it's leaking from  that  big  S-Pole to the N-Pole   )

(   How was the above device made,  was it made by the same method as horshoe-magnets,  or did they just glue some bar-magnets together,  because those angles at which they are joined are .........  )

(   Now I can't find for sure how they make  horseshoe-magnets ,  I'm only assuming either by running massive current through it,  or with coils,  or other  )

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    The above makes me wonder,  if there is a  specific science/theories  pertaining to the above case,  of  Either cavities  in  permanent-magnet-loops ,  or  sections where not all the magnetic-field can get through  etc.
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    But this partly reminds me of  'numerous'  reasons why I've always wanted  a  Proper-Donut-Shaped-Magnet(  with the  magnetic-field  running around the circle ),   to be created.

    (   I have a  far-fetched theory,  that without leakage,  that the magnetic-flow constantly flowing in a  Donut-Shaped-Magnet  would( because it's being fed back into itself without leakage)  create more and more energy ,  overunity.   
         This is something that has never happened in magnets before,  because of leakage into the air,  and that leakage may experience some type of  friction  in  air( or even in a vacuum ),  and that  friction would equal energy loss .
             One unusual way to  access  the  magnetic-flow  contained inside  this   Donut-Shaped-Magnet ,   could be  to  shape one  small-sector  of the  ring,  to  be  much-much  narrower  than the rest of the ring,   forcing  some of the  magnetic-field  to leak out and jump  the  cavity ,   this could be what is  occurring  in the  Horse-Shoe-Shaped-Device  above.   )
 
       But,  aside from the  overunity  theory of a   Donut-Shaped-Magnet ,  I also suspect unexpected  results,     if the  Donut was  hollow ( if there was an empty  Tunnel  running right throughout the  circle ),   I think that the magnetic-field  which would normally be contained in the  material  of the  Donut-Shaped-Magnet,  would,   because a type of  equilibrium in the pipe-shaped tunnel,   also flow  eternally in  the empty space of the  Tunnel.

      One way to access the eternal-magnetic-flow  in the above tunnel,  could be to have a slight opening  into  that tunnel,   that opening could either be a  hole,  or  the opening could run right  around the circle of the magnet.

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2015, 07:29:35 PM »
@guest1289,

That's not a horseshoe magnet.  It's a ferromagnetic core, such as iron, to confine the magnetic field between the poles of the magnets.  If the core isn't saturated, then there shouldn't be any leakage of the flux.

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Re: New reactionless motor from India
« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2015, 07:32:59 PM »
The  Reason  why that electrical-wire  would rotate,   is  Exactly  the same reason it  rotates  in  the  Faraday-Motor ,  and in Faraday-Motors  it rotates right around,  and in all the much much simpler versions

In  the  device you posted,    I see a wire carrying  DC  current,   rotating  around  one or  two  cylinder magnets ,  the  same  as a faraday-motor

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« Reply #56 on: August 18, 2015, 07:42:05 PM »
The  Reason  why that electrical-wire  would rotate,   is  Exactly  the same reason it  rotates  in  the  Faraday-Motor ,  and in Faraday-Motors  it rotates right around,  and in all the much much simpler versions

In  the  device you posted,    I see a wire carrying  DC  current,   rotating  around  one or  two  cylinder magnets ,  the  same  as a faraday-motor

Yes, it's similar in concept to a Faraday motor.  In a conventional Faraday motor, the field isn't confined and this allows portions of the conductor to be cut twice by the field in opposite directions.  By confining the field, the conductor is only cut once.  This makes it much more efficient.  Also, this allows for a brushless system (in theory) in the correct configuration.  The brushes are a source for huge losses.

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« Reply #57 on: August 18, 2015, 07:59:26 PM »
The  little  rod  labelled  B,  I assume that is not the  piece  emitting  the  electromagnetic field,  causing the  rotation.

The  reason I'm interested in this,  is because you said no one has ever found a design to achieve full rotation,  by using this method,   I'm seeing one potential soution............

  -  One overly simple solution I could see,  is simply a wire carrying Dc current,  causing a  Donut-Shaped  magnet,  to spin on an axle  (  this  Donut could have a normal magnetic-field,  not one running around the circle  )

   -  But I can also think of one( or two ) other solutions

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« Reply #58 on: August 18, 2015, 08:55:44 PM »
The  little  rod  labelled  B,  I assume that is not the  piece  emitting  the  electromagnetic field,  causing the  rotation.

The  reason I'm interested in this,  is because you said no one has ever found a design to achieve full rotation,  by using this method,   I'm seeing one potential soution............

  -  One overly simple solution I could see,  is simply a wire carrying Dc current,  causing a  Donut-Shaped  magnet,  to spin on an axle  (  this  Donut could have a normal magnetic-field,  not one running around the circle  )

   -  But I can also think of one( or two ) other solutions

Only part CAB of electric circuit is exposed to the confined magnetic field, but only part AB on a rod is able to produce angular force momentum of a rigid electric contour. Contour is able to perform limited rotation around CA axle. When the contour is fixed, then C permanent magnet should attempt to rotate in contra direction in regards with reaction of probe to magnet. This should be an ultimate proof that M hypothesis is the valid one and that Faraday failed because he did not use a confined magnetic field.  <---- this description is mostly a copy and paste from the below publication.

Here's a publication on DC machines within M hypotheses that describes it detail.  Also, have a look at the publication titled, "N or M Hypothesis - Final Test", for additional information.  You'll find other proposed solutions, such as yours, within those publications which I think you'll find interesting.

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« Reply #59 on: August 18, 2015, 09:14:55 PM »
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I think I'll paste  what I have just designed ( invented )  into a  provisional-patent-application  I was going  to send of for something else(  companies often put numerous  inventions  into  individual  provisional( called utility applications in other countries ) patent applications,  to save money,  they're not stupid  )

At a glance,  I can't seem to find something  identical to what I have designed,  in  the  publications you have  provided( it might be there though ),   but,   I just can't be the first person to have thought of it.
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My  initial design  is simply a wire carrying Dc current,  causing a  Donut-Shaped  magnet,  to spin on an axle  (  this  Donut could have a normal magnetic-field,  not one running around the circle,  so it's easy to make  ) .
(  Of course that  wire should probably be replaced with either a coil ,  or something similar to multiply the power  )
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